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#78376
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Poker chips look the same on both sides (the ones I have at least), so it won't work. *throws marbles on the floor*

 

So either side is New Vegas, which is the correct answer.



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The question remains: I want to start a new playthrough of either Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas, but I can't decide which one... so hard to pick. I have been playing New Vegas a lot recently... but the casinos! Oh, which to pick? They're both awesome to play when drunk and playing an alcoholic character. XD

 

I still prefer Fallout 3. More iconic locations, more  of open ended world to explore and I loved the fact that companions could die. With mod's you can pretty much take all the gameplay changes/mechanics of FO:NV into FO3 and end up with the best of both worlds.


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#78378
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So either side is New Vegas, which is the correct answer.

Fallout 3 was good too. I like the atmosphere better. But NV has more stuff to do in it.



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The question remains: I want to start a new playthrough of either Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas, but I can't decide which one... so hard to pick. I have been playing New Vegas a lot recently... but the casinos! Oh, which to pick? They're both awesome to play when drunk and playing an alcoholic character. XD

 

Fallout 3 has the better story in my opinion.



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The question remains: I want to start a new playthrough of either Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas, but I can't decide which one... so hard to pick. I have been playing New Vegas a lot recently... but the casinos! Oh, which to pick? They're both awesome to play when drunk and playing an alcoholic character. XD

its always vegas for me booze, men,women and giant rats how can you say no to vegas XD

#78381
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Fallout 3 was good too.

 

I didn't think so. Bland story. Bland characters. Bland areas. Bland gameplay. Typical Bethesda really. Also green.



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its always vegas for me booze, men,women and giant rats how can you say no to vegas XD

 

There are giant rats in Fallout 3 as well. And booze. And men. And women. And a murderous little child in a virtual reality inside another virtual reality.



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its always vegas for me booze, men,women and giant rats how can you say no to vegas XD

I never played with Wild Wasteland... Maybe I should...



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Flip a poker chip? *runs away*

Is it a blue and back poker chip or a white and gold poker chip?

 

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*runs away*


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#78385
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There are giant rats in Fallout 3 as well. And booze. And men. And women. And a murderous little child in a virtual reality inside another virtual reality.

its closer to cali and i support the NCR XD

I never played with Wild Wasteland... Maybe I should...

its a fun perk

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Is it a blue and back poker chip or a white and gold poker chip?

 

*snip*

*snip*

*runs away*

 

It's goddamn blue and black and anyone who sees white is bloody crazy! 

 

Stupid poker chip colours. *grumble*


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i love poker and 21

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I just learned how to play Texas Hold'em. Managed to even win a round of it before losing every other hand but it did not strike me as something many would be good at. :P



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It's goddamn blue and black and anyone who sees white is bloody crazy! 

 

Stupid poker chip colours. *grumble*

 

Huh?



#78390
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I just learned how to play Texas Hold'em. Managed to even win a round of it before losing every other hand but it did not strike me as something many would be good at. :P

 

I'm quite good at Texas Hold 'em.



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I just learned how to play Texas Hold'em. Managed to even win a round of it before losing every other hand but it did not strike me as something many would be good at. :P

roulette is the best... such a rush

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I didn't think so. Bland story. Bland characters. Bland areas. Bland gameplay. Typical Bethesda really. Also green.


Bethesda is based in Rockville, MD (not Bethesda, MD - at least not anymore - which never stops being silly) and can't even get basic details of its own native geography right. Or even right-ish. The Capital Wasteland in FO3 is basically nothing like the real DC area.

FNV did a slightly better job aligning itself with the area around Vegas, given the limitations of the map's size.

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Huh?


haha you missed it

good for you

http://www.wired.com...es-color-dress/

#78394
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Huh?

 

You haven't seen it yet? Uncle is talknig about the blue dress debacle all over the net! It blew up my facebook last night. 

 

http://www.latimes.c...-htmlstory.html



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haha you missed it

good for you

http://www.wired.com...es-color-dress/

 

I'm telling y'all. It is blue, damnit. 



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It's goddamn blue and black and anyone who sees white is bloody crazy! 

 

Stupid poker chip colours. *grumble*

Serious answer (about the dress not the chips)

 

No one is crazy.

 

First, the camera that took that photo seriously screwed up. The automatic white balance went badly wrong and it massively overexposed the photo.

 

Second, human perception of colour relies strongly on what you subconsciously assume the ambient lighting to be. If you look at that photo and assume consistent yellowish lighting then it looks blue/black, but if you assume blueish lighting coming from the front-left, as well as the obvious yellow lighting in the background, you start to see the yellow/gold. xkcd nailed it, as ususal.

 

dress_color.png

 

Third, white balance varies massively between monitors, depending on make, model and how your computer is set up. This means the people can be looking at the same picture on different monitors and the colour cast can be very different, causing you to get a different impression ofthe ambient lighting.

 

Take those three things together - a screwed up photo, easily confusable human perception and inconsistant monitors, and you get the shitstorm that happened. The actual colour of the dress (you're right, Dazzle, it;s blue and black.) is much less important to me than what it says about human perception.

 

Relevant further watching:

 



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haha you missed it

good for you

http://www.wired.com...es-color-dress/

 

Oh, that. My mum showed that to me this morning. It's Blue and Black. She see's White and Gold. Weird...


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Serious answer (about the dress not the chips)

 

No one is crazy.

 

First, the camera that took that photo seriously screwed up. The automatic white balance went badly wrong and it massively overexposed the photo.

 

Second, human perception of colour relies strongly on what you subconsciously assume the ambient lighting to be. If you look at that photo and assume consistent yellowish lighting then it looks blue/black, but if you assume blueish lighting coming from the front-left, as well as the obvious yellow lighting in the background, you start to see the yellow/gold. xkcd nailed it, as ususal.

 

dress_color.png

 

Third, white balance varies massively between monitors, depending on make, model and how your coputer is set up. This means the people can be looking at the same picture on different monitors and teh colour cast can be very different, causing you to get a different impression ofthe ambient lighting.

 

Take those three things together - a screwed up photo, easily confusable human perception and inconsistant monitors, and you get the shitstorm that happened. The actual colour of the dress (you're right, Dazzle, it;s blue and black.) is much less important to me than what it says about human perception.

 

Relevant further watching:

 

 

Don't worry, I'm not actually calling people crazy. I'm slightly snippy this morning due to lack of sleep ,so don't take anything I say seriously. 

 

It is an interesting phenomenon though. 



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Oh, that. My mum showed that to me this morning. It's Blue and Black. She see's White and Gold. Weird...

 

Ha! Yay, you got it right. 


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Just had my first night time chase in Dying Light... F*ck that is scary! My heart is racing right now.