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#8101
TheLastSuperSaiyan87

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boy I bet you could use some fried ice cream right now



#8102
Chernaya

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People politely disagreeing with you and backing up their disagreement =/= apeshit. I think you might have overreacted because nobody agreed with you.


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#8103
WildOrchid

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You people do not get it. People going "So what if she look like a dwarf" yes that is the problem! If she looks like a dwarf, which clearly been said before....when she is a elf! That is kinda troublesome. Also would not Bioware have established the darn look on their elfs by now? How many times do they have retcon it?

 

And i'm telling you she doesn't look like a dwarf.

See?

 

LOL @ "she looks a dwarf, therefore she isn't elf". Sorry dude, but she's elf.


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How was this hostile? Are people really that easily offended. Sera looks like a dwarf, Solas like a elven Voldemort and people go apeshit.

 

Solas is a bald elf. An ugly bastard at that too.

 

I just find it hillarious how the newer Bioware fans are so defensively they just ignore any form of criticism but then I see people on twitter crying over this char not being a romance option. So much for ignoring the negativity when it fits them and not.

 

If people get so provoked from some negativity about their favourite character, they got to have some pretty damn good lives with no troubles if this makes them so pissed.

 

She is a short haired, pig nosed, chubby faced dwarf female.

 

And you people wonder why you get called Biodrones.

 

"Hostile" sums it up pretty well.


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#8105
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Can someone post a side by side of Sigrun and Sera? That should help Winterfly see the differences.

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AresKeith

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Just ignore the poster and move on, no need to continue



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People politely disagreeing with you and backing up their disagreement =/= apeshit. I think you might have overreacted because nobody agreed with you.

"So what if looks like a dwarf?"

"Just ignore"

 

Yeah, thats some proper commentary. That would last for long in a seminary at the university. Valid counter arguement.

 

 

And i'm telling you she doesn't look like a dwarf.

See?

 

LOL @ "she looks a dwarf, therefore she isn't elf". Sorry dude, but she's elf.

 

 

And why do she have to look like a dwarf? Look up DAII and DA:O, she is no elf. If anything she is half-elf the way she looks. Either that or Bioware changed the elven look again or the person who makes the models should finish fixing her.



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And why do she have to look like a dwarf? Look up DAII and DA:O, she is no elf. If anything she is half-elf the way she looks. Either that or Bioware changed the elven look again or the person who makes the models should finish fixing her.

 

That's your own opinion. She's not a dwarf and doesn't look like one.



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TheLastSuperSaiyan87

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Guys stop feeding the troll



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boy I bet you could use some fried ice cream right now


Ooooh, yes.

Yes, I could. I don't even care that this wasn't addressed to me. I could use some mother****ing fried ice cream right now.
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Xilizhra

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The thread is about her right? Do I have to pat people on the back and say their beloved little char is awesome? The thread is about her no? If people get so provoked from some negativity about their favourite character, they got to have some pretty damn good lives with no troubles if this makes them so pissed.

 

She is a short haired, pig nosed, chubby faced dwarf female.

Oh, hey, an elf.

Cammen_DA_wiki.jpg


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Oh, hey, an elf.

Cammen_DA_wiki.jpg

 

 

Yah, taking up a minor character from Dragon Age Origins? And yet he looks more elven and less dwarven than Sera.



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...Either that or Bioware changed the elven look again....

 

Congratulations, you've finally noticed.

 

Note that this change makes elves look more like humans again, though, rather than making them (or rather, just Sera apparently) look like dwarves.  Because, y'know, no one else seems to really think she does.  You restating that opinion won't change everyone else's opinion on it, any more than everyone else restating the opposite opinion will change-

 

Oh.  Well, never mind then.



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How was this hostile? Are people really that easily offended. Sera looks like a dwarf, Solas like a elven Voldemort and people go apeshit.

 

An opinion that some people don't share. Such a shock, I know. Opinions on an internet forum.


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#8115
Winterfly

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Congratulations, you've finally noticed.

 

Note that this change makes elves look more like humans again, though, rather than making them (or rather, just Sera apparently) look like dwarves.  Because, y'know, no one else seems to really think she does.  You restating that opinion won't change everyone else's opinion on it, any more than everyone else restating the opposite opinion will change-

 

Oh.  Well, never mind then.

 

Least you can confess Bioware should had this freaking done by now. Retconning in absurdum like they done with this series is a bit to much. What was wrong with the old elven? I liked the tall, slender, odd shaped alien like elfs of DA2. Why change them again to these...yeah well if I say something negative someone will cry.



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 Spoiler: Sera is Oghren's half-sister because I say so.



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Oh, hey, an elf.

Cammen_DA_wiki.jpg

 

That's not elf, that's a dwarf. According to Winterfly here.



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As someone who severely disliked the Rice-Krispy-Breakfast-Cereal Elves of DA2 and the uninspired design in Origins, I'll say that so far they look pretty great in Inquisition. Given that Elves is a fictional race, originally stemming from Germanic folkore, and have been broadly defined between various works of literature and culture, it's hard to say what an "elf" is supposed to look like. I suppose most people would derive their image of elves from Tolkien, since he defined them as tree commuters, shooting bows and arrows, which is seemingly the status quo for all modern epic fantasy scenarios. In that respect, I'd say these elves, Sera and the Inquisitor alike, look fine to me.
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AresKeith

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Yeah whatever you say. She sure look like the elves in Kirkwall or the others around Thedas we seen. Or not.

 

Maybe because they got a redesign again



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Yah, taking up a minor character from Dragon Age Origins? And yet he looks more elven and less dwarven than Sera.

I think our issue, overall, is us being confused about why Sera's looks are, instead of simply being not to your taste, some kind of character sin by Bioware. Or is this some sort of objection to the overall elven redesign? In which case it'd have little to do with Sera directly.

 

Also, I think the only thing Solas has in common with Voldemort is baldness, and that just requires inclination to shave, nothing physical.


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AresKeith

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As someone who severely disliked the Rice-Krispy-Breakfast-Cereal Elves of DA2 and the uninspired design in Origins, I'll say that so far they look pretty great in Inquisition. Given that Elves is a fictional race, originally stemming from Germanic folkore, and have been broadly defined between various works of literature and culture, it's hard to say what an "elf" is supposed to look like. I suppose most people would derive their image of elves from Tolkien, since he defined him as tree commuters, shooting bows and arrows, which is seemingly the status quo for all modern epic fantasy scenarios. In the respect, I'd say these elves, Sera and the Inquisitor alike, look fine to me.  

 

That makes me wonder, are Elves considered the best archers in Dragon Age?



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 Spoiler: Sera is Oghren's half-sister because I say so.

THis is the only comment I can agree with in here.



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That makes me wonder, are Elves considered the best archers in Dragon Age?

Probably in the same way Dwaves make the best beer in Dragon Age.



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This is an Elf:

 

Spoiler

 

 

There isn't exactly a consensus on what they are supposed to look like.


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That makes me wonder, are Elves considered the best archers in Dragon Age?

 

Well, many games and books do consider elves as the best archers overall because of good eyesight so yeah...