lol, I wonder if they do smoke elf root in the DA:I universe.
Well... I headcanon that Elfroot doesn't actually heal wounds so much as numb them (narcotic). That's why it works so fast and people can take such a beating and then suddenly drop dead when the health bar is depleted.
So the Inquisition is a merry band of junkies and stoners!
It's explained here.
My PC is 10 years old. It can't handle anything more sophisticated than DOS Box.
I favor the Brush gun myself. Although the Cowboy repeater is so pretty.
I love get Pew-Pew for energy weapons. Shame we can't dual wield. I'd go around shooting legionaries with the Mysterious Magnum and Lucky.
If I absolutely had to pick just one weapon from New Vegas, it would be That Gun: stylish, deadly and has little green lights. 
Chowder?
It's chowdah say it right.
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In other news I've been replaying New Vegas and just finished Dead Money. Got out with all the gold. In your face moral lessons!
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The occasionally crippling bugs maybe?
Oh, you mean these? *not crippling, but still the amount of lol moments
exactly the ones i was refering tooOh, you mean these? *not crippling, but still the amount of lol moments
All right, so I've been analyzing Sera's breakup conversation after the Arbor Wilds again, and I still find it interesting. I think that Sera's being very clever here, but in a way that ultimately hurts her: so sharp she cuts herself. Basically, she's reframing the question of "do you believe in the Temple of Mythal" to "do you believe it's important enough to break up with me over?"
Now, obviously this sort of "if you loved me you'd do X" behavior is emotionally abusive, but I'll give her some slack for this because she's genuinely terrified of the Inquisitor leaving her. Unfortunately, the only responses in this conversation involve playing by Sera's rules in it, and I see no reason why I should. I'm thinking that Sera might accept a response that was a bit angrier, one that made it clear that despite your own faith that you won't repudiate, you want to work this out, instead of just casually dismissing her or dismissing yourself.
Unfortunately, the only responses in this conversation involve playing by Sera's rules in it, and I see no reason why I should.
From what I've seen and heard, you could take the thing to be her saying she doesn't care that you believe, she just wants to hear you say you don't believe. Some measure of security for her, I guess? I dunno. I need to replay Inquisition with each of my two Marisa Lavellan saves, one for Solas and the other for Sera (she's bi but alas, no multi-mancing).
Sera's still in her formative years and she's still questioning a lot of things in the world, so I like to think down the line her views would be better grounded in reality rather then stubbornness.
From what I've seen and heard, you could take the thing to be her saying she doesn't care that you believe, she just wants to hear you say you don't believe. Some measure of security for her, I guess? I dunno. I need to replay Inquisition with each of my two Marisa Lavellan saves, one for Solas and the other for Sera (she's bi but alas, no multi-mancing).
Sera's still in her formative years and she's still questioning a lot of things in the world, so I like to think down the line her views would be better grounded in reality rather then stubbornness.
But saying that shows to Sera that she can get away with this sort of crap, and that doesn't seem healthy.
But saying that shows to Sera that she can get away with this sort of crap, and that doesn't seem healthy.
Sera's not a child who is testing the limits of the Inquisitor's boundaries, like she's some kind of parental figure she has to figure out how much she can manipulate. This is one of her most vulnerable, soft spots, and an Inquisitor who says they don't believe when they do would hopefully be doing it in recognition of that, not just to give in, you know?
Sometimes we compromise ourselves a bit for the people we love. If they're worth it, they don't take advantage of that kind of compassion. I don't think Sera would, tbh, but I can see how a lack of meaningful follow up on that whole kerfuffle might lead someone else to think otherwise.
I understand your frustration with this scene, I do, but I just don't think it's going to be resolved. They didn't put enough into it...not into the scene itself, nor the follow-up, imo, for it to play out in a natural way for the way that I (and it seems like you as well) would play Lavellan.
It's kind of like the scene at the Landsmeet with Alistair in DA:O, except that one makes sense because it happens in a public place, with a ticking clock, and if he leaves, he is g o n e and there is no way to talk to him again.
Sera's not a child who is testing the limits of the Inquisitor's boundaries, like she's some kind of parental figure she has to figure out how much she can manipulate. This is one of her most vulnerable, soft spots, and an Inquisitor who says they don't believe when they do would hopefully be doing it in recognition of that, not just to give in, you know?
Sometimes we compromise ourselves a bit for the people we love. If they're worth it, they don't take advantage of that kind of compassion. I don't think Sera would, tbh, but I can see how a lack of meaningful follow up on that whole kerfuffle might lead someone else to think otherwise.
I understand your frustration with this scene, I do, but I just don't think it's going to be resolved. They didn't put enough into it...not into the scene itself, nor the follow-up, imo, for it to play out in a natural way for the way that I (and it seems like you as well) would play Lavellan.
It's kind of like the scene at the Landsmeet with Alistair in DA:O, except that one makes sense because it happens in a public place, with a ticking clock, and if he leaves, he is g o n e and there is no way to talk to him again.
The problem is that this is not a soft spot that can be dodged once and then never brought up again. This is a long-term issue. I've become Mythal's avatar because I believe that strongly in our cause; I might soften this in conversation if I still want to date Sera, but if she can't abide my dedication... well, she should have brought it up much sooner in the relationship, but simply brushing it aside this once will not work unless it's made clear that my faith isn't the main issue. If it's something random like "Sera thinks that I'll break up with her if she doesn't get vallaslin" or something, then that's all fine and good, but we need to establish that as the issue before we go any further.
Nods, yup, I agree. That's why I think the scene fails because of the lack of follow up. We can't talk to Sera about it afterwards, we can't clarify, we can't offer to compromise or ask what compromises she might be capable of, we can't seek to understand, we get a binary choice and then we don't get to talk about it.
