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#69801
raging_monkey

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well...just deal me sheesh! come on! gimme the caaaard before Stinky dragon Pa..find out he is missing a Pillow  !

* draws hand*

* draws 6 from deck*
ill pass turn without play a card

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*steal Stinky Dragon Pa nest* here..I betcha all of this for some pazaak Games ! Deal me !  :lol:

 

 

*...narrows eyes...*  

 

okay Alexia...okay.  But you better win....or I'm moving into your place.



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* draws hand*

* draws 6 from deck*
ill pass turn without play a card

Argh I wish we could play pazaak for real..it such a Good addictive game 



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But without the comparison, was it enjoyable? I'm not really into musicals, but I'd like to think you had fun anyway :)

 

Partially I'm a movie snob, so... In the right hands it could be amazing, but I really think the casting choices were off. None of the acting seemed genuine, and they turned Belle into this flippant sonority girl and they made Beast very flamboyant... 

 

Gaston and Le Fou were incredible though. 

 

We sort of had more fun making fun of it. :P 



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*...narrows eyes...*  

 

okay Alexia...okay.  But you better win....or I'm moving into your place.

Hey ! I'm lousy at many thing but not at cards !  :D

 

And ya are welcome at my place..it is tiny..but if ya can eat the guy next door..I give ya my bed  ^_^



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Thats soo sweet and Noble and Romanticos.....SeraIGOTTATelLYAASecretABOUTRAKASHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Shhhhhhhh! *slips Alexia a Ferelden 100 Mark note with King Alaistair's face on it*  :o



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(Draws card from Portents deck.) Fox and Raven card, oh that's a good sign...

 

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I managed it with my Lavellan. She relaxed a great deal after a point but then I was rp'ing as a Andrastrian convert anyway. When I got to the Mythal scene that was tough. I had to headcanon that one a bit and think of how I might react, myself, in real-life. I decided to tell Sera that I didn't believe any of it while secretly my elf did because my elf loved her and knew she was frightened, acting out of fear, and needed comfort more than anything else in that moment. I even imagined telling Dorian that I'd lied to her and why and to keep my secret and Dorian swearing to do so. Sometimes we don't tell loved ones the truth. Not because we're rat-bastards but because we wish to spare them hurt or terror. I looked on it as a noble lie on my elf's part.

 

Was she a mage too?

 

See, that could be it right there.  I was doing a Proud Savior of the Dalish play through, she would have been happy with disbanding the chantry altogether and restoring the Dalish to what they were before, especially after learning the truth through Solas about all the things the Dalish were getting wrong.



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(Draws card from Portents deck.) Fox and Raven card, oh that's a good sign...

 

-snip-

 

What does it mean?



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Shhhhhhhh! *slips Alexia a Ferelden 100 Mark note with King Alaistair's face on it*  :o

Ya trying to bribe meh ? Thats even Worse....I'm unbribe-bal  :lol: 



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We sort of had more fun making fun of it. :P

 

That does sound like a good time :)


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Sera's a significant part of it, but more than Sera, yes. I hate the open world design, I hate the fact that hardly any zone is connected to the main plot, I hate the removed camera angle in conversations that's quite symbolic of individual people and interactions between them mattering less, I hate that Bioware sacrificed their core skill to schmooze up the Skyrim fans... and a fair bit more besides.


I agree with this almost completely.

I must admit that Sera's romance has affected my enjoyment of the game, as someone that prefers to play elf or human some of the decisions made in her design bother me a great deal. I love her general character but I haven't been able to play a game after the Mythal conversation since the first game. I find that I'm jealous of people that enjoy playing as a qunari or dwarf but I can't play these character's for a couple of reasons, one is that I don't want to see the way Sera treats other races when my canon is always going to be my first elf.

How many lesbians that didn't prefer to play qunari or dwarf are truly happy with the way things worked out? This is a question I think about a lot, it's a shame for me as I just love her character. I even love the romance with an elf up to a point, the confession scene with an elf is so powerful, when she says that she can even love an elf I really felt it. Compare the difference of that scene to her saying that she can love a noble and I felt nothing because there was no conflict with the noble. Unfortunately everything good that I felt was damaged after the Mythal conversation, by my inability to get over the fact that Sera doesn't seem to me to be able to love an elf as much as the other races.

