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[AlexiaRevan]

I agree with this almost completely.

I must admit that Sera's romance has affected my enjoyment of the game, as someone that prefers to play elf or human some of the decisions made in her design bother me a great deal. I love her general character but I haven't been able to play a game after the Mythal conversation since the first game. I find that I'm jealous of people that enjoy playing as a qunari or dwarf but I can't play these character's for a couple of reasons, one is that I don't want to see the way Sera treats other races when my canon is always going to be my first elf.

How many lesbians that didn't prefer to play qunari or dwarf are truly happy with the way things worked out? This is a question I think about a lot, it's a shame for me as I just love her character. I even love the romance with an elf up to a point, the confession scene with an elf is so powerful, when she says that she can even love an elf I really felt it. Compare the difference of that scene to her saying that she can love a noble and I felt nothing because there was no conflict with the noble. Unfortunately everything good that I felt was damaged after the Mythal conversation, by my inability to get over the fact that Sera doesn't seem to me to be able to love an elf as much as the other races.

Maybe it's selfish of me to feel this way but I can't change my feelings. Maybe much of this has to do with my general disappointment with the game as it seems like it’s been one disappointment after another. First it was a worry that the game was going to be Skyrimed and later the realization that it was. Then there was the Cass disappointment, so I latched onto Sera got excited to play as an elf and that turned out so well. Now I have a nice beautiful piece of artwork to remind me of my stupidity and disappointment.

Hey Danielle !

 

Well at least ya dont go down the 'She is an idiot cose she wont accept my belief' like some did . Sorry to hear it was a deal breaker though 

 

if the whole game was about unraveling the truth about elfs..they sure did it in a bad way....

[AlexiaRevan]

I can't bring myself to do the rivalry. Same with renegade in Mass Effect. I just can't do it. Makes me feel rotten...

then ya dont understand what rival mean..it is nothing like renegade . At all..

[Dgyre]

Yeah but ya missing the Point . restoring the dalish would be something Your quizzie Want . She doesnt want to be part of any fan club....thats the whole point of Sera . When ya ask her where she stand with the Mage and templar issue..she tell ya : in the freaking Middle with everyone else...

 

She doesnt want to raise anyone flag or carry any Banner...she just want to do right for the peoples , the poor..the harmed...and so on , but while staying removed from any factions , specie , race ,ethnie ..or watever . 

 

Ya know..thats like...wanting to do good but dont want ya name to be plastered and connected to this or that....

 

No I get that, which is why I said it does make sense to me that Sera reacted how she did.  I was becoming basically a Dalish noble, and I was mage, and I now I was 'possessed' in a fashion.  All too much for her to want to say involved.  I don't think its a bad thing that she reacted how she did, it's true to her character.

 

My point is that we can't say she's a bad character because she reacts in a way thats true to her.

 

My Proud Lavellan isn't going to renounce her beliefs either, and shouldn't have to. 

 

Simply put, that specific way of playing the Inquisitor and the Inquisition she was creating was not compatible with Sera's viewpoing and goals.  Which is realistic.  

 

Its basically similar to defiling the ashes with Leliania in Origins.

[wintery]

I can't bring myself to do the rivalry. Same with renegade in Mass Effect. I just can't do it. Makes me feel rotten...

 

I might not last very long, but I thought I'd try.

 

Books get organized by Author's last name alphabetical and then by publication date.

 

My bookshelf is organized by some weird system even I don't understand. Oh these books over here are stories in which the characters like cheese, and this section is for shapeshifting ocelots.

 

(not real examples)

[LightningPoodle]

then ya dont understand what rival mean..it is nothing like renegade . At all..

 

Rivalry, to me, looks like being a right dick to everyone. I know it's not the same thing but to me, it's still the "evil" path.

[Dgyre]

Books get organized by Author's last name alphabetical and then by publication date.

 

publication date? no no no that won't do.

