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That makes the Council incompetent and bias, and just because Ashley puts humanity first doesn't make her racist

Actually it does.........



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Your keep? You own a keep? I never knew you were a Lord.

yes im lord monkey didnt ya know?

We are both royalty *throws hair over shoulder* didn't you know?

quite milady * polite bow*

Mooooooooooooorning !
 
Whats up ?

nothing

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AlexiaRevan

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yes im lord monkey didnt ya know?
quite milady * polite bow*

nothing

Ya know...that usually mean something is up  :lol: 



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We are both royalty *throws hair over shoulder* didn't you know?

 

My brother and sister are royalty and I still remain a lowly hound! What is the meaning of this!?

 

Mooooooooooooorning !

 

Whats up ? 

 

I'm watching through Game of Thrones again. Oh, and trying to do a weeks worth of work in a day.  :lol:



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My brother and sister are royalty and I still remain a lowly hound! What is the meaning of this!?

 

 

I'm watching through Game of Thrones again. Oh, and trying to do a weeks worth of work in a day.  :lol:

Well ya are my Kid..and we dont do roylty here..so dont become a snob..or I have to beat it out of ya lol 

 

Hum..I'm watching Avatar! 



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Nah. Sardaukar is pretty cool, normally.

You misunderstand, I was simply that my personality or behavior might annoy him. I can be a pain in the ass and I'm well aware of my little quirks.

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The thing about racism in the real world is that humans are actually all the same species. Much as I disagree with Ashley, I'm not sure that racism is the right word. Xenophobia, maybe? Speciesism?

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Well ya are my Kid..and we dont do roylty here..so dont become a snob..or I have to beat it out of ya lol 

 

Hum..I'm watching Avatar! 

 

Me? A snob? Never.  :lol:

 

Avatar? The one with the blue people or the cartoon?



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Me? A snob? Never.  :lol:

 

Avatar? The one with the blue people or the cartoon?

The cartoon...the kid avatar....



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Ya know...that usually mean something is up  :lol:

well i am confused at the moment...

My brother and sister are royalty and I still remain a lowly hound! What is the meaning of this!?
 

 
I'm watching through Game of Thrones again. Oh, and trying to do a weeks worth of work in a day.  :lol:

as is the natrual order XD

The thing about racism in the real world is that humans are actually all the same species. Much as I disagree with Ashley, I'm not sure that racism is the right word. Xenophobia, maybe? Speciesism?

speciesism is accurate

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The thing about racism in the real world is that humans are actually all the same species. Much as I disagree with Ashley, I'm not sure that racism is the right word. Xenophobia, maybe? Speciesism?

well I though xenophothingy was the same as racism..it isnt ?  :huh: 



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well I though xenophothingy was the same as racism..it isnt ? :huh:

Nah, as I said earlier Racism is the belief that a certain race or group is inferior to your race and or group. Xenophobia is a fear of aliens, as in you don't trust them.
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well I though xenophothingy was the same as racism..it isnt ? :huh:

Xenophobia is the fear of things that are different. Racism is a type of xenophobia, like Budweiser is a type of beer. All Budweiser is (allegedly) beer, but not all beer is Budweiser.

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Well, Storm, if I had been around I would have joined you in tiny team Ashley defense. Or more likely run away, tbh.  I get oh so very tired of enjoying female characters that everyone wants to rip apart and call crazy b*tches, lol. 


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Hence the phobia part

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Nah, as I said earlier Racism is the belief that a certain race or group is inferior to your race and or group. Xenophobia is a fear of aliens, as in you don't trust them.

That sound the same...cose doesnt the fear eventually lead to distrust then not liking then thinking ya are superior ?? 



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The thing about racism in the real world is that humans are actually all the same species. Much as I disagree with Ashley, I'm not sure that racism is the right word. Xenophobia, maybe? Speciesism?

 

I don't like the term racism or even race for that matter. Like you said, we are all the same species. Why can't we all be seen as human beings and not just on the colour of our skin?

 

I've heard the term Xenophobia associated with Ashley and I agree with it. It's the same term used against Cerberus as well. Her attitude towards the other companions does change however as the story progresses.



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Well, Storm, if I had been around I would have joined you in tiny team Ashley defense. Or more likely run away, tbh.  I get oh so very tired of enjoying female characters that everyone wants to rip apart and call crazy b*tches, lol.

it does get stale after a while

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Well, Storm, if I had been around I would have joined you in tiny team Ashley defense. Or more likely run away, tbh.  I get oh so very tired of enjoying female characters that everyone wants to rip apart and call crazy b*tches, lol.

Yeah, it gets aggravating. Especially when other characters exhibit the same behavior and get a free pass.
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Yeah, it gets aggravating. Especially when other characters exhibit the same behavior and get a free pass.


That's pretty much my issue with it as well

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Well, Storm, if I had been around I would have joined you in tiny team Ashley defense. Or more likely run away, tbh.  I get oh so very tired of enjoying female characters that everyone wants to rip apart and call crazy b*tches, lol. 

*raise Hand* I never did ! I just think she is a hypocrite and it drive me bonker....and Shep is a specter . Maybe the council is full of doo doo head! but shepard doesnt have to be the 'for humanity specter' but a Galaxy specter.....and Ashley may distrust Alien..but her 'fear' getting in the way..so in the end , shep is the one who get all the crap.....

At least..Thats how I always played my Shep....the specter for the Galaxie..and all species matter...there is no super specie or one specie come first..they all matter....and thats something Ash doesnt get . Thats why her becoming a specter is mind blowing...she always will put humanity first ! and a specter is a defender of the Galaxy! Not just earth! 



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That sound the same...cose doesnt the fear eventually lead to distrust then not liking then thinking ya are superior ??

theres a minor distinction thats mostly technicality

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That sound the same...cose doesnt the fear eventually lead to distrust then not liking then thinking ya are superior ??


Not exactly, for some people maybe but for others like Ashley no

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Not exactly, for some people maybe but for others like Ashley no

But I dont get it !

 

Humans are the one who blacklisted her family name , give her the crappiest job and wont let her move in the rank . But Aliens are the one who get the crap ??? That doesnt make any sense !!!!!! 



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Bit of help for the discussion
http://i.word.com/id...nary/xenophobia
http://i.word.com/idictionary/racism