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#78551
LightningPoodle

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It's the Bioware way.

 

Well, no, it's not. You don't get to have everything anymore.



#78552
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<_< Ya are a pain...

 

Here is my Last Question for ya: Why would Sera Love your elfish elf ? Why would she give up her ideals , her anonymas , her way of Life...free from any clan..title.....birth right or watever...Labels......To be with ya and ya clan and ya ideals ? Why ? 

 

Yes . Why ? why would she ? 

 

Ya come off like a Cerbrus version Elf . And then all I'm hearing is 'Wahhh why Paragon Shepard doesnt join my organization ? She is Human..that should be enough to get her in the fold . Human mean by default..ya should want to have Humanity at the Top' ...

Why would I ask her to join my clan if she clearly wouldn't want to? She doesn't have to give up any of her ideals, either, so far as I know.

 

 

Well, no, it's not. You don't get to have everything anymore.

I don't know about you, but I've never played a Bioware game where I haven't felt like I've gotten everything worth having, even if it takes me a couple of playthroughs to truly reach the optimal outcome.



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Why would I ask her to join my clan if she clearly wouldn't want to? She doesn't have to give up any of her ideals, either, so far as I know.

 

 

I don't know about you, but I've never played a Bioware game where I haven't felt like I've gotten everything worth having, even if it takes me a couple of playthroughs to truly reach the optimal outcome.

So why so butthurt then...? Shouldnt ya be All Happy......Ya will leave with Sera to another city . Ya are ok if she doesnt wanna meet ya clan.....and if she doesnt care about any Dalish issue . All I see is rainbow...so why arent ya happy ? 



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So why so butthurt then...? Shouldnt ya be All Happy......Ya will leave with Sera to another city . Ya are ok if she doesnt wanna meet ya clan.....and if she doesnt care about any Dalish issue . All I see is rainbow...so why arent ya happy ? 

This whole thing started because I didn't want to repudiate my faith in the Creators and was asking for additional dialogue options.



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This whole thing started because I didn't want to repudiate my faith in the Creators and was asking for additional dialogue options.

So...ya want to be with her..an Andrastien . And yet keep ya own faith . Yet wanna make the elfish on Top..and one day take down the chantry ? 

 

And ya think ya gonna have a happy ending ? 

 

Ya do know...that such belief will clash sooner or later right ? 2 Peoples with different faith..heck even peoples who dont believe in Anything would end up clashing sooner or later....

 

So...if ya could make that dialogue option that ya seem to be dying for , what would it be ? 

 

'Sera I......' what ? What would ya say if ya could write the option ya want badly ?



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I don't know about you, but I've never played a Bioware game where I haven't felt like I've gotten everything worth having, even if it takes me a couple of playthroughs to truly reach the optimal outcome.

 

They've stopped with the whole "I can help both parties" or " I can get both these groups to help me" so no, the BioWare way is not "I can have what I want" anymore.



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They've stopped with the whole "I can help both parties" or " I can get both these groups to help me" so no, the BioWare way is not "I can have what I want" anymore.

when did they do that ? in mass effect ya can help both the quarian and the geth..so much good it does....the destroy option nuke both choice to lalaland...



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So...ya want to be with her..an Andrastien . And yet keep ya own faith . Yet wanna make the elfish on Top..and one day take down the chantry ? 

 

And ya think ya gonna have a happy ending ? 

 

Ya do know...that such belief will clash sooner or later right ? 2 Peoples with different faith..heck even peoples who dont believe in Anything would end up clashing sooner or later....

 

So...if ya could make that dialogue option that ya seem to be dying for , what would it be ? 

 

'Sera I......' what ? What would ya say if ya could write the option ya want badly ?

Josephine seems to be Andrastian too, but there weren't any religious problems with that relationship.

 

And I came to this thread to ask about what might work. But probably including other Dalish in the same situation, as my own is romancing Josephine. I did, however, already post a suggestion.



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Josephine seems to be Andrastian too, but there weren't any religious problems with that relationship.

 

And I came to this thread to ask about what might work. But probably including other Dalish in the same situation, as my own is romancing Josephine. I did, however, already post a suggestion.