It's sad really, given the complexity of Sera's writing and the relationship in general up to that point, that it gets to that blunt y/n point, but it is what it is, and that's why I just romance her with any other race 
From what I recall, Sera does make an active effort to learn about the Dalish history if you romance her.
Mostly I wonder if part of her is saying such things out of fear. I mean that's probably obvious, but I'm thinking more of fear of her being unable to have certainty. If the Dalish legends are true, and the religion in the Maker is true, and everything is true.... then how do you know for sure what's true or false? How can she have any certainty in her life, if the world is so confusing?
Hell, I think it's less about the beliefs themselves, but more about giving her some sense of what the world is. Something she can accept, for the time being, so that she's not so.... afraid. That she's not feeling so.... distant, to it all? I dunno. I could be rambling. Maybe veeia knows what I'm trying desperately to get at lol.
But I do agree that the lack of meaningful follow-up is rather sad for the romance, because it is one of those things that would be vital to her arc. Her arc is about growth and self-discovery it seems, and without follow-up then the chance to grow and change is stifled as a result.
....I should play the romance though.
Nods, yup, I agree. That's why I think the scene fails because of the lack of follow up. We can't talk to Sera about it afterwards, we can't clarify, we can't offer to compromise or ask what compromises she might be capable of, we can't seek to understand, we get a binary choice and then we don't get to talk about it.
It's sad really, given the complexity of Sera's writing and the relationship in general up to that point, that it gets to that blunt y/n point, but it is what it is, and that's why I just romance her with any other race
I think we need confirmation about a lot of things from Lukas. Does he answer questions?
From what I recall, Sera does make an active effort to learn about the Dalish history if you romance her.
Mostly I wonder if part of her is saying such things out of fear. I mean that's probably obvious, but I'm thinking more of fear of her being unable to have certainty. If the Dalish legends are true, and the religion in the Maker is true, and everything is true.... then how do you know for sure what's true or false? How can she have any certainty in her life, if the world is so confusing?
Hell, I think it's less about the beliefs themselves, but more about giving her some sense of what the world is. Something she can accept, for the time being, so that she's not so.... afraid. That she's not feeling so.... distant, to it all? I dunno. I could be rambling. Maybe veeia knows what I'm trying desperately to get at lol.
But I do agree that the lack of meaningful follow-up is rather sad for the romance, because it is one of those things that would be vital to her arc. Her arc is about growth and self-discovery it seems, and without follow-up then the chance to grow and change is stifled as a result.
....I should play the romance though.
She doesn't freak out about it in the same way if you're not a Dalish, though she does keep calling you stupid.
I think that's part of it, that existential dread. That's why she freaks out on every Inquisitor about it, at least.
But with romanced Lav mostly I think it comes down to fear of being abandoned or rejected. She doesn't have a place with "elfy elves", she's clearly been rejected or hurt by them before. And not just by them, but that is one that stung the most. What's that line she says again? "Say it. Say the other thing. Say that if I wasn't so stupid I'd get it"
Sera's used to never belonging anywhere, especially with elves, and now she's found a place she thinks she might belong and a woman she might belong with, and she's terrified (and has been terrified the entire relationship, but has tried to put it aside) that Lavellan is going to treat her like every other elf has, so when Lav says she does believe it, I really think Sera believes the relationship is already over and she's just begging her to deny it as a last ditch effort because she doesn't want it to be over. So she kind of drives Lav away out of insecurity and fear, which is pretty heartbreaking, and one of the reasons I can't play it, lmao.
I highly doubt Lukas is still around. We haven't heard from him in a long time. (And this thread is barely about Sera half the time)
...I am also holding out hope that some of Sera's elven/magic/etc issues will be addressed in the DLCs...not like, resolved or fixed or whatever, just like...idk, addressed, unpacked, etc more.
What's that line she says again? "Say it. Say the other thing. Say that if I wasn't so stupid I'd get it"
I think possibly that line is the key to understanding that whole scene. It's like the real issue for is that she is afraid of being seen as stupid, or feels insecure or about not understanding or something. I get the impression that Lav having a different belief set isn't the issue, it's the thought of her having something she understands and Sera doesn't that is a problem.
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I get the impression that Lav having a different belief set isn't the issue, it's the thought of her having something she understands and Sera doesn't that is a problem.
Exactly. It's not even restricted to Lavellan romance. The insecurity and lack of feeling good enough for people because she doesn't understand something pops up now and then in her party banter.
I think that's part of it, that existential dread. That's why she freaks out on every Inquisitor about it, at least.
But with romanced Lav mostly I think it comes down to fear of being abandoned or rejected. She doesn't have a place with "elfy elves", she's clearly been rejected or hurt by them before. And not just by them, but that is one that stung the most. What's that line she says again? "Say it. Say the other thing. Say that if I wasn't so stupid I'd get it"
Sera's used to never belonging anywhere, especially with elves, and now she's found a place she thinks she might belong and a woman she might belong with, and she's terrified (and has been terrified the entire relationship, but has tried to put it aside) that Lavellan is going to treat her like every other elf has, so when Lav says she does believe it, I really think Sera believes the relationship is already over and she's just begging her to deny it as a last ditch effort because she doesn't want it to be over. So she kind of drives Lav away out of insecurity and fear, which is pretty heartbreaking, and one of the reasons I can't play it, lmao.
I highly doubt Lukas is still around. We haven't heard from him in a long time. (And this thread is barely about Sera half the time)
The sad thing is that her hypothetical accuser is pretty much right; Sera is being rather stupid here. I understand why, but it's also painfully irksome, because I like stories about the rejected finding acceptance and love in unexpected places. It's just handled so badly here.
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