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[The Elder King]

Who else has Lukas done? I am not familiar with his work.

Aveline and Carver, recently.

[GVulture]

Aveline and Carver, recently.

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.

[Pajuschka]

Who else has Lukas done? I am not familiar with his work.

 

Aveline, I think.

[Former_Fiend]

....I have very mixed feelings about that.

 

Carver, I liked.Was certainly a very flawed character, but I got him. Got the desire to get out of someone elses shadow, become his own man, and I felt he really ations once he joined the Wardens.

 

Aveline, I hated. I wanted to like her going into the game, I really did. But she was so judgmental, in everyone's business telling them how to live their lives. I couldn't stand her. Really, thus far she's the only DA companion I've out and out completely disliked.

[whogotsalami]

An elvish rogue who also happens to be a potential LI to my male human rogue? Interesting, interesting...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

....I have very mixed feelings about that.

 

Carver, I liked.Was certainly a very flawed character, but I got him. Got the desire to get out of someone elses shadow, become his own man, and I felt he really ations once he joined the Wardens.

 

Aveline, I hated. I wanted to like her going into the game, I really did. But she was so judgmental, in everyone's business telling them how to live their lives. I couldn't stand her. Really, thus far she's the only DA companion I've out and out completely disliked.

I'm the opposite. I loved Aveline and despised Carver.

[Lukas Kristjanson]

Carver, I liked... Aveline, I hated.

I'm the opposite. I loved Aveline and despised Carver.

Mission accomplished.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

And I liked them both.

[The Elder King]

Mission accomplished.

Hi Lukas. I want to say that I really liked you work in the past, and I'm eager to see more of Sera and other characters you might've written .

[Nefla]

And I liked them both.

Me too

As for elf girl, I just hope I can give her a hat or helmet at all times because those 3 stooges bangs in the concept art are atrocious.

[JeffZero]

Mission accomplished.

 

Aveline I loved. Carver I've yet to experience. I'll get back to ya on that... but I know what you mean, divisive can be very good.

[Ispan]

Me too

As for elf girl, I just hope I can give her a hat or helmet at all times because those 3 stooges bangs in the concept art are atrocious.

 

I somehow miss a ton of art pieces, could you link the one you're talking about?

 

Edit:  Oh, the war room?  I didn't see the 3 stooginess until now.

 

Edit edit: I kinda thought she just had a low hairline

 

Maybe they'll look more like this in game!

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Modifié par Ispan, 28 mars 2014 - 10:44 .

[Nefla]

I somehow miss a ton of art pieces, could you link the one you're talking about?
 
Edit:  Oh, the war room?  I didn't see the 3 stooginess until now.
 
Edit edit: I kinda thought she just had a low hairline
 
Maybe they'll look more like this in game!

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I hope so, the hair you linked is stylish. The art has bangs that are too thick, blunt, and short. This is a problem almost every DA hairstyle with bangs has had, and the few exceptions are either side bangs or too LONG, thick, and blunt.

[GVulture]

Mission accomplished.

I always loved Aveline, Carver took me me awhile to warm up to him. Adore him now.

That said, not being able to romance Aveline is one of my great gaming regrets.

[wright1978]

I think Carver is a a fabulous character & liked Aveline too

[mordy_was_here]

Her hair reminds me of Yolandi Visser. I assumed that was what they were going for. Not usually my thing, but maybe it'll fit her personality.

 

http://thematerialsl...ndi-visser_.jpg

[ShadowLordXII]

Mission accomplished.

 

So you guys intentionally create divisive characters for the sake of getting fans to argue with each other?

 

My bad, I don't want to make it sound like I'm criticizing your character writing which remains strong. But, it seems odd that this is a priority apart from merely making a well-written strong character and letting the audience decide if they like/hate the character without intentionally baiting people. It just seems like the former would muddle the latter.

[JeffZero]

I don't feel like that was being said at all. O_o Creating divisive characters doesn't have to happen because writers want fans at one-another's throats.

The throat-atting happens on its own, in practically every franchise.

