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[YourFunnyUncle]

I was gonna add one other thing.

 

Hawke as a merc is much more believable than Inquisitor merc. The story just flows better even on this small detail.

 

All you're doing is impressing Varric and your history in the past year. And the only goal is a humble one: earn some cash for the Expedition.

 

 

Here, a Merc is impressing everyone and boosted to godhood, social/political dictator status in under an hour.

Something massively weird happened. You were the only one to walk out of it alive, and then were the only one who had the power to help stabilise the aftermath. That's pretty impressive in my book. If you accept the anchor getting embedded in your hand as feasible, then the rest is actually a pretty standard response given the prevailing belief system in Thedas, I think. 

 

As a warrior you're not particularly more powerful than those around you, but you have the ability to fix stuff that no one else can. Some people believe you to be divinely touched, and some don't. That seems normal given the events. I don't get your incredulity at the situation, to be honest. They even say that you can walk away, but it wouldn't be much of a game if you actually did that, would it?

 

Hawke was just a person. The Inquisitor has a green magic glowing thing stuck in their hand. Obviously the situation is going to be different. You're thrust into the spotlight. It's a different situation again from the Warden, who doesn't have any organisation left surrounding them or any special powers beyond being alive and a warden, and so has to build more slowly to begin with. That's what I like. It's a different story each time. Not just re-treads of the same ideas.

[raging_monkey]

I'm liking X1. Probably will get a PS4 sooner or later, but this is the first time I could do without another console.

is the controller recharge or batteries again.... cause i have a ton of AA

[raging_monkey]

My incredulity starts small, but builds up when I start thinking of all the character options. Some Inquisitors are a little more believable than others, but the fact that they all share the same powers and fate just kind of makes me dismiss all of them. It doesn't matter if you're religious or a mage or whatever. A Carta Dwarf can use some rift magic too and dictate terms to the Chantry... he could not give a crap about any of it, and he's still the Holy One. And that ruins everyone else to me too.
 
 


 
rechargable/detacheable battery. Just uses a USB plug into the console.

thank andraste's busom AAbatteries are expensive

[YourFunnyUncle]

 

My incredulity starts small, but builds up when I start thinking of all the character options. Some Inquisitors are a little more believable than others, but the fact that they all share the same powers and fate just kind of makes me dismiss all of them. It doesn't matter if you're religious or a mage or whatever. A Carta Dwarf can use some rift magic too and dictate terms to the Chantry... he could not give a crap about any of it, and he's still the Holy One. And that ruins everyone else to me too.

See that's why I like it. It doesn't matter who you were, you're thrown into this fate by the cursed mark on your hand. There are different reactions toward you based on your race, but in the end you're the only person in the world who can do anything about the rifts, so you have to get on with it or watch the world burn. It's like anti-Hawke. Instead of building up your power, trying to change the world and finding that your efforts don't really change anything, you're thrust into the limelight and forced to change the world whether you like it or not. As I say, I appreciate the variety.

[raging_monkey]

Well DA2 showed how people are stupid in general(technically extreme) so its not really a big leap

[YourFunnyUncle]

I especially don't like it because our characters bring nothing to the table to make any of it possible. It's all going to happen anyways, because it's dependent on other people's beliefs.

 

And that in itself annoys me too. It's almost like a commentary on how stupid people with faith are or something. That might be popular on BSN, but I find it a little offensive.

I'd say that there's a lot of criticism of dogmatic faith, but the game is quite sympathetic to personal faith.

[raging_monkey]

lol.. So you're saying it's equal opportunity on calling out "stupid".
 
 
I guess that makes me feel a little better.

as my sister says "bro we are equal opprotunity haters... call out the BS" then she'd say tunnel

[raging_monkey]

Only in Cassandra's case, I think. That and your early opponents. Like the Chantry mother at Orlais.
 
As a whole, they're ignoring that people of faith can possess critical thinking skills. That they can say to themselves.. "Wait.. a minute... this doesn't seem right.." Instead they're unquestioning and fall on their knees.

thats been constant and they are so far up their arse they couldnt if they tried(barring plot characters)

[YourFunnyUncle]

Only in Cassandra's case, I think. That and your early opponents. Like the Chantry mother at Orlais.

 

As a whole, they're ignoring that people of faith can possess critical thinking skills. That they can say to themselves.. "Wait a minute... this doesn't seem right.." Instead they're unquestioning and fall on their knees. 

 

It would help me more if our own characters caused some of this.

But they aren't, are they? The ones around you are the ones who have stayed or come because they believe, but the chantry higher-ups don't automatically flock to your side, and neither does anyone else. It's not like you suddenly have an army of millions.

[raging_monkey]

Well kool-aide is good so...
But the inquisition is a nuetral party trying to restore order

[Basement Cat]

But they aren't, are they? The ones around you are the ones who have stayed or come because they believe, but the chantry higher-ups don't automatically flock to your side, and neither does anyone else. It's not like you suddenly have an army of millions.

Good thing too because feeding an army that size... Yikes!

 

Not to mention what rations were likely to be in such a setting...

 

Spoiler

 

Hardtack. Soldiers of the American Civil War apparently referred to those biscuits as 'worm castles'. Ick.

[YourFunnyUncle]

That tension is cool for awhile, but you eventually have the Chantry in your grip too. Even getting to say who gets to be Divine (regardless of the choices..which are pretty good.. just the fact that the Inquisitor matters this much means the Chantry drank the kool-aid too). 

No... it means that they accepted the political situation. That's what I mean about dogmatic faith vs personal faith. Those closest to the truth don't necessarily believe what they tell the masses. Sometimes they lie for what they perceive to be the greater good, and sometimes they do it for personal gain. If you're the believing guy on the street, especially in that sort of society, you simply don't have access to the information you need to make an informed critical decision. It doesn't necessarily mean that the leaders are bad people or lack personal faith, as evidenced by Cass and Leliana.

[YourFunnyUncle]

It's all very cynical....

Welcome to human history.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Some of it is quite charming.

 

I'm a romantic anyways. Not a cynic.

I'm neither. I'm a realist who strives to promote human decency at the expense of the arseholes.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Good enough for me. 

I should perhaps say that personally that although I call myself an atheist I am not anti-faith. I'm anti dogma, and that doesn't have to be religious. I don't like political or economic dogma either. I don't like inflexibility of thinking, and if I believe in anything it's that we continually need to reassess ideas as a society in the face of whatever challenges, situations and new evidence we encounter. Sticking to something "because we've always done that" is one of the worst reasons to do anything, IMO.

 

If you believe in a creator or an afterlife or whatever, that doesn't bother me at all, as long as you're tolerant and open to change.