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I can get behind that. Actually, now that I think about it... Merrill kind of fits; well, despite her being a woman and me not being a woman, but we can't all be perfect now can we.


So, Merrill was a serious comparison then?

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And Lady! I settled for Joker because... reasons. ;)


LOL! You mean me or the other lady?

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I'm also the the poster most likely to give up and leave everyone to die, I mean um, I'm a brilliant strategist, yes that's it.


That means you're also the most likely to get your head chopped off! :wizard:
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LOL! You mean me or the other lady?

 

The other Lady. God, why would I want to ever talk to you...?  :P  :lol:

 

That was a joke.



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Hello Sera thread, it's been a while, but I thought I could check on you. And thank you for a nice welcome ;) .



It's sis, actually :P .



Undoubtedly ;)

Spoiler


Anyway, I'm about to storm the Arbor Wilds and...I think it will be interesting. I thought I won't let my Adaar drink from the well, but I'm afraid she will be like:"Moar power, yay :devil: !" *throws Morrigan out of her way* I'm guessing very important factor here will be Sera :whistle: .
Yes, this will be interesting.

I also remade my mage Adaar, it turned out there was something wrong with my eyesight, because she wasn't as hot and sexy as I thought :sick: . But I'm really happy with her now. I've been thinking about the spec I'll pick for her. I wanted to try necro, but I'm affraid she is not the type, sadly. I already tried KE which leaves only Rift Mage. So I wonder, is Rift Mage fun to play? Any useful tips? :)

I'll be back soon with some pics of my Adaar and her butt full of arrows :P . Have fun and also ...
...Sera <3
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Welcome. ^^

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It's bugging me as well. I checked IMDB and the wiki but apparently whoever it is is only listed under 'additional voices'. He reminds me of the hunger demon in DA2's Deep Roads, but it might just be the same demony style.


I read that Nightmare is also voiced by Corypheus' voice actor David Sterne. I have no proof but am willing to believe it because I think they sound very similar.



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The other Lady. God, why would I want to ever talk to you...? :P :lol:

That was a joke.

yer loss, buddy. *throws hair over shoulder as a heavenly glow is behind me*

Lol
But seriously. someone compared me to Harley Quinn. And I was like " wtf maybe I should stop and look at my choices in life?" XD
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yer loss, buddy. *throws hair over shoulder as a heavenly glow is behind me*

Lol
But seriously. someone compared me to Harley Quinn. And I was like " wtf maybe I should stop and look at my choices in life?" XD

 

Harley isn't that terrible a comparison. You have a great sense of humour, you look good in red and you're not afraid to get your hands dirty.



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I finished Korra, Book 4 is amazing, it has everything.

 

Its a bit of a play on a movie called The Princess Bride.

 

Which is a great film.

 

That means you're also the most likely to get your head chopped off! :wizard:

 

Your enthusiasm for this is touching. Really, I'm moved.

 

 

I read that Nightmare is also voiced by Corypheus' voice actor David Sterne. I have no proof but am willing to believe it because I think they sound very similar.

 

Oh hey that would make sense.


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yer loss, buddy. *throws hair over shoulder as a heavenly glow is behind me*

Lol
But seriously. someone compared me to Harley Quinn. And I was like " wtf maybe I should stop and look at my choices in life?" XD

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Andraste's knickers, this thread updates at a ferocious rate!!  :o I'd simply like to state that pizza is awesome, and pineapple is totally acceptable on one. Especially when mixed with ham and mushrooms. :P
 

Thank you for the dialogue. I didn't say that the other banter necessary meant she must have had sexual experience with men (and if it was supposed to mean that, I hope the writer understands it couldn't be enjoyable for her no matter how well the man behaved in bed since she's supposed to be lesbian, so she couldn't give such advice based on her experience).

I just suspect it was written without much thinking about all those nuances. And your friends live in era when we're bombarded by sex-related stuff, particularly straight kind, with advices about bettering (straight) sex life in almost every women's magazine. Somehow I doubt that's the case in reality Sera lives in.

 

And that banter about Sera seducing a man for joke, up to the point of almost having sex with him, shows larger problem. On itself it just made me roll my eyes, but then I found out that Bioware writers made the only other confirmed lesbian character in this game, Empress Celene, do this for real, seduce a man and leave him naked and in bondage, leaving for player's imagination what happened before that point, despite unlimited possibilities she had to handle it different way, without humiliating herself like that.

