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#84126
raging_monkey

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That's what Napoleon thought too. :P

and he did for a while :P... wait that dig my height :angry: :lol:

The MP characters are all great. There's one character that's super rah rah Inquisition (the Templar), but by and large the group has complex feelings about it...a lot of doubt, anxiety, apathy, etc. It's way more interesting than those faceless crowds that cheer for you and need to be "protected by hope" or whatever. I don't like DAMP but the banter is fantastic.

i like cillian the most has my thoughts on the matter

#84127
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Does this read better? Uncle mentioned that it would sound better with "Yer all loonies" compared to "You all are nuts" because of her use of British lingo.

 

Spoiler


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#84128
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I played SW. I freaking loved it. THERE WONT BE A HEART LEFT BEATING.

#84129
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the City Elf is no less entitled to that knowledge. It's like saying Black Americans would be less entitled to an ancient scroll from Kemet than Africans would be. There is no division. We are from the same lineage...we wouldn't hoard the knowledge...it is meant to be shared. all of it.
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#84130
AlexiaRevan

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I played SW. I freaking loved it. THERE WONT BE A HEART LEFT BEATING.

Then Try a LS Warrior.,..that too is fun! make all jedi look at ya funny!  :lol: 



#84131
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I played SW. I freaking loved it. THERE WONT BE A HEART LEFT BEATING.

I have one, and an Inquisitor, but am adamantly light-sided. I think, in part, that it's because there's never any game that I've ever seen in which the "evil" options have been interesting.



#84132
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My favorite is Luka, lmao, she's such a loony. But Cillian's cool, he's like a more palatable version of Solas. :lol:
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#84133
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Dark much vee lol... i gotta finish JC so i can try SW

#84134
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The ancient elves failed the Dalish by remaining in selfish seclusion.

 

 

Why's that?

 

 

see...this touches too close to real world things for me. i can't honestly say i'd be cool with my human inquisitor...or any other inquisitor that isn't Dalish drinking from that well. Sure once they've had access to it, share the knowledge. But i can't go in that temple and deny them that right and access to it first. i only trust it in Morrigan's hands when I'm not playing as Lavellan.

And also, it doesn't matter what that history is...even negative...it is their history...they deserve to know it first and foremost. i honestly can't see why this is debatable. :unsure:

 

Because the only real link between the Dalish and an ancient culture, they understand about as much as other cultures in modern Thedas do, is pointy ears and that's just not enough of an argument to me for the Dalish to just have first crack and sole rights to a treasure.

 

Alexia also asks a good question: what about non-Dalish elves? 

 

Cat made a valid point: This is the equivalent of finding an ancient library of pre-modern France in France and believing you have sole right to it because your French. 

 

It's also exactly why Egyptian Islamists have no right to threaten to destroy the Pyramids of Giza or Afghan Taliban members to damage ancient Buddhist temples in Afghanistan just because they might be Egyptians or Afghani's who do the destruction. When they do that they destroy a part of the heritage of all of mankind.


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Oh KS, I agree with you. It's awesome to play a ruthless, power hungry character. That's what RP is all about to me, being able to play a variety of characters. I just wish the game had called it what it was, lmao, instead of having everyone kiss your ass no matter what you did. Made my noble and ruthless PTs way too similar.

 

Yeah, I was surprised at how much my advisors loved me at the end.

 

I was like "I did terrible things and made this organization do terrible things, why are you all so snuggly towards me?"



#84136
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Ya wanna Play a fun evil ? make an Inquisitor in swtor....and ZAP! its soooooo much fun  :lol:

 

SWTOR? Never played. I know y'all talk about it a lot, but can't remember what it stands for.

 

Star Wars, right?



#84137
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the City Elf is no less entitled to that knowledge. It's like saying Black Americans would be less entitled to an ancient scroll from Kemet than Africans would be. There is no division. We are from the same lineage...we wouldn't hoard the knowledge...it is meant to be shared. all of it.

hmm interesting makes my view seem crude

#84138
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Yeah, I was surprised at how much my advisors loved me at the end.

 

I was like "I did terrible things and made this organization do terrible things, why are you all so snuggly towards me?"

Maybe ya are just so snuggly.... :whistle: 


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What do you have to do to get Cass drinking and sad?

 

I could never do that... but it sounds like one case where they respond well.



#84140
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There's no CE available to take that knowledge, so a debate there is only hypothetical. I wouldn't be opposed to Briala being the other choice instead of Morrigan though, in fact, given that she's also an Eluvian expert and in the game, I'm baffled as to why she wasn't involved in that plotline. A debate between her and Lavellan about that would be fascinating.
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#84141
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My favorite is Luka, lmao, she's such a loony. But Cillian's cool, he's like a more palatable version of Solas. :lol:

ikr his humor is far better

#84142
AlexiaRevan

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SWTOR? Never played. I know y'all talk about it a lot, but can't remember what it stands for.

It stand for Sapian want to orally Rage ! 

 

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Kidding! its Star Wars of the Old Repbulic ! 


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#84143
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What do you have to do to get Cass drinking and sad?
 
I could never do that... but it sounds like one case where they respond well.

think its approval related

#84144
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So I'm guessing yes seeing as it's getting likes. Now, before I send it off to Natashina, can you please mention any recommendations. I don't want to have to have to send off another version.  :P



#84145
AlexiaRevan

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So I'm guessing yes seeing as it's getting likes. Now, before I send it off to Natashina, can you please mention any recommendations. I don't want to have to have to send off another version.  :P

None from me..it look good ! 



#84146
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Because one person seizing that much power in general is horrifying to me. At the end of Inquisition, you can have a leader who puppetmaster rules Orlais, is the vessel for all elven knowledge, ended the Mage/Templar war by forcing a side into servitude, exiled one of the oldest orders in the world (wardens), leads the largest and most effective organization which they claim by divine right, and is close friends with and a former boss of, the only other large organization in the world (the chantry). That's a recipe for a despot, even a well meaning one....and sure, your Quizzie may have rainbows coming out their ass and they may be a perfect leader who listens and allocates responsibility, but ... Idk. It bothers me, especially in a game that is often about doubt and the flaws in organizations that are top down like that (Wardens, Seekers, for example)

I was saying just yesterday that I think that one reason they'll move he next game north is to give southern Thedas time to "regress to the mean" a little after the events of Inquisition. I reckon they'll give it ten or twenty years game-time to come back and invent some reason for the Inquisition to lose some power and other organisations to rebuild during that period.


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#84147
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think its approval related

 

Ah yeah, stupid question.

 

I just wondered if she points out anything in particular.. 



#84148
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think its approval related

Yep, get low enough approval with her and she starts hitting the bottle pretty hard. The dialog does change based on what you did to make her that pissed. But, this does pretty much sum it up. 



#84149
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So I'm guessing yes seeing as it's getting likes. Now, before I send it off to Natashina, can you please mention any recommendations. I don't want to have to have to send off another version.  :P

not til the end of bussiness :P

#84150
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not til the end of bussiness :P

 

Okay, I'll let it sit for a while then.