So, who here has hopes of Sera... maybe maturing some in later DLC?
I doubt you'll see it in a DLC as those would be set in the time of the present game or shortly after. However I could see her returning in a later game, perhaps DA 4, and showing signs of having been affected by her time in the Inquisition. Sera is pretty young after all.
But will we ever see it?
Then any hope of my ever romancing Sera is probably squashed.
I will continue to maintain that lesbians were horribly shafted in this... game that I no longer even really like.
Yes, we will. Pretty much everyone who likes Sera, wants to see her develop as a person. Everyone else, wants her to change her attitude (or become straight but that's neither here or there) so the only way BioWare can please both groups is by slowly changing her outlook on the world, with the use of other characters, her friends and accomplices. We will see it, whether it is so openly done with use of cutscenes or through the use banter, she will change, just like every other character.
Then any hope of my ever romancing Sera is probably squashed.
Well, I mean they could flesh out her character more, it just wouldn't be changing over time. Or they could change her character and it wouldn't make a lot of sense, but maybe it'd be better? Or I'm wrong, that can also happen.
But yes, I wouldn't expect her to turn around. Unless the conspiracy theories are all right and Wolf Hunt DLC reveals she is actually a goddess with memory loss.
game that I no longer even really like.
Because of more than Sera?
then never come to my place..for I never go to yours . Super clean , everything neat and in its place...drive me nuts
no i dont lobotomize em
fine...ya stay Dalai-Lama....like 
I go..and make him Tranquil !
Yes, we will. Pretty much everyone who likes Sera, wants to see her develop as a person. Everyone else, wants her to change her attitude (or become straight but that's neither here or there) so the only way BioWare can please both groups is by slowly changing her outlook on the world, with the use of other characters, her friends and accomplices. We will see it, whether it is so openly done with use of cutscenes or through the use banter, she will change, just like every other character.
Well and good, but I might need to have it retroactively affect her actions in the main game, because they can be pretty deplorable.
Because of more than Sera?
Sera's a significant part of it, but more than Sera, yes. I hate the open world design, I hate the fact that hardly any zone is connected to the main plot, I hate the removed camera angle in conversations that's quite symbolic of individual people and interactions between them mattering less, I hate that Bioware sacrificed their core skill to schmooze up the Skyrim fans... and a fair bit more besides.
you're describing my mother, not me. i am a clean person, yes. but my home is comfortable not some pristine museum where nothing can be touched. also, i was raised to believe that your home speaks about other areas of your life too. if i was attempting to date a woman and her home wasn't clean, i would question what else isn't, especially regarding matters of intimacy. it is big deal for me but i don't expect anyone to clean exactly like i do.
well my mother was a controle freak in every area...
I do clean..I just dont go nuts if there a spot missed....
and I do Like my mess...lol I'm confortable and hate wide open space . clutter is Good .
So, who here has hopes of Sera... maybe maturing some in later DLC?
She has potential to grow, and it would make sense for her to.
Oh, and welcome back!
Well and good, but I might need to have it retroactively affect her actions in the main game, because they can be pretty deplorable.
It is who she is. I doubt much will change on that, but her acceptance of others, the way she treats others will probably develop in only good ways.
Sera's a significant part of it, but more than Sera, yes. I hate the open world design, I hate the fact that hardly any zone is connected to the main plot, I hate the removed camera angle in conversations that's quite symbolic of individual people and interactions between them mattering less, I hate that Bioware sacrificed their core skill to schmooze up the Skyrim fans... and a fair bit more besides.
I feel the same way. Except for the Sera bit. She makes me enjoy the game.
It is who she is. I doubt much will change on that, but her acceptance of others, the way she treats others will probably develop in only good ways.
I feel the same way. Except for the Sera bit. She makes me enjoy the game.
I just find it extremely hard to justify liking someone... like this. It doesn't help that I feel weirdly affectionate towards her and will sometimes defend her from other people attacking her, even if... damn it, I wish she wasn't the only lesbian character.
clutter is good too you. I'm nowhere near the way mom is but i do not like clutter. and what if company randomly drops by...naw i'm good lol
It is for me...I'm a mini hoarder !
And I never get Visit..so its safe.....like dragon do I got me a nest 
Well and good, but I might need to have it retroactively affect her actions in the main game, because they can be pretty deplorable.
Sera's a significant part of it, but more than Sera, yes. I hate the open world design, I hate the fact that hardly any zone is connected to the main plot, I hate the removed camera angle in conversations that's quite symbolic of individual people and interactions between them mattering less, I hate that Bioware sacrificed their core skill to schmooze up the Skyrim fans... and a fair bit more besides.
