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Huh interesting! I'd noticed Cassandra's left-handedness but not Leliana's right-handedness! Clever BioWare and a cool twist!

Meaningful too. Cassandra is rather awkward socially, which is sometimes referred to as being 'gauche', the French word for left, but she's also 'righteous'.

The Latin word for left is 'sinistro' which of course gave us 'sinister'. Leliana is a spy and an assasin. She's also an agile rogue. The Latin word for 'right' is 'dextro', which led to 'dexterity' through French.

 

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Glad to hear they travel a lot! Family in Belgium? That's pretty cool! My Mom does a bit of traveling too and since retiring two years ago has gone to Turkey and now Spain next month and France in the fall. My Dad is retired from Social Work and he likes to travel a lot. He's been to Vietnam, Myanmar, Greece and Italy in the past few years.

Yeah. I've mentioned it before I think, but my granddad landed at D-Day, and later met my grandma when stationed in Antwerp. The language ability comes from her, at least on my dad's side of the family. My mum has a brother with a French degree who does a similar job to Cat, teaching English to adults. He married a French woman and they live in Lille near the border with Belgium, so my parents often visit them before heading to Antwerp.



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Meaningful too. Cassandra is rather awkward socially, which is sometimes referred to as being 'gauche', the French word for left, but she's also 'righteous'.
The Latin word for left is 'sinistro' which of course gave us 'sinister'. Leliana is a spy and an assasin. She's also an agile rogue. The Latin word for 'right' is 'dextro', which led to 'dexterity' through French.
 
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hehe another XD

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Meaningful too. Cassandra is rather awkward socially, which is sometimes referred to as being 'gauche', the French word for left, but she's also 'righteous'.

The Latin word for left is 'sinistro' which of course gave us 'sinister'. Leliana is a spy and an assasin. She's also an agile rogue. The Latin word for 'right' is 'dextro', which led to 'dexterity' through French.

 

Words are the best toys!

I always thought that Dexter was a bit sinister. Secret serial killers... ;)



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I always thought that Dexter was a bit sinister. Secret serial killers... ;)

never saw it any good

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Happy birthday Daz.

 

He may possibly be slightly less badass...

 

That could be even more entertaining though.

 

Admittedly I don't rank Shep that high on the list of greatest badarses but anyway.



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never saw it any good

I enjoyed the first few seasons, but haven't got round to watching it all yet. So much to do, not enough time...



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I always thought that Dexter was a bit sinister. Secret serial killers... ;)

That reminds me: English finger names: Index finger, middle finger, ring finger, pinky... (talking about hands makes me think of fingers! Shock!)

 

In French they are: Le pouce (thumb), l'index, le majeur, l'annulaire and l'auriculaire.

 

That last one is interesting. The prefix 'auri' refers to the ears. That finger was named because it's the one you use to pick your ears. Neat huh?

 

*Geek mode at full steam*


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Meaningful too. Cassandra is rather awkward socially, which is sometimes referred to as being 'gauche', the French word for left, but she's also 'righteous'.

The Latin word for left is 'sinistro' which of course gave us 'sinister'. Leliana is a spy and an assasin. She's also an agile rogue. The Latin word for 'right' is 'dextro', which led to 'dexterity' through French.

 

Words are the best toys!

 

Wow! That's astonishing and quite clever of them! I never cease to be amazed at the clever details BioWare places in the game. Words are the best toys indeed! More and more I realize why I love this series so much. The care and attention to detail with the characters makes it very rewarding to play these games. 



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Wow! That's astonishing and quite clever of them! I never cease to be amazed at the clever details BioWare places in the game. Words are the best toys indeed! More and more I realize why I love this series so much. The care and attention to detail with the characters makes it very rewarding to play these games. 

Sometimes I wonder how much of it is intentional... I've seen it happen with some books, tv series, comics, etc. that a fan spotted something that the writer had not intended/considered, but then they like it and integrate it. 

 

You know that Batman villain, Mr. Freeze? He's been around since the beginning. That tragic backstory about his wife? From Batman and Robin. Seriously.


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Yeah. I've mentioned it before I think, but my granddad landed at D-Day, and later met my grandma when stationed in Antwerp. The language ability comes from her, at least on my dad's side of the family. My mum has a brother with a French degree who does a similar job to Cat, teaching English to adults. He married a French woman and they live in Lille near the border with Belgium, so my parents often visit them before heading to Antwerp.

 

Our grandfathers met their wives in service then. My grandfather met my grandmother while stationed in the UK during the war. She later became a novelist and he worked for the US government as a lawyer. She spoke and read in many languages and I wish I had inherited an nth of that ability but alas. Lille is a great town although it's been many years since I last visited it. 


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Sometimes I wonder how much of it is intentional... I've seen it happen with some books, tv series, comics, etc. that a fan spotted something that the writer had not intended/considered, but then they like it and integrate it. 

 

You know that Batman villain, Mr. Freeze? He's been around since the beginning. That tragic backstory about his wife? From Batman and Robin. Seriously.