[Maria Caliban]

So you guys intentionally create divisive characters for the sake of getting fans to argue with each other?
 
My bad, I don't want to make it sound like I'm criticizing your character writing which remains strong. But, it seems odd that this is a priority apart from merely making a well-written strong character and letting the audience decide if they like/hate the character without intentionally baiting people. It just seems like the former would muddle the latter.

Creating well-written, strong characters who are different from one another is the same as creating divisive characters.

[Artemis Leonhart]

They try to make characters that are well written and interesting enough that people either love them or hate them. If the reaction to a character they write is a "meh" as opposed to an "I love/hate X", then that would be considered a failure, because that character wasn't interesting enough to provoke a player's strong reaction in one way or another.
To this day, I still have to meet a Bioware character that I don't care about to the point of thinking "oh, character X? Meh, I don't care about him/her/it".

[ShadowLordXII]

Creating well-written, strong characters who are different from one another is the same as creating divisive characters.

 

Not necessarily. If the intention is to make a good character and the divisiveness comes afterward from fan reaction without any baiting from the creators then great (example: Loghain). But if the character is more intended to be divisive for the sake of being divisive rather than for the sake of being a good character, then it makes them less strong because the writer's intent becomes obvious and this interferes with immersion (example: possibly Anders)

[Former_Fiend]

I suppose I shouldn't really be worried. Sera seems to be a very different character to Aveline; don't see any reasons why the traits that made me hate her will be repeated.

 

If anything, the "brat" part of her description and knowing who wrote her actually makes me think she'll be a more likable, female version of Carver; Carver was always trying to prove something to the world and himself by becoming his own man; if she's the lead of her own network of theives and spies, Sera's already done that.Will be interesting to see where that arc goes from there.

[Maria Caliban]

If the reaction to a character they write is a "meh" as opposed to an "I love/hate X", then that would be considered a failure, because that character wasn't interesting enough to provoke a player's strong reaction in one way or another.

While I can't comment on the likelihood of this being something the writers believe, I can say that it's a rather questionable criteria for a number of reasons.

For one thing, every major character will be found wonderful, horrible, or boring by someone.

Kaiden, for example, lasted in my ME 1 team until I got Liara and then gathered dustbunnies on the ship. He was in my ME 3 playthrough, but I can't recall what he did and while I think he ended up on the ship, I am unsure. Yet many people love Kaiden and many people hate him.

If you mean that 'many people' have to love or hate them, then Sten and Aveline would be failure characters. They don't half the face reaction as the other companions get. I'd still say they improve the game though and are good characters in their own right, even if they don't inspire as much intensity as Morrigan or Anders.
 

Not necessarily. If the intention is to make a good character and the divisiveness comes afterward from fan reaction without any baiting from the creators then great (example: Loghain). But if the character is more intended to be divisive for the sake of being divisive rather than for the sake of being a good character, then it makes them less strong because the writer's intent becomes obvious and this interferes with immersion (example: possibly Anders)

Writer intent means nothing.

[Xilizhra]

They try to make characters that are well written and interesting enough that people either love them or hate them. If the reaction to a character they write is a "meh" as opposed to an "I love/hate X", then that would be considered a failure, because that character wasn't interesting enough to provoke a player's strong reaction in one way or another.
To this day, I still have to meet a Bioware character that I don't care about to the point of thinking "oh, character X? Meh, I don't care about him/her/it".

I have before, such as Fenris. I didn't like him, but the fact that he did nothing on his own to harm mages greatly blunted feelings of actual dislike into just not really wanting to spend time with him.

[Nefla]

Her hair reminds me of Yolandi Visser. I assumed that was what they were going for. Not usually my thing, but maybe it'll fit her personality.

 

http://thematerialsl...ndi-visser_.jpg

Yes...it's horrible. If that's not what the CC hairstyles look like (as it has been in the past *shudder*) I'll be relieved but I still want to give her some of Vivienne's spare hats...or even a hollowed out melon would be an improvement >_<