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#65301
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Happy frelling birthday wintery:

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Happy frelling birthday wintery:

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Aeryn?



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Aeryn?


Nah dude Morrigan. :P

Wintery will get it though.

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I love those episodes :wub:

 

Aeryn: "It's not you, it's me. I don't like you."



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Nah dude Morrigan. :P

Wintery will get it though.

 

Nah dude Morrigan?  :huh:



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Nah dude Morrigan? :huh:


That's Claudia Black, Morrigan's VA.

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I love those episodes :wub:

Aeryn: "It's not you, it's me. I don't like you."


Man I haven't seen Farscape in ages.

I do remember her getting pissed at Crichton though.

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What do you guys think of my info graphic so far? Any feedback would be great - good or bad.  :)


It's not bad. Timeline is always nice. As much as I would quibble with specific wording and images in another context (images of modern France, Syria, and Israel...mmm), that's not so important now.

I saw the website where you got your information, and it's...interesting. I have to say that I don't think that it weaves the information into a semi-coherent narrative. You start with the Selcuk victory at Manzikert in 1071, which is an event of Byzantine history, but then shift to the Levant, where the Crusades actually took place...which didn't belong to the Byzantines at the time. So why talk about Manzikert? It makes sense for a story about the Byzantine civil wars and the Selcuk conquest of Anatolia, but it's an unnecessary distraction if all you're discussing is the Crusades.

I would instead cut out Manzikert and frame the first part of the timeline in terms of the creation of the Great Selcuk Empire, which swept all before it in the Middle East in the 1070s and 1080s before fragmenting into a mosaic of beyliks and successor states. Then insert the line about the atrocities against pilgrims, then do your linear narrative on the course of the Crusade itself. In that linear narrative, you can loop back to the Selcuk bit earlier on, and point out that the reason the First Crusade was so successful was because the Selcuk Empire broke up into a bunch of sh*tty little groups that all hated each other and wouldn't band together to fight an invader.

I'm also going to echo the importance of properly sourcing your information. But a lot of the stuff about sourcing depends on what the person assigning the project says. If you're doing a graduate seminar on the Crusades, the sort of sources you can use would differ quite wildly from the sources you might use for a 100-level design course. It's important to clear this stuff with your instructor so you know if you can cite random websites, Wikipedia, popular history books, academic monographs, scholarly journals, or period primaries only. Offhand, I would say that the website you're using right now is probably the lowest tier of source. It's got some good information, but there are gaps and inaccuracies and little ability to verify any of it. Wikipedia is the next one up, along with other online encyclopedias; Wikipedia is somewhat stigmatized for many instructors but it's really about as good as any other encyclopedia (which is to say, not incredibly good for anything in-depth).

(I am a little sad you didn't decide to use any of the sources I suggested for your infographic a few weeks ago, but if you've got less than a week...well...)
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#65309
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Happy Birthday, Wintery. May good food and drink resonate everywhere.

Lysindra and Sera had "the talk"...she decided not to sleep with her...pleasure delayer.
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Okay I'm off to see the doctor, an appointment I made for my birthday because I have the worst sense of timing ever :wizard:


Alles Gute!
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#65311
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That's Claudia Black, Morrigan's VA.

 

Oh. I thought that was some insulting compliment or something at me.  :lol: Not that that would be so bad.  ^_^



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lol I feel you Serza 

 

Could be worse. Try having a jack ass instructor tell you to pull a sink off a wall and replace it perfectly your first day in trade with him breathing down your neck and calling you stupid the entire time because "you are doing it wrong." Only to have him pull down the sink when you finally get because his measurements where wrong so you have to redo it for the 4th time and redo his measurements to ensure the new sink is at the proper height.  That kind of crap was my day to day for three years. 

 

Well, I'm walking through a park, then. I admit it.

 

If you can't demonstrate the provenance of your information, how can anyone else have any clue as to its accuracy? You could just be making it up, or you could be regurgitating inaccuracies from something that someone else has just made up. Citations are key to academic integrity. It's not about the whims of any one lecturer you may have at university, it's about producing academically rigorous work that can be checked.

 

"I know it because I have personal experience" isn't going to hold water at any academic institution worth its salt. That's not how we build up a reliable knowledge base, because anyone could say that when actually they have no clue.