 

I'd love to see them questioned about it. If it's not intentional then it is a pretty interesting set of coincidences and something for a clever writer like yourself to make use of. :)

 

What's the Mr. Freeze connection? I am familiar with his backstory but is there a BioWare tie in or did it influence them?



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I've never talked to my sister in detail about her education, but I don't get the impression that she had a good time. I think she was just put into the bottom group and left to rot, basically... She certainly left school as soon as she was able. When you talk to her, though, she's clearly intelligent and perceptive in many ways. She's way better with her finances than me, for example, and I have two maths A-Levels. I think we're better these days at catching kids with these problems and giving them the help that they need, but sadly it's too late for people like my sister. :(

 

I can relate to that. While I can't remember what one my L.D. is called. I know I was diagnosed with Dyscalculia. It pretty much effects a persons ability to do math and can be really hard to deal with. You confuse math symbols such as +,- and x, transpose number and a lot of times out right omit numbers. Much like your sister I was tossed into the "leg up" classes for most of my years in school. When I was in elementary and middle school I acted out a lot. They figured I had ADHD and quickly starting stuffing ritalin down my throat, it ended up having some really bad effects on me. Little did they know I was acting out because I was sick of being stuck in a leg up class and I was also sick of people at school treating me like I was stupid. Thankfully I had some good friends and a mother who where willing to with me. Because if it was not for them. I would have stopped going to school all together towards the tell end off middle school. 


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That reminds me: English finger names: Index finger, middle finger, ring finger, pinky... (talking about hands makes me think of fingers! Shock!)

 

In French they are: Le pouce (thumb), l'index, le majeur, l'annulaire and l'auriculaire.

 

That last one is interesting. The prefix 'auri' refers to the ears. That finger was named because it's the one you use to pick your ears. Neat huh?

 

*Geek mode at full steam*

Nice!

 

I'd call that "little finger". "Pinky finger" is what Americans call it.

 

http://en.wikipedia....i/Little_finger

 

Pinkie in Scotland too, apparently.



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I'd love to see them questioned about it. If it's not intentional then it is a pretty interesting set of coincidences and something for a clever writer like yourself to make use of. :)

 

What's the Mr. Freeze connection? I am familiar with his backstory but is there a BioWare tie in or did it influence them?

Oh no, no ties to Bioware. I was using it as an example of the original creator adopting something from someone else's interpretation. That element is now part of the official version.

 

There are things that authors put in their stories and they don't always realize the implications it might have. J.K. Rowling managed to offend quite a few people with a certain plot device concerning the background of the bad guy.



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Nice!
 
I'd call that "little finger". "Pinky finger" is what Americans call it.
 
http://en.wikipedia....i/Little_finger
 
Pinkie in Scotland too, apparently.

i call it my phalanx oddly

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There are things that authors put in their stories and they don't always realize the implications it might have.


Dragon Age Exhibit A: None of the writers thought about how the Calling for lady Wardens works before fans pointed out that they are basically providing the darkspawn with free broodmothers.

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i call it my phalanx oddly

Well technically your pinky has three of them.



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Oh no, no ties to Bioware. I was using it as an example of the original creator adopting something from someone else's interpretation. That element is now part of the official version.

 

There are things that authors put in their stories and they don't always realize the implications it might have. J.K. Rowling managed to offend quite a few people with a certain plot device concerning the background of the bad guyé

 

Ah ok! I had not realized that Freeze's origin story was fan influenced! I love Batman so I'll have to search on that and see how that happened. 

 

So something about Voldemort caused controversy? Oh do fill me in! I think that has to be a tricky thing in writing. We have so many blinders sometimes to things that may not be our own situation, point of view, life experience etc that I imagine it must be hard to gauge, sometimes, what might hurt someone out there who doesn't know the writer's true intention. 



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Dragon Age Exhibit A: None of the writers thought about how the Calling for lady Wardens works before fans pointed out that they are basically providing the darkspawn with free broodmothers.

well the goal during the calling is ritual suicide so i think that prevents it. Or maybe the joining prevents that i guess

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Dragon Age Exhibit A: None of the writers thought about how the Calling for lady Wardens works before fans pointed out that they are basically providing the darkspawn with free broodmothers.

Mmh. I remember that one. Bioware is good at character writing, but world building...



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Dragon Age Exhibit A: None of the writers thought about how the Calling for lady Wardens works before fans pointed out that they are basically providing the darkspawn with free broodmothers.

  Kind of funny how bioware didn't think about that when they wrote about the wardens and their connection to drak spawn. 

 
 It would also explain why Dark Spawn can always field such massive armies.


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Well technically your pinky has three of them.

those lines on my hand? when i was a kid my teacher forbade me from callin it my pinky w/o a good reason

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i call it my phalanx oddly

 

Er, why?

 

 

Dragon Age Exhibit A: None of the writers thought about how the Calling for lady Wardens works before fans pointed out that they are basically providing the darkspawn with free broodmothers.

 

See, I always assumed that Grey Wardenification neutralised the potential for becoming a broodmother, otherwise the Wardens were bloody stupid.

 

The other implication is that dwarves should have no women in their fighting forces, at all.