Maybe it's selfish of me to feel this way but I can't change my feelings. Maybe much of this has to do with my general disappointment with the game as it seems like it’s been one disappointment after another. First it was a worry that the game was going to be Skyrimed and later the realization that it was. Then there was the Cass disappointment, so I latched onto Sera got excited to play as an elf and that turned out so well. Now I have a nice beautiful piece of artwork to remind me of my stupidity and disappointment.
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#69813
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Heh. Funny thing how mechanically an RPG is all about character progression, yet narratively their main characters are usually completely static.
 
Honourable mentions to KotOR 2 and Torment, but they put their character's pivotal moments before the game begins, which is sort of cheating.

 
I think it also points up how "character development" is not the be-all, end-all of a narrative, and why automatically expecting it from characters in order to have a "good" arc is ridiculous. The friendship and rivalry arcs from DA2 are instructive here.
 

Morning lovelies.
 
Went ot the Beauty and the Beast musical last night... can't hold a candle to the original Disney movie.


haiiiiiiii
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Hey ! I'm lousy at many thing but not at cards !  :D

 

And ya are welcome at my place..it is tiny..but if ya can eat the guy next door..I give ya my bed  ^_^

 

I'm big on organization, I organize my books and games by genre and alphabet, I hate clutter and everything has to be put away when not used...



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That does sound like a good time :)

 

Definitely a good night out. 

 

the Be Our Guest scene was incredible. They had gigantic champaigne bottles bigger than the stage that popped streamers and confetti into the audience!



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Was she a mage too?

 

See, that could be it right there.  I was doing a Proud Savior of the Dalish play through, she would have been happy with disbanding the chantry altogether and restoring the Dalish to what they were before, especially after learning the truth through Solas about all the things the Dalish were getting wrong.

 

No she was a rogue (archer). Raised in a clan but yearning to get free of them and see the world. Solas and her did not get along but for similar reasons as Sera. I had pretty low approval from him in that game. This current game I am playing a devout Dalish mage and have bumped heads with her already. But my mage is after Bull anyway so Sera can "deal with it."  :lol:



#69817
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Ya trying to bribe meh ? Thats even Worse....I'm unbribe-bal  :lol:

 No one is "un-bribe-bal." I merely have to find what floats the Alexia boat!  :lol:



#69818
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Argh I wish we could play pazaak for real..it such a Good addictive game

i know right

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Was she a mage too?

 

See, that could be it right there.  I was doing a Proud Savior of the Dalish play through, she would have been happy with disbanding the chantry altogether and restoring the Dalish to what they were before, especially after learning the truth through Solas about all the things the Dalish were getting wrong.

Yeah but ya missing the Point . restoring the dalish would be something Your quizzie Want . She doesnt want to be part of any fan club....thats the whole point of Sera . When ya ask her where she stand with the Mage and templar issue..she tell ya : in the freaking Middle with everyone else...

 

She doesnt want to raise anyone flag or carry any Banner...she just want to do right for the peoples , the poor..the harmed...and so on , but while staying removed from any factions , specie , race ,ethnie ..or watever . 

 

Ya know..thats like...wanting to do good but dont want ya name to be plastered and connected to this or that....


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#69820
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Maybe it's selfish of me to feel this way but I can't change my feelings. Maybe much of this has to do with my general disappointment with the game as it seems like it’s been one disappointment after another. First it was a worry that the game was going to be Skyrimed and later the realization that it was. Then there was the Cass disappointment, so I latched onto Sera got excited to play as an elf and that turned out so well. Now I have a nice beautiful piece of artwork to remind me of my stupidity and disappointment.

 

You have a piece of artwork? And what was the Cass disappointment?



#69821
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I think for my upcoming DA2 playthrough I'm going to try focusing on rivalry more. I didn't really play with that last time.



#69822
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I'm big on organization, I organize my books and games by genre and alphabet, I hate clutter and everything has to be put away when not used...

hey..fine....at least ya make my roomate happy and she can stop nagging meh lol ya clean..and I do clutter lol 


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#69823
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 No one is "un-bribe-bal." I merely have to find what floats the Alexia boat!  :lol:

Ya cant Bribe me ! like Judge Judy say 'the Truth will set ya freeeeee!!!' .....

 

well Asari make me floaty..and cold..apparently...*floaty head*  :lol:



#69824
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I think for my upcoming DA2 playthrough I'm going to try focusing on rivalry more. I didn't really play with that last time.

 

I can't bring myself to do the rivalry. Same with renegade in Mass Effect. I just can't do it. Makes me feel rotten...



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I'm big on organization, I organize my books and games by genre and alphabet, I hate clutter and everything has to be put away when not used...

 

Books get organized by Author's last name alphabetical and then by publication date.