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[Grieving Natashina]

Yet another song that reminded me of Sera, when she's in a happy mood:

 

[LeicsFox]

she seems fun and interesting, but human hating could really get on my inquisitors nerves (as it will get on mine) 

[Illyria]

she seems fun and interesting, but human hating could really get on my inquisitors nerves (as it will get on mine) 

 

I've not heard anything about her being human hating.  Are you thinking of the right character?

[LeicsFox]

I've just seen it mentioned a couple of times on the forums

[Illyria]

I've just seen it mentioned a couple of times on the forums

 

It could just be speculation.  We honestly don't know all that much about Sera, other than she's a rogue, she doesn't like doing things for the 'greater good' (which means I assume she wouldn't approve of killing a village to save a city, rather than not liking good actions), she doesn't like Cole, she's a member of the Friends of Red Jenny and she's gay.

[LeicsFox]

hmmm perhaps people are just drawing conclusions from small amounts of info, oh well, either way rogues are always welcome.

[tmp7704]

That makes me feel a bit better, but I'm still unsure.

What makes me feel icky about the whole thing is, it just reinforces the old "if the woman tells you no ignore what she says she wants and just keep battering her. Do it long enough and she's bound to freak out see your dedication and give in."

Not to mention at that point Shepard is pretty much like a blimp already, really doesn't need any more smoke blown up his/her arse.

[Vapaa]

What makes me feel icky about the whole thing is, it just reinforces the old "if the woman tells you no ignore what she says she wants and just keep battering her. Do it long enough and she's bound to freak out see your dedication and give in."

 

In Samara's case she is interested if you pursue her, she just backs down because she fears romance would conflict with her justicar duty.

[tmp7704]

You don't have to push yourself on Jack. She already wants sex, but if you just talk to her, that's the respectful route. Why is that suddenly the bad thing too? What does anyone recommend? Not even talking to her at all?

Err, I was under impression the discussion was about Samara, not Jack.

Jack is the whole other "walking bag of mental issues that Dr.Shepard has the best cure for, his penis", that's best left at that.

[tmp7704]

In Samara's case she is interested if you pursue her, she just backs down because she fears romance would conflict with her justicar duty.

She does the usual "Oh Shepard you SO FASCINATING" routine everyone in that sad series seems to be contractually bound to, but ultimately tells you that no, she chooses something else above your character.

So of course what Shepard does in the DLC is to ignore that and bring this up yet again. As a goddamn Paragon interrupt, of all things. And when she pushes him away then? Of course that just means he needs to grab her and pull her back. Remember, batter until they give in. And then of course she does. ._.

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

If Varric is not an LI though I'm sure Natashina expected this from me Sera is going to be my LI first play through. I really want to do a dwarf as my first play through, probably a warrior but since last night I thought of a white haired elf Mage with Sera . But I love my dwarfs so I will probably end up being a dwarf anyway haha

[Vapaa]

She does the usual "Oh Shepard you SO FASCINATING" routine everyone in that sad series seems to be contractually bound to, but ultimately tells you that no, she chooses something else above your character.

So of course what Shepard does in the DLC is to ignore that and bring this up yet again. As a goddamn Paragon interrupt, of all things. And when she pushes him away then? Of course that just means he needs to grab her and pull her back. Remember, batter until they give in. And then of course she does. ._.

 

Shepard acts on an already existing and pretty intense sexual tension, built between two person attracted to each other and aware of this.

 

Nothing like forcing one's way onto someone who's not interested.

[tmp7704]

Shepard acts on an already existing and pretty intense sexual tension, built between two person attracted to each other and aware of this.
 
Nothing like forcing one's way onto someone who's not interested.

It is forcing one's way onto someone who's told him they chose not to have relationship with him, just the same. At the end of the day Shepard acts on presumption he knows better what Samara wants than she herself does (or "merely" favours what he wants over her decision) and ignores her choice in that regard.

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

I've never tried any of this. I kept hearing that Samara's romance arc improved in ME3. I guess not?

I always try to romance Samara because she's one of my favorite characters. I know how it ends, but I do like her:

That being said, before the Citadel DLC all you get in ME3 is her holding your hands and telling you to spend your time with those you care about

And after the Citadel DLC you have the chance to initiate a kiss where afterwards she requests you just hold her, and she sounds really emotional .

[tmp7704]

Someone mentioned Jack above, so I chimed in.
 
I don't think Jack has any worse mental issues than my own Shepard. If you go in with that assumption - that she's crazy and needs to be fixed - then of course you'll judge everything in that light. No one ever seems to consider that there are people who like her.

Jack is from get-go portrayed as psychopathic murderer with no respect for life, one that needs to be kept locked under maximum security, Hannibal Lecter style. That she's crazy isn't just "assumption" but what the game intends to make you think. In contrast even the most renegade Shepard supposedly keeps acting with benefit of others in mind, and in this sense these two are nothing alike as far as mental states go.

And yes, some people like Jack. Some people like Lecter, too. It doesn't make either of these two any less crazy.

[The Elder King]

I've just seen it mentioned a couple of times on the forums

It's a speculation. We know that she won't like (probably) nobles much, but they didn't say anything about humans in general.
If anything, the fact that she's a member of the FoRJ (which has humans) and that seem seems to care about poor people lead me to think she doesn't care about races, but social condition and attitude.

[Xilizhra]

It's a speculation. We know that she won't like (probably) nobles much, but they didn't say anything about humans in general.
If anything, the fact that she's a member of the FoRJ (which has humans) and that seem seems to care about poor people lead me to think she doesn't care about races, but social condition and attitude.

Which would be unfortunate, because having an elf who gives a damn about elves, who's not Merrill, would be a nice change.

[The Elder King]

Which would be unfortunate, because having an elf who gives a damn about elves, who's not Merrill, would be a nice change.

True, both Solas and Sera doesn't seem interested specifically on elves. Though I'm fine with Sera caring about poor people in general.

[Xilizhra]

True, both Solas and Sera doesn't seem interested specifically on elves. Though I'm fine with Sera caring about poor people in general.

I'm less so, unless they do give her enough elf-related dialogue. They pulled the same crap with Zevran and Fenris.

[The Elder King]

I'm less so, unless they do give her enough elf-related dialogue. They pulled the same crap with Zevran and Fenris.

I'd like her to have dialogues about elves, but I don't understand why it should be 'crap'. All those characters aren't culturally elven. Why should the talk a lot about elves and elven culture?

[Xilizhra]

I'd like her to have dialogues about elves, but I don't understand why it should be 'crap'. All those characters aren't culturally elven. Why should the talk a lot about elves and elven culture?

Because Bioware seems to want to exclude outright those who may come from an elven culture (and Fenris does, or at least the mostly-elven Tevinter slave community) by making so many elves who are "exceptions" in that regard.