The zones are connected to the main plot by the rifts, the refugees you must assist, the activities in them of Corypheus's minions and lieutenants. They may not be as tightly connected as you'd like but they are connected and it is inaccurate to say that they are not. I personally like the open world design as I like to be able to roam around in a game world. Running down one long dull road like in DA 2 is anathema to me. Could this game have had more story? Yes. Could it have had a stronger connection in terms of the minor characters to the main plot? Yes. But I am not convinced the fault of that lies with open world or Skyrim (which was a successful game in this genre so BioWare would be remiss not to be influenced by that).
I just find it extremely hard to justify liking someone... like this. It doesn't help that I feel weirdly affectionate towards her and will sometimes defend her from other people attacking her, even if... damn it, I wish she wasn't the only lesbian character.
People have different tastes.
i f-ing love kreia i base all my jedi on her and like half my characters have her beliefs shes my all time heroine!fine...ya stay Dalai-Lama....like
I go..and make him Tranquil !
i have a rule call 5hrs ahead b4 you comeby else im not opening the doorclutter is good too you. I'm nowhere near the way mom is but i do not like clutter. and what if company randomly drops by...naw i'm good lol
i f-ing love kreia i base all my jedi on her and like half my characters have her beliefs shes my all time heroine!i have a rule call 5hrs ahead b4 you comeby else im not opening the door
Me tooooooooo!
So ya may like this : http://lparchive.org...c-II/Update 47/
Its a Good walkthough with all screenshot ! 
People have different tastes.
How does one have a taste for Sera's vicious disdain for anyone or anything that doesn't fit her rather narrow worldview?
How does one have a taste for Sera's vicious disdain for anyone or anything that doesn't fit her rather narrow worldview?
Because they do? You aren't exactly someone who can speak for everyone. People like what they like.
I don't get why Sera is not allowed to reject Dalish culture? I don't get why Sera is not allowed to not want to be seen solely as an "elf" and not to carve out her own independent identity? I don't see why Sera is not allowed to NOT WANT TO DATE A DALISH ADHERENT?!!!! I don't see why that makes her an awful person? If you dig Dalish then she just doesn't want to date you.
I don't get why Sera is not allowed to reject Dalish culture? I don't get why Sera is not allowed to not want to be seen solely as an "elf" and not to carve out her own independent identity? I don't see why Sera is not allowed to NOT WANT TO DATE A DALISH ADHERENT?!!!! I don't see why that makes her an awful person. If you dig Dalish then she just doesn't want to date you.
Ya just wanna spam cass with those glassess
I don't get why Sera is not allowed to reject Dalish culture? I don't get why Sera is not allowed to not want to be seen solely as an "elf" and not to carve out her own independent identity? I don't see why Sera is not allowed to NOT WANT TO DATE A DALISH ADHERENT?!!!! I don't see why that makes her an awful person. If you dig Dalish then she just doesn't want to date you.
It's one thing to not want to follow Dalish culture. It's another to attack everyone who does.
Also, the fact that the only lesbian romance option is so bigoted is, as I've said before, an insult to lesbianism.
I like Sera but it wouldn't kill her to be more considerate of other people's feelings.
I hate the open world design, I hate the fact that hardly any zone is connected to the main plot, I hate the removed camera angle in conversations that's quite symbolic of individual people and interactions between them mattering less, I hate that Bioware sacrificed their core skill to schmooze up the Skyrim fans... and a fair bit more besides.
Fair enough. I like it when it works but large chunks of the game are just cold to me.
The zones are connected to the main plot by the rifts, the refugees you must assist, the activities in them of Corypheus's minions and lieutenants. They may not be as tightly connected as you'd like but they are connected and it is inaccurate to say that they are not. I personally like the open world design as I like to be able to roam around in a game world.
That's a pretty flimsy connection though. The thing is there's very little narrative satisfaction in any of those things, if the gameplay isn't enjoyable enough for you it's a glaring flaw.
I don't think the open world is to blame though, I think the main plot is just bad. Origin's plot probably could have worked quite well with that level design, and would have better side quest design. Well that and they need to cull all the inane Assassin's Creed filler.
It's one thing to not want to follow Dalish culture. It's another to attack everyone who does.
Also, the fact that the only lesbian romance option is so bigoted is, as I've said before, an insult to lesbianism.
Solas act like an ass if ya ask him for an idea for a Gift for Sera...yet , I dont see ya climbing walls for that one .
Telling someone I dont care about ya belief is attacking ? Seriously?
A dalish Player ASSUME because she is an Elf she is Elfish . Solas keep pestering her about it....
if anyone doing the attacking it is Solas and a Dalish Quizzie . Shoving the elfish on her...
can never have enough kreia. her lines to the masters was perfection. I literally get so into it that act out the whole sceneMe tooooooooo!
So ya may like this : http://lparchive.org...c-II/Update 47/
Its a Good walkthough with all screenshot !
can never have enough kreia. her lines to the masters was perfection. I literally get so into it that act out the whole scene
When she enter and face the Jeeday..OMG! I was so Proud of Mommie ! The best EPIc scene of the whole goddamn game .
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