 

plot chronology.  Prequels written after main series was already published still have to go at the beginning of that series section!  Plus if the author has two series that were published simultaneously those series have to be done separately, in which case I just put my favorite series first.

[Dgyre]

I might not last very long, but I thought I'd try.

 

 

My bookshelf is organized by some weird system even I don't understand. Oh these books over here are stories in which the characters like cheese, and this section is for shapeshifting ocelots.

 

(not real examples)

 

shapeshifting ocelots?  that sounds cool

[AlexiaRevan]

I might not last very long, but I thought I'd try.

 

 

My bookshelf is organized by some weird system even I don't understand. Oh these books over here are stories in which the characters like cheese, and this section is for shapeshifting ocelots.

 

(not real examples)

Too bad..cose that would be a nice way to categorize books ! lol 

 

I (when I bother to even arrange my books)..i either go by shapes.....from Big books to small books..or by colors 

[Dgyre]

I agree with this almost completely.

I must admit that Sera's romance has affected my enjoyment of the game, as someone that prefers to play elf or human some of the decisions made in her design bother me a great deal. I love her general character but I haven't been able to play a game after the Mythal conversation since the first game. I find that I'm jealous of people that enjoy playing as a qunari or dwarf but I can't play these character's for a couple of reasons, one is that I don't want to see the way Sera treats other races when my canon is always going to be my first elf.

How many lesbians that didn't prefer to play qunari or dwarf are truly happy with the way things worked out? This is a question I think about a lot, it's a shame for me as I just love her character. I even love the romance with an elf up to a point, the confession scene with an elf is so powerful, when she says that she can even love an elf I really felt it. Compare the difference of that scene to her saying that she can love a noble and I felt nothing because there was no conflict with the noble. Unfortunately everything good that I felt was damaged after the Mythal conversation, by my inability to get over the fact that Sera doesn't seem to me to be able to love an elf as much as the other races.

Maybe it's selfish of me to feel this way but I can't change my feelings. Maybe much of this has to do with my general disappointment with the game as it seems like it’s been one disappointment after another. First it was a worry that the game was going to be Skyrimed and later the realization that it was. Then there was the Cass disappointment, so I latched onto Sera got excited to play as an elf and that turned out so well. Now I have a nice beautiful piece of artwork to remind me of my stupidity and disappointment.

 

I'm very sorry the game turned out that way for you.  Maybe they will do an anniversy or remastered Origins or something someday?

[Lady Luminous]

publication date? no no no that won't do.

 

plot chronology.  Prequels written after main series was already published still have to go at the beginning of that series section!  Plus if the author has two series that were published simultaneously those series have to be done separately, in which case I just put my favorite series first.

 

There are a few exceptions, but I don't really have any books like that. 

 

What is does do is keep the books in order that are written by the same author but aren't a series. Things like Stephen King and Dean Koontz, otherwise I'd have no idea where to place them. 

[wintery]

then ya dont understand what rival mean..it is nothing like renegade . At all..

 

I think that's one reason why I haven't tried the rivalry thing. I don't understand it. If we have that much disagreement, I'd probably take someone else with me on my dangerous hunt through the night city.

 

Not sure I'll understand it better this time, though.

[AlexiaRevan]

Rivalry, to me, looks like being a right dick to everyone. I know it's not the same thing but to me, it's still the "evil" path.

well it isnt lol 

 

A rival in da2 is that ya dont agree with someone . for exemple : a rivalery with Anders is that ya are pro-templar more . rival fenris : ya defend the Mage and Magic . rival merril : ya disagree with her use of Magic and Blood Magic recklessly....

 

It doesnt make ya an ass......its good for rpg sense..ya know....and rival Isabela is awesome ! 

[LightningPoodle]

well it isnt lol 

 

A rival in da2 is that ya dont agree with someone . for exemple : a rivalery with Anders is that ya are pro-templar more . rival fenris : ya defend the Mage and Magic . rival merril : ya disagree with her use of Magic and Blood Magic recklessly....

