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#8176
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*Sera get revealed to be gated against humans AND Dalish*

 

:devil:

Huh, she likes big boned folk, does she? :P



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The air being the achievement list, right? :P


The achievement list is my romance of choice, and she doesn't even care if I see other people.
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#8178
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Well im off to bed. You folks have fun discussing your favourite d....elf! ;)

 

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*Sera get revealed to be gated against humans AND Dalish*

 

:devil:

 

1 out of 4 is still pretty good



#8180
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I normally play human warrior first so I hope she likes humans.

#8181
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Low quality vid was here~



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#8183
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I am not sure what this is.



#8184
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*signs on to bioware forums, confused as to why some threads i've subscribed to aren't showing up, then gets really excited when seeing the sera thread being active...so let down*



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How does Sera not look like an elf?

She has square face, square jaw and broad nose with short hair. Pointy ears are not enough to be considered as an elf I'm afraid.

 

People are going to compare Sera with other elves and that comparison wouldn't be in her favour.

 

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So what if she looks like a dwarf?

A female elf looks like a dwarf, nothing to see here, move along.



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Why do people keep saying "short hair" like that has anything to do with being an elf or dwarf?  :huh:


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#8187
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I think Sera's the character I'm looking forward to the most in this game. Everything I see about her makes me like her more.. I really don't see how she looks like a dwarf (and can't believe there was actually a multi-page argument about it).

 

I wonder how she'll feel about the different cultures (such as the Dalish, Qunari, and human commoners).


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#8188
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Sera's face is gorgeous, she looks unique and I love that she does!


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#8189
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Iron Bull disagrees. He doesn't see her nearly as dense as Dwarves. :P



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She has square face, square jaw and broad nose with short hair. Pointy ears are not enough to be considered as an elf I'm afraid.

 

A female elf looks like a dwarf, nothing to see here, move along.

 

Short hair is irrelevant.  I think it's an absurd critique as though elves for some reason are not able to cut their hair or something.

 

No, Sera doesn't look like Liv Tyler.  Must all elves look like Liv Tyler?

 

 

Here's a depiction of an elf:

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I don't think she looks anything like Sigrun.  Or any other dwarf.  Even with her rounded face, it's still a slender face and a slender body type.

 

 

Sorry, when I see something like this, I don't see a dwarf at all:

 

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Perhaps, finally, we have an engine where we're able to better allow greater degrees of freedom in what we want our characters to look like?  Perhaps elves have a wide variety of faces, just like humans do?  Because why not?


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#8191
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Yes!  Diversity please!  Thankyouverymuch.  It's Sera's model that actually made me think "hmmm I think I'll be able to play as an Elf!", she's slender but not skinny and I love that so much.



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Short hair is irrelevant.  I think it's an absurd critique as though elves for some reason are not able to cut their hair or something.

 

No, Sera doesn't look like Liv Tyler.  Must all elves look like Liv Tyler?

 

 

Here's a depiction of an elf:

Spoiler

 

 

I don't think she looks anything like Sigrun.  Or any other dwarf.  Even with her rounded face, it's still a slender face and a slender body type.

 

 

Sorry, when I see something like this, I don't see a dwarf at all:

 

Spoiler

 

 

Perhaps, finally, we have an engine where we're able to better allow greater degrees of freedom in what we want our characters to look like?  Perhaps elves have a wide variety of faces, just like humans do?  Because why not?

 

Nordic mythology disagree.

 

"However, some generalisations are possible. In medieval Germanic-speaking cultures, elves seem generally to have been thought of as a group of beings with magical powers and supernatural beauty, ambivalent towards everyday people and capable of either helping or hindering them."

 

And since im from the Nordic region. I say you are wrong with the gnome like elf. That is not the elf from our mythology which Tolkien from what I remember, got inspired by. But I presume you at Bioware went for santas little helper or garden gnomes when you designed Sera.

"The "Christmas elves" of contemporary popular culture are of relatively recent tradition, popularized during the late nineteenth-century in the United States"

I still say her face is more  dwarven than elven and she looks clumsy in many screenshots. Not the graceful and agile elf.
 

And are you telling me the Unreal engine is not "good" enough for Bioware "Artist integrity"? We saw how that worked out in Mass Effect 3's ending when you guys moved Karpyshyn to ToR. The best writer Bioware had of late.



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Perhaps, finally, we have an engine where we're able to better allow greater degrees of freedom in what we want our characters to look like?  Perhaps elves have a wide variety of faces, just like humans do?  Because why not?

 

NOOOOOO don't you dare trying to shake things up ! I want my elves to be all the same with no variation at all !

 


I still say her face is more  dwarven than elven and she looks clumsy in many screenshots. Not the graceful and agile elf.

 

LOL I'm sure Sera cares very much about being graceful :lol:


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Nordic mythology disagree.

 

"However, some generalisations are possible. In medieval Germanic-speaking cultures, elves seem generally to have been thought of as a group of beings with magical powers and supernatural beauty, ambivalent towards everyday people and capable of either helping or hindering them."

 

And since im from the Nordic region. I say you are wrong with the gnome like elf. That is not the elf from our mythology which Tolkien from what I remember, got inspired by. But I presume you at Bioware went for santas little helper or garden gnomes when you designed Sera.

"The "Christmas elves" of contemporary popular culture are of relatively recent tradition, popularized during the late nineteenth-century in the United States"

I still say her face is more  dwarven than elven and she looks clumsy in many screenshots. Not the graceful and agile elf.
 

 

And as a Scandinavian I must respectfully disagree. Our mythology have nothing to do with the elves of Thedas. The only thing that matters is what Bioware consider to be a Thedosian elf. 


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Nordic mythology disagree.

 

"However, some generalisations are possible. In medieval Germanic-speaking cultures, elves seem generally to have been thought of as a group of beings with magical powers and supernatural beauty, ambivalent towards everyday people and capable of either helping or hindering them."

 

And since im from the Nordic region. I say you are wrong with the gnome like elf. That is not the elf from our mythology which Tolkien from what I remember, got inspired by. But I presume you at Bioware went for santas little helper or garden gnomes when you designed Sera.

"The "Christmas elves" of contemporary popular culture are of relatively recent tradition, popularized during the late nineteenth-century in the United States"

I still say her face is more  dwarven than elven and she looks clumsy in many screenshots. Not the graceful and agile elf.
 

And are you telling me the Unreal engine is not "good" enough for Bioware "Artist integrity"? We saw how that worked out in Mass Effect 3's ending when you guys moved Karpyshyn to ToR. The best writer Bioware had of late.

I was unaware that Dragon Age had to adhere to Nordic mythology... The more you know, I guess.....


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And as a Scandinavian I must respectfully disagree. Our mythology have nothing to do with the elves of Thedas. The only thing that matters is what Bioware consider to be a Thedosian elf. 

 

Of course not, not when you go for the christmas elf look mixed with some dwarven and classic elf. 



#8197
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I was unaware that Dragon Age had to adhere to Nordic mythology... The more you know, I guess.....

 

Just saying, the elf Tolkien got inspired by which more or less set it in stone. Today.



#8198
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Just saying, the elf Tolkien got inspired by which more or less set it in stone. Today.

And exactly what relevance does the Elves of an entirely different franchise hold to the Elves of this franchise?



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Just saying, the elf Tolkien got inspired by which more or less set it in stone. Today.

 

Maker forbid trying to break the mold !


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Whatever you say! Have fun in your Dragon Age Skyrim Edition with your garden gnomes and bullfighters.