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[YourFunnyUncle]

Not that I'd really count Liara, she's got this funny Indiana Jones thing going on.

Liara Croft? *badum-tish*

 

I'm sure no one has ever made that joke before.

[SardaukarElite]

I can see the Indy thing, I suppose. And to her credit, she's not a copy of it per se.. she's a unique explorer character in her own right. 

 

I mostly just meant the way that she is primarily an academic who happens to be able fight with comparable ability to humanity's greatest spec-ops solider.

 

That is, in relation to her being delicate and a fighter, I don't really see her character as being a fighter. She can fight because it's a BioWare game and everyone fights no one quits, but her character doesn't really touch on her as a fighter. I'm actually inclined to leave her off missions and think of her as non-squad specialist, as I do with Mordin.

 

I was just using the Liara discussion to say that I'd like to see more women fighters in fiction who aren't Jacks or Arias or Starbucks though. Possibly not entirely relevant.

[WildOrchid]

 

I was just using the Liara discussion to say that I'd like to see more women fighters in fiction who aren't Jacks or Arias or Starbucks though. Possibly not entirely relevant.

 

I need more Aria's in my games. In fact, I need Aria.

[LightningPoodle]

I need more Aria's in my games. In fact, I need Aria.

 

Aria is definitely something. 

[LightningPoodle]

I could have used a whole game just taking place on Omega.

 

That would be pretty cool actually.

[YourFunnyUncle]

 

I mostly just meant the way that she is primarily an academic who happens to be able fight with comparable ability to humanity's greatest spec-ops solider.

 

That is, in relation to her being delicate and a fighter, I don't really see her character as being a fighter. She can fight because it's a BioWare game and everyone fights no one quits, but her character doesn't really touch on her as a fighter. I'm actually inclined to leave her off missions and think of her as non-squad specialist, as I do with Mordin.

I'd agree if she were human, but she's Asari. Even at her young age in Asari terms, she's had more than enough time to work on her biotic abilities. As well as mentioning that she has used them in anger before meeting Shepard, she also mentions after defeating the double-crossing Asari who was working as her associate in ME2 that the other needed to work on her barrier. One can be an accomplished martial artist as well as an academic, and it's not tough to imagine that Liara keeps her biotic skills honed. I wouldn't expect her to be as tactically astute as Shepard, but I see no problem in her being a squad member following Shepard's direction.

 

 

 

I was just using the Liara discussion to say that I'd like to see more women fighters in fiction who aren't Jacks or Arias or Starbucks though. Possibly not entirely relevant.

 

I'd agree on that point. Variety is always interesting.

[WildOrchid]

I could have used a whole game just taking place on Omega.

 

 

At least we got a DLC, kinda sad that it didn't end up like Shadow Broker's ship where you go and talk to Aria and even buy some cool things.

[SardaukarElite]

I'd be pretty keen on ME going all scoundrel, non-military for the next one, with regular trips to Omega and the like. Let us get some spacebuckler going on.

 

I'd agree if she were human, but she's Asari. Even at her young age in Asari terms, she's had more than enough time to work on her biotic abilities. (...)

 

I'm not trying to argue that she shouldn't fight as well as Shepard, my point is that her character isn't depicted as a fighter. The game requires her to fight, and her story includes justification for that - fighting a French archnemesis and Nazis  bandits (I think?) - but her core deals with being an academic and mother issues. Later on there's stuff about the war, but I think would still be applicable to her perspective as a non-combatant.

 

 

I need more Aria's in my games. In fact, I need Aria.

 

Well more women in general should be a thing, so I'm not asking for less Arias.

 

 

I think Bioware has been pretty good on that actually. Cass and Aveline are the lawful good types (albeit with differences), Maybe Ashley too. Still as tough as those above. Sera reminds me of other chaotic good types.. not necessarily women. Someone mentioned Harley Quinn, but I can also see Spider Man. She just has fun with it all.

 

Generally yes. I think Cas and Aveline are great, and Ash is well grounded as a character. Their women soldiers seem fairly similar to a point, though.

[LightningPoodle]

What do you think of my elf? I'm gonna actually complete a play through with this one. 

 

Spoiler

 

Edit:

 

As I suspected, the photo is f*cking huge so it's spoilered for convenience and also in case you think she is ugly and you don't want to look at her. 

[LightningPoodle]

I'd be pretty keen on ME going all scoundrel, non-military for the next one, with regular trips to Omega and the like. Let us get some spacebuckler going on.

 

I don't think we are a military soldier in ME4. It looks and sounds like we will be taking on a more exploratory aspect rather than a militaristic aspect. Of course, we are still going to have guns because guns are pretty neat. 

[YourFunnyUncle]

What do you think of my elf? I'm gonna actually complete a play through with this one. 

 

She looks fine. I'm not keen on strong vallaslin but that's just personal taste, and many here disagree with me on that point. I'd like to see her in action outside of the CC...

[LightningPoodle]

I'll try and get one.

[CrimsonN7]

In one way at least, all straight.

 

Straight gal crushes eh, just the worst!

[Xilizhra]

You find it acceptable to change a character to better suit your own selfish desire. If you were attracted to someone of your sex, and you knew that they had "experiences" with people from the same sex, but aren't attracted to them; if you could, would you change them? That's what you are doing with the character, so what's a human being?

 

Characters are written a certain way, with sexual orientation included. You change a major aspect of who a person is, you change that person.

Why do you keep bringing up physical people when we're talking about a video game?

[LightningPoodle]

Trying to take photos on my phone is bloody torture. Sorry about the sheen. I think it's to do with the lighting in the game rather than the recent patch so when I get a little further into the game, I'll take another.

 

Spoiler

[LightningPoodle]

Why do you keep bringing up physical people when we're talking about a video game?

 

Because those characters were written to be as real as possible. And anyway, this conversation is done. I'm not getting into it again.

[Xilizhra]

Because those characters were written to be as real as possible. And anyway, this conversation is done. I'm not getting into it again.

It only ended because I had to go to sleep. If you wish to withdraw from the argument, of course you can, however.

 

Also, no, I'm not contending that I would use the blood magic powers I don't have to sexually enslave other women. But I will say that Jack should have been a romance option for both to begin with.

[SardaukarElite]

In one way at least, all straight.

 

That certainly. Though I don't think you find out either way with Mhari. Actually wait, don't think about that possibility.

 

That post got trimmed as I ran out of time. I was going to say that they're all fairly... serious, a bit conservative as well. Not that this is a flaw with them mind, just a type they follow.

 

I was also going to add that male soldiers are similarly constrained, though I'm not sure it holds as universally.