 

It doesnt make ya an ass......its good for rpg sense..ya know....and rival Isabela is awesome ! 

 

Never looked at it that way before. Still, probably not going to do it.

[Dgyre]

Rivalry, to me, looks like being a right dick to everyone. I know it's not the same thing but to me, it's still the "evil" path.

 

Rivalry is different for different characters.  in some cases, being a 'renegade' is going to earn your friendship with some companions, rivalry with others.  Being purely goody and 'paragon' for instance, would start you on a rival path with Isabella.

 

Paragon Renegade is about good and bad choices..

 

Rivalry or Friendship is about that specific companions interactions with you, and their view of your choices.  While you can, technically do all friendly with everyone...its really kind of setup for you to be rivals with some companions and friends with others, because naturally in a diverse group some people aren't going to like what you do, and some people are...but the idea is to that the people who don't like what you do still respect your choices and what you've acomplished.  So why they don't necessarily agree with you, they follow you because they respect and believe in you as the champion...not your choices, you.

[AlexiaRevan]

Never looked at it that way before. Still, probably not going to do it.

lol fair enough . 

 

And it isnt how to look at it..it is what it mean to be rival . In DA2 the whole friendship/rival isnt Good or evil..or Paragon/Renegade . It is more compatible or incompatible Beliefs . See , I for exemple..when I play a Blood Mage , I often go freinds with everyone..cose doing rival would be hypocrite . But when I play a noble warrior...then some should be rival.....to set the mood right 

[LightningPoodle]

Artwork by JadePrince

Spoiler

I had hoped since they announced Cass as a companion that she would be a bi Li but it wasn't to be.

 

But then there would be no straight women!  Stop trying to ruin game romances for me... 

 

( Joking. I wouldn't mind her being bi at all.  )

 

As to the artwork. I remember now. You posted it a while ago. I still love it and I would like a copy. 

[wintery]

publication date? no no no that won't do.

 

plot chronology.  Prequels written after main series was already published still have to go at the beginning of that series section!  Plus if the author has two series that were published simultaneously those series have to be done separately, in which case I just put my favorite series first.

 

I do that. Michelle West has a long series with a strange order, so six books in one set are in chronological order, but the series she's working on now... three take place before the main series and the other three take place after the main series. On the shelf they're in order by plot events (ignoring the time-traveling seer)

 

A rival in da2 is that ya dont agree with someone . for exemple : a rivalery with Anders is that ya are pro-templar more . rival fenris : ya defend the Mage and Magic . rival merril : ya disagree with her use of Magic and Blood Magic recklessly....

 

It doesnt make ya an ass......its good for rpg sense..ya know....and rival Isabela is awesome ! 

 

I do want to try Isabella rivalmance, which is why I'm thinking about this.

[raging_monkey]

But then there would be no straight women! Stop trying to ruin game romances for me...

( Joking. I wouldn't mind her being bi at all. )

As to the artwork. I remember now. You posted it a while ago. I still love it and I would like a copy.

careful poods that evil topic is still up

[AlexiaRevan]

I do that. Michelle West has a long series with a strange order, so six books in one set are in chronological order, but the series she's working on now... three take place before the main series and the other three take place after the main series. On the shelf they're in order by plot events (ignoring the time-traveling seer)

 

 

I do want to try Isabella rivalmance, which is why I'm thinking about this.

rival Isabela..is alot of Work....I had to look up every goddamn Quest to make sure she get Rival Points . But it is sooo worth it in the end   

[LightningPoodle]

careful poods that evil topic is still up

 

Huh? Evil topic? I was joking. Look, I even stated it, right there. *points to the bit in brackets*

[AlexiaRevan]

Huh? Evil topic? I was joking. Look, I even stated it, right there. *points to the bit in brackets*

*tie ya down* well..now we cant risk it ya running over there........just stay put *give cookies*   

[Dgyre]

There are a few exceptions, but I don't really have any books like that. 

