My thoughts exactly.
Besides, if they aren't all optional, you KNOW there's going to be a lot of resentment in the thread from people who don't like having all these characters forced on us even when we don't want to take them along for this particular playthrough.
Eh, let them criticize. I'd actually prefer that none of them were optional, because optional people lead to content that can't be considered indispensable in later games, which means it's much harder to make them significant.
My thoughts exactly.
Besides, if they aren't all optional, you KNOW there's going to be a lot of resentment in the thread from people who don't like having all these characters forced on us even when we don't want to take them along for this particular playthrough.
And I should care about those people's complaints... why exactly?
It's not my fault they're complaining about getting more characters, because the same people would likely complain about a lack of characters if the game had less companions.
Besides, merely recruiting her doesn't mean you have to take her along. You can leave her at base the second she joins you and forget she even exists anymore. That's been the case with every single BW game I can remember.
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Eh, let them criticize. I'd actually prefer that none of them were optional, because optional people lead to content that can't be considered indispensable in later games, which means it's much harder to make them significant.
People will find some reason to complain is all. Sera's optional? People fret that they might not find her or OMG WHAT IF she walks out??? Sera's required. Okay, this thread might love it, but plenty of others will b!tch about being forced to recruit a companion they don't like, and the complaints will outnumber the praise 9/1.
And I should care about those people's complaints... why exactly?
Was I talking about you in particular?
Did I say "People would complain Fiery Phoenix would get annoyed"?
I didn't think so.
People will find some reason to complain is all. Sera's optional? People fret that they might not find her or OMG WHAT IF she walks out??? Sera's required. Okay, this thread might love it, but plenty of others will b!tch about being forced to recruit a companion they don't like, and the complaints will outnumber the praise 9/1.
Do the complaints not always outnumber the praise in that manner?
In any case, I find it better for certain people to be angry than happy.
Was I talking about you in particular?
Did I say "People would complain Fiery Phoenix would get annoyed"?
I didn't think so.
My point is "People would complain" is hardly a valid excuse. As you just said yourself, people will complain no matter what happens. So saying companions shouldn't be optional because some might complain about it is a moot point.
To be honest, I'd prefer every companion be mandatory. But I also know that, realistically, that won't happen.
And I should care about those people's complaints... why exactly?
It's not my fault they're complaining about getting more characters, because the same people would likely complain about a lack of characters if the game had less companions.
I don't see how that adds up. Making them optional doesn't minimize the number of companions you can recruit. Having companions as optional simply allows the player to determine whether or not it makes sense for that respective protagonist to recruit the person. Maybe a pro-templar protagonist might not recruit apostates who are vying to help the mages maintain their autonomy from the Chantry and the templars. Perhaps a Dalish Inquisitor wouldn't want to recruit a chevalier who murdered elves in cold blood. It's about what makes sense for the character.
Besides, merely recruiting her doesn't mean you have to take her along. You can leave her at base the second she joins you and forget she even exists anymore. That's been the case with every single BW game I can remember.
Recruiting a person when it doesn't make sense for your character to do so can break immersion for some people. It's one of the reasons why I think player agency is preferable.
I'm pretty happy that I had the option to leave Sten in his cage rather than just leaving in my camp doing nothing all the time.
I'm pretty happy that I had the option to leave Sten in his cage rather than just leaving in my camp doing nothing all the time.
Will you be less happy when he shows up alive in a future game and less sympathetic toward the bas than he would have been otherwise?
I don't see how that adds up. Making them optional doesn't minimize the number of companions you can recruit. Having companions as optional simply allows the player to determine whether or not it makes sense for that respective protagonist to recruit the person. Maybe a pro-templar protagonist might not recruit apostates who are vying to help the mages maintain their autonomy from the Chantry and the templars. Perhaps a Dalish Inquisitor wouldn't want to recruit a chevalier who murdered elves in cold blood. It's about what makes sense for the character.
You seem to be talking strictly from an roleplaying perspective, which is fine. I'm more worried about the practical side of things. The fact is, by opting to skip a companion, you are implicitly telling the game you'd prefer to forgo any and all content related to that character, owing to your personal vision of the character you're playing. If that's really something you would like, then I can't convince you otherwise. But come to think of it, why would these characters even be companions if it didn't 'make sense' for the Inquisitor, no matter their beliefs or affiliations, to recruit them in the first place?
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely with you that player agency is a wonderful thing to have. However, in some cases, I think it can backfire in subtle ways.
I've tried skipping companions in DA:O and ME2. I would be lying if I said I enjoyed those playthrough's as much as I did those where I recruited everyone.
Will you be less happy when he shows up alive in a future game and less sympathetic toward the bas than he would have been otherwise?
I'd prefer he doesn't show up again in such a case, but if he did, then I would certainly hope he would act differently than if I had taken him. It would mean my choice had a more meaningful impact on Thedas.
Makes me wonder what past companions will show up in Inquisition? We haven't seen Sten since Origins, Oghren, Valenna and Sigrun since Awakening (if they survived that is).
Out of curiosity, do we know what colour Sera's eyes are officially?
In the one screen at the bottom of her character page and the tavern concept art they look blue, but in her headshot and backdrop on the same page they're brown.
Is she having the same eye colour shenanigans as Leliana?
The official verdict is green hazel. 
No change in her eyes afaik. In the neutral light of the model viewer her iris is orangey-brownish near the pupil, changing to more yellow, and I think a hint of blue around the edge. A bit like the "green and hazel" example at this link.
They drift brown or blue in our shots depending on shadow and surrounding light. Eyes in Frostbite are crazy.
As above, pretty sure the makeup is the same. Most likely shadows in the tavern shot adding to it.
Her character kit (link in OP) gives a good idea of what her eye color looks like sans wonky lighting issues.
i was just in the solace thread, and some one from the varric thread came in and talked about games they were playing in their threads.
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Hey guys, just popping in here. Some of this fanart is great, but I won't put art into the OP that doesn't have a link to the artist. If you guys could go through some of the art from the last couple of pages and get links for the artist, I'll put it into the OP. We've got quite the collection on there. 
The official verdict is green hazel.
Her character kit (link in OP) gives a good idea of what her eye color looks like sans wonky lighting issues.
Thanking you, I had forgotten about that post.
Hi! I'm poking over from the Varric thread, and wanted to say hi!
We are playing the Petquisition! game right now, if anyone is interested!
Group submissions are accepted, so I thought it would be fun for all of the character threads to make their own group chart!
Check it out if you are interested, and be sure to post a group chart if you want in the OP!
http://forum.bioware...ition-the-game/
What would the Friends of Red Jenny want from one of Vivienne's parties?
I misread this as panties 
She strikes me as the type to settle down with a tub of Neapolitan ice cream and a big spoon.
Yeah, I can see Sera having the metabolism to get away with eating any and all junk food. To the annoyance of my Qunari Inquisitor.
Who would be faster at picking locks, Leliana or Sera? On your marks ladies! 
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