 

Peer review is one of the cornerstones of modern academia. Have you really not heard of it?

 

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Peer_review

 

I have heard of it, but... Meh. Never really occured to me that I could use this.

 

 

Outta likes. Have an imaginary one!

 

 

"Sera thread, page 2612: topics"

  • song
  • exam
  • Anatolia infographic
  • information source discussion
  • birthday
  • imbued at a quantum level
  • Sera wants you just the way you are
  • fish cannibalism

 

 

Yeah, sounds about right.

 

Alles Gute!

 

Nichts...?

 

I mean, an appointment on your b-day? Solid load of bad luck.



#65313
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Nichts...?
 
I mean, an appointment on your b-day? Solid load of bad luck.


Meh. If it's a cleaning, yay teeth are super clean! If it's a procedure, yay now there's no huge issue with my teeth! More importantly, yay birthday!

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You guise.

 

Link.

 

 

 

Opinions? Yay or nay?


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Meh. If it's a cleaning, yay teeth are super clean! If it's a procedure, yay now there's no huge issue with my teeth! More importantly, yay birthday!

 

Alright, alright, you win...

 

You guise.

 

Link.

 

 

 

Opinions? Yay or nay?

 

Sort of...?



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-snip-

(I am a little sad you didn't decide to use any of the sources I suggested for your infographic a few weeks ago, but if you've got less than a week...well...)

 

I'm sorry Eirene. I've been so caught up with deadlines at the moment that I actually forgot most of those sources.  :(

 

My tutor has said that he isn't grading it on the accuracy of it. Everyone in my group has gotten to do it on any subject they want. One person is doing it on zombie films or something. Another is doing it on superheroes (Something like 40,000 superheroes and only 10,000 are females etc.) If we were based on accuracy, he would be bogged down to the point we wouldn't get anything done. All he's looking for is a good info graphic (after all, I am doing graphics) so yes, the information should be accurate if possible but it's by no means a priority.

 

Also, I'm not trying to show any reasons for why things happened or anything. It's just a brief outline of the crusade for people who don't know much about it.

 

Thank you though for having a look.  ^_^



#65317
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You guise.

 

Link.

 

 

 

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Kinda...

 

The teeth are pretty close. Bangs right. I could see her being a casting consideration certainly.



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People really hate Leliana on this board man. Chile every week there is a topic that starts off well intentioned and then the hate just flourishes. That seems to be a thing Sera has in common with her.

I never expect everyone to like a character that I do. The reasoning though is what i question...because why is it almost always some whiny dude bro? Question that. Seriously. While you're giving your deep and existential character analysis, question THAT.

#65319
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You guise.

 

Link.

 

 

 

Opinions? Yay or nay?

 

Looks like Sera. Is that the person BioWare based her on? Looks a lot like it.



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Look at more pics here, some are very close to Sera.



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Kinda...

 

The teeth are pretty close. Bangs right. I could see her being a casting consideration certainly.

 

Voice, though.

Part of what makes Sera Sera is her voice.

 

Without her voice, bah. Who cares. I'm pretty sure they could put enough make-up on Robyn Addison to maker HER look somewhat close, and BAM, you've Sera's voice in.



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Look at more pics here, some are very close to Sera.

 

Some are and in others she looks a little younger than I'd guess Sera to be but then not knowing much about her I may be looking at older pictures from earlier in her career. 



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People really hate Leliana on this board man. Chile every week there is a topic that starts off well intentioned and then the hate just flourishes. That seems to be a thing Sera has in common with her.
I never expect everyone to like a character that I do. The reasoning though is what i question...because why is it almost always some whiny dude bro? Question that. Seriously. While you're giving your deep and existential character analysis, question THAT.

haters gonna hate...

#65324
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Look at more pics here, some are very close to Sera.

 

Definitely. That is Sera. Everything about her face just matches Sera almost perfectly.



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Voice, though.

Part of what makes Sera Sera is her voice.

 

Without her voice, bah. Who cares. I'm pretty sure they could put enough make-up on Robyn Addison to maker HER look somewhat close, and BAM, you've Sera's voice in.

 

I have no idea of her voice since I have no idea of who she really is. However I did note that the language in the link Orchid sent is Eastern European so if she is from that region of the world then it is not likely she could pull off the voice.