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#7376
WildOrchid

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My gut feeling is that the race gated romances are the two still not announced.

 

Same.



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"Snip"


Being bisexual myself, the "promiscuous bi" characters didn't bother me as much as the people who kept saying that all bi characters needed to be like that to be "realistic" promiscuity is not a rule for being "truly" bisexual, someone shy & sexually inexperienced like Merrill is just as realistic as someone like Zevran.
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#7378
AresKeith

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It's not "okay" because she's already gated to one gender, and F/F at that.


That doesn't rule her out, along with Cass, Cullen, or.Dorian being possibly race-gated

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Maria Caliban

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I agree with some criticism of BioWare's handling of bisexual characters, especially Zevran's attitude toward relationship and sex with males.

I think Isabela's 'promiscuity' was excellent. Her attitude toward sex and fulfilling her desires was positive, she was confident and comfortable with herself, and the game never feels the need to shame her for her behavior. Some bisexuals have a lot of sex with lots of different people, and there's nothing wrong with that.

And BioWare has had other bisexual women who aren't like that: Liara (shy, awkward virgin), Merrill (shy, awkward virginal), Silk Fox (strongly hinted to be a virgin), and Leliana (romantic, wanting to take it slow, wanting a committed relationship.)

If Isabela had been the only bisexual BioWare created, I would not like her portrayal, but she comes in a game with three other bisexual companions and after BioWare has created several bisexual love interests.

And no, my question toward Luke had nothing to do with representation. I am not worried that he'll create something offensive or damaging, nor even that I'll dislike Sera. If anything, I dislike the modern tendency to portray lesbians as happily taking part in conventional, hetero-normative society.

If BioWare announced they were going to have a butch, ball-busting qunari woman who had no sense of humor as a lesbian companion, I'd be all for it.
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Does "race-gating" mean only one race has access to the romance, or one is excluded? Or do we not know this information yet?

Sorry if I'm miles behind, having a hard time keeping up with all the info!  :blink:



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AresKeith

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Nah, Cass and Sera are safe from race-gating..... they're already gender gated so I very much doubt they'll add another gating.


Besides, they didn't say anything about race gating when they announced Cass and or Sera.


They said that the race-gating is for story reasons, so.I doubt they'll reveal it yet

Plus they never said the already confirmed romances wouldn't be race-gated as well

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They said that the race-gating is for story reasons, so.
 

 

They said the gender-gating was for "story reasons" as well, of which I am about 90% sure will end up being BS and could have just as easily been done with the other gender as well.

 

Guess we'll find out.



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If BioWare announced they were going to have a butch, ball-busting qunari woman who had no sense of humor as a lesbian companion, I'd be all for it.



Be still my beating heart.

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AresKeith

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They said the gender-gating was for "story reasons" as well, of which I am about 90% sure will end up being BS and could have just as easily been done with the other gender as well.

 

Guess we'll find out.

 

I don't remember them saying gender-gating was for story reasons



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Eudaemonium

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I don't remember them saying gender-gating was for story reasons


I assume ToxicNightshade is referring to the 'tell different stories' thing.

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Maria Caliban

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David has talked about having various stories he wants to explore with Dorian and Cassandra. I think being gay in Tevinter is meaningful enough that it could be part of his larger story. I don't know how that applies to Cassandra, but David will likely talk about it after the game ships.

As for Sera, Allan has said that Luke wanted to make her a lesbian, and nothing Luke has said regarding her sexuality makes me think it's for 'story reasons.'
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The "Cassandra desperate to produce heir for Nevarra" story.

 

I'll eat the game manual if that's actually really gonna happen.



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WildOrchid

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What if Cass doesn't actually want children?



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Milan92

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What if Cass doesn't actually want children?

 

I dunno, doesn't really make a difference for me.



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The "Cassandra desperate to produce heir for Nevarra" story.

 

I'll eat the game manual if that's actually really gonna happen.

 

This being EA, it's not really a dare, is it ? :P



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Milan92

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This being EA, it's not really a dare, is it ? :P

 

Well, I never said which manual I would eat, now did I? ;) 

 

What if I buy the game digital  :rolleyes:



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The "Cassandra desperate to produce heir for Nevarra" story.
 
I'll eat the game manual if that's actually really gonna happen.


Can't see it and really hope that's not the angle.

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Maria Caliban

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I like the idea that the only story straight people get is breeding about as much as the idea that the only story gay people get is pain and angst.
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I like the idea that the only story straight people get is breeding about as much as the idea that the only story gay people get is pain and angst.



Ugh, you just made me remember a particular movie.


Spoiler

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I like the idea that the only story straight people get is breeding about as much as the idea that the only story gay people get is pain and angst.

.....Like homosexuals can breed without a doner. It's not like Heterosexuals don't have romantic endings that end badly....Look at All of Maric's romances.



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As for Sera, Allan has said that Luke wanted to make her a lesbian, and nothing Luke has said regarding her sexuality makes me think it's for 'story reasons.'

I think the idea that there may be story reasons behind Sera's sexuality is pretty much moot at this point. It was fun to speculate about it for a little while, but that's about it.



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Then it's my responsibility to rectify that...

 

dragon_age_inquisition__sera_by_felitomk

 

Sauce

 

oh hey I made this one! I'm happy you guys liked it. :D


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Fiery Phoenix

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oh hey I made this one! I'm happy you guys liked it. :D

Haha, that's awesome. Must be great seeing your work out and about ;)



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Ailith Tycane

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Ugh, you just made me remember a particular movie.


Spoiler

 

lol, those horribly awkward sex scenes though.

 

 

As for Sera, Allan has said that Luke wanted to make her a lesbian, and nothing Luke has said regarding her sexuality makes me think it's for 'story reasons.'

 

Yeah, that's what I was always afraid of. I know a lot of people don't understand the complaint of wanting to have a LI that is important to the main story, but this kinda falls in with that as well. I feel like Sera being a lesbian is probably going to go about as deep as "because lol I felt like it" and wont be explored any further than that. 

 

I was still very much on board with that imagined scenario of Cassandra being surprised by being attracted to a female Inquisitor, because it's way more three dimensional and interesting from a character standpoint than just "hey I like your face and your a lady, lets make out", but alas. 



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lol, those horribly awkward sex scenes though.
 
 
 
Yeah, that's what I was always afraid of. I know a lot of people don't understand the complaint of wanting to have a LI that is important to the main story, but this kinda falls in with that as well. I feel like Sera being a lesbian is probably going to go about as deep as "because lol I felt like it" and wont be explored any further than that. 
 
I was still very much on board with that imagined scenario of Cassandra being surprised by being attracted to a female Inquisitor, because it's way more three dimensional and interesting from a character standpoint than just "hey I like your face and your a lady, lets make out", but alas.



Yeah, they were something. I did crush on Emma though. (Thanks I needed a good laugh)


When I was in my state of denial on Cassandra I still hoped that would happen but I finally gave up on that one.