So repost it...I'm not scrolling back God know how many page to find it...



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This is getting to be a rather uncomfortable place for an elf fan.
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when did they do that ? in mass effect ya can help both the quarian and the geth..so much good it does....the destroy option nuke both choice to lalaland...

 

They stopped after Mass Effect 3. I think they said that having the option to get both meant that that was always the best outcome. They didn't want that so they scrapped it. An example now would be the Mages and Templars. The optimal would be to help both, right? But you can't. The game forces you to make a decision rather than a compromise. I think it's better.



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They stopped after Mass Effect 3. I think they said that having the option to get both meant that that was always the best outcome. They didn't want that so they scrapped it. An example now would be the Mages and Templars. The optimal would be to help both, right? But you can't. The game forces you to make a decision rather than a compromise. I think it's better.

why ya would help Both ? 

 

I dont wanna help the Templar..let me at them is what I wanted  :lol:



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So repost it...I'm not scrolling back God know how many page to find it...

 

So, if we pretend that the Inquisitor wasn't restricted to only two dialogue options in that breakup conversation, what might possibly alleviate Sera's issues without repudiating one's own faith? I was thinking something along the lines of "What I believe has nothing to do with you or us, Sera."

 

 

 

This is getting to be a rather uncomfortable place for an elf fan.

And Sera's rather uncomfortable around elves, so it all fits.

 

 

The optimal would be to help both, right?

Not in my opinion. The templars can rot.



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So, if we pretend that the Inquisitor wasn't restricted to only two dialogue options in that breakup conversation, what might possibly alleviate Sera's issues without repudiating one's own faith? I was thinking something along the lines of "What I believe has nothing to do with you or us, Sera."


I don't think Sera is flexible enough for that. She is a pig-headed character.

Which I find enjoyable as it is rather rare in Bio games. Tough luck if you're playing an elf though.

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This is getting to be a rather uncomfortable place for an elf fan.

 

Is it? I am not anti-elf. I mean I don't agree with the Dalish stance on things but I also get that they were kicked around by humans and their insularity arises out of that distrust. There are issues with both sides and I cannot think of a group or a faction in the Dragon Age universe that doesn't have it's hands dirty in some way.



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why ya would help Both ? 

 

I dont wanna help the Templar..let me at them is what I wanted  :lol:

 

No, but it's the optimal path. Two forces in your pocket. If the option were there, the chances of you actually helping the Templars, despite your views on them, would be higher because it only serves to better yourself. Because you can only help one, of course you are going to stick with the one you prefer.



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Is it? I am not anti-elf. I mean I don't agree with the Dalish stance on things but I also get that they were kicked around by humans and their insularity arises out of that distrust. There are issues with both sides and I cannot think of a group or a faction in the Dragon Age universe that doesn't have it's hands dirty in some way.

well I can....castless dwarf and city elf  :P 



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well I can....castless dwarf and city elf  :P

 

But those point back to the larger issues within their societies Alexia. That's what I was getting at. They didn't just sprout out of the ground.



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well I can....castless dwarf and city elf  :P

Casteless dwarves have the Carta.



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But those point back to the larger issues within their societies Alexia. That's what I was getting at. They didn't just sprout out of the ground.

sprout of the ground...omg..thats just a cuteeeeeee image now I have ! they be like Vegetable ! brocoli or carrot! from the ground ya mushy smoochie cutie dwarf  :lol: I love it! 



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Casteless dwarves have the Carta.

So...?



#78572
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sprout of the ground...omg..thats just a cuteeeeeee image now I have ! they be like Vegetable ! brocoli or carrot! from the ground ya mushy smoochie cutie dwarf  :lol: I love it! 

 

"Be back later, love. I'm off to water the Elves."  :lol:



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"Be back later, love. I'm off to water the Elves."  :lol:

Bad thats baaaaaaaaaad rakasha  :lol: 


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God damn Short List.

 

Not giving the merchant that one schematic I want.



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This is getting to be a rather uncomfortable place for an elf fan.

im a elf fan and see so far civil debate. just stick with me * gives thumbs up* ill make it fun again :)
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