 

What is does do is keep the books in order that are written by the same author but aren't a series. Things like Stephen King and Dean Koontz, otherwise I'd have no idea where to place them. 

 

See if they aren't part of the same story I don't care what order they are, because it doesn't matter what order I read them in.  But I don't really have any of those. I have to sort like this.

 

Purely Academic

Non-Academic Reference/Non-Fiction

Novels (small section)

Sci-Fi Fantasy Novels (Biggest Section by far)

Super Huge Books that don't fit normally on a shelf(LIke my Star Wars Encylopedia or Final Fantasy Strategy Guides)

 

Since most of my multiple authors are sci-fi fantasy with series, I don't really have your situation with Koontz and Stephen King.

 

But I have a ton of books by my favorite author, Terry Brooks, who did the Shannara and Landover series at the same time, and then went back and wrote prequels. Plus there is a whole Knight of the Void which is a stand alone series but technically a prequel connecting modern day to the shannara series and...yeah..anyways.

 

 So for story reading order I can't sort by publication date or they'd be all over the place, mixed together.  

[YourFunnyUncle]

I agree with this almost completely.

I must admit that Sera's romance has affected my enjoyment of the game, as someone that prefers to play elf or human some of the decisions made in her design bother me a great deal. I love her general character but I haven't been able to play a game after the Mythal conversation since the first game. I find that I'm jealous of people that enjoy playing as a qunari or dwarf but I can't play these character's for a couple of reasons, one is that I don't want to see the way Sera treats other races when my canon is always going to be my first elf.

How many lesbians that didn't prefer to play qunari or dwarf are truly happy with the way things worked out? This is a question I think about a lot, it's a shame for me as I just love her character. I even love the romance with an elf up to a point, the confession scene with an elf is so powerful, when she says that she can even love an elf I really felt it. Compare the difference of that scene to her saying that she can love a noble and I felt nothing because there was no conflict with the noble. Unfortunately everything good that I felt was damaged after the Mythal conversation, by my inability to get over the fact that Sera doesn't seem to me to be able to love an elf as much as the other races.

Maybe it's selfish of me to feel this way but I can't change my feelings. Maybe much of this has to do with my general disappointment with the game as it seems like it’s been one disappointment after another. First it was a worry that the game was going to be Skyrimed and later the realization that it was. Then there was the Cass disappointment, so I latched onto Sera got excited to play as an elf and that turned out so well. Now I have a nice beautiful piece of artwork to remind me of my stupidity and disappointment.

I'm sorry you feel this way Danielle. It's certainly not selfish to have personal disappointment. The game clearly wasn't right for you, and I'm sorry because you seemed so excited in the run-up.

 

I clearly can't speak as a lesbian, but I do prefer to play as an elf. I just also happen to prefer to play as an atheist, so the clash of beliefs thing didn't affect me at all. By that point in the story my elf had already decided that her gods weren't worth worshipping.

[AlexiaRevan]

See if they aren't part of the same story I don't care what order they are, because it doesn't matter what order I read them in.  But I don't really have any of those. I have to sort like this.

 

Purely Academic

Non-Academic Reference/Non-Fiction

Novels (small section)

Sci-Fi Fantasy Novels (Biggest Section by far)

Super Huge Books that don't fit normally on a shelf(LIke my Star Wars Encylopedia or Final Fantasy Strategy Guides)

 

Since most of my multiple authors are sci-fi fantasy with series, I don't really have your situation with Koontz and Stephen King.

 

But I have a ton of books by my favorite author, Terry Brooks, who did the Shannara and Landover series at the same time, and then went back and wrote prequels. Plus there is a whole Knight of the Void which is a stand alone series but technically a prequel connecting modern day to the shannara series and...yeah..anyways.

 

 So for story reading order I can't sort by publication date or they'd be all over the place, mixed together.  

*start messing books orders* Nom Nom Nom Nom