And all of that after making Traynor in ME3 a fanservice for male player characters, a tease that 'innocently' kept displaying her charms in face of poor confused Shepard.

 

Judging from those depictions, one could guess that lesbians according to Bioware are apparently vixens up to seducing poor unsuspecting straight men just to play with them for their own enjoyment.

 

 

I saw a lot of this discussion when flicking around the various pages of this thread. There were loads I wanted to quote, but I can't find them, so this helps nicely. I've seen here (and heard elsewhere) a lot being made of the fact Sera seems to imply that she has/would theoretically go all the way with a man. There's a couple of different questions raised there.

 

I guess the main question I want to ask is: If Sera has ever been with a guy, does it matter...? As a gay woman who is of the "gold star" variety, I see an awful lot of hostility amongst lesbians towards women who aren't. I mean in general, not necessarily here. If a woman sleeps with men before she realises/can bring herself to accept that she only likes women, is she any less entitled to identify as a lesbian? IMHO no, not at all. And heaven forbid if a woman is actually bi...  :rolleyes: Now I know Sera isn't intended to be bi, so that's a different point entirely. It's just a personal bugbear of mine how bi women are treated by gay women sometimes, but I'll spare you that rant.  ;)

 

OTOH I completely understand the need for representation, and accurate representation at that. I never played as BroShep so I can't add too much to your comment about Traynor there, but as a female I've never had an issue with her portrayal. Celene is more problematic, I very much agree. 

 

So is it the fact that Sera is Word of Godded as gay, and presents as such in game, so therefore anything ambiguous like this should have been left out of the writing? I find Blackwall about as interesting as drying paint half the time, so he never makes my party. Purely reading the dialogues, though, it's possible Sera is possibly taking it from the angle of how to please a woman and is actually taking a dig at the stereotype of male attitudes to straight sex...? 


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yer loss, buddy. *throws hair over shoulder as a heavenly glow is behind me*

Lol
But seriously. someone compared me to Harley Quinn. And I was like " wtf maybe I should stop and look at my choices in life?" XD

Hey! That 'heavenly glow' is from your microwave! Quit using your appliances as props, or you'll end up with this:

 

How-to-Burn-800-Calories-in-30-Minutes.j


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Andraste's knickers, this thread updates at a ferocious rate!!  :o I'd simply like to state that pizza is awesome, and pineapple is totally acceptable on one. Especially when mixed with ham and mushrooms. :P
 
 

 

I saw a lot of this discussion when flicking around the various pages of this thread. There were loads I wanted to quote, but I can't find them, so this helps nicely. I've seen here (and heard elsewhere) a lot being made of the fact Sera seems to imply that she has/would theoretically go all the way with a man. There's a couple of different questions raised there.

 

I guess the main question I want to ask is: If Sera has ever been with a guy, does it matter...? As a gay woman who is of the "gold star" variety, I see an awful lot of hostility amongst lesbians towards women who aren't. I mean in general, not necessarily here. If a woman sleeps with men before she realises/can bring herself to accept that she only likes women, is she any less entitled to identify as a lesbian? IMHO no, not at all. And heaven forbid if a woman is actually bi...  :rolleyes: Now I know Sera isn't intended to be bi, so that's a different point entirely. It's just a personal bugbear of mine how bi women are treated by gay women sometimes, but I'll spare you that rant.  ;)

 

OTOH I completely understand the need for representation, and accurate representation at that. I never played as BroShep so I can't add too much to your comment about Traynor there, but as a female I've never had an issue with her portrayal. Celene is more problematic, I very much agree. 

 

So is it the fact that Sera is Word of Godded as gay, and presents as such in game, so therefore anything ambiguous like this should have been left out of the writing? I find Blackwall about as interesting as drying paint half the time, so he never makes my party. Purely reading the dialogues, though, it's possible Sera is possibly taking it from the angle of how to please a woman and is actually taking a dig at the stereotype of male attitudes to straight sex...? 

 

 

I like you, I'm glad you've decided to come back! <3

 

I have no problem with women discovering offline that they only like women after experimentation with men, I think the issue comes into the game because it muddies the waters a bit. 

 

I know a number of players whose only interaction with LBTQ is in game only, because they've never met an out person in their personal life. So I sometimes worry that these players are getting the wrong impressions from certain characters being written in a way that could be taken as them being bi. Nothing wrong with bi either, but that's not Sera's character. 

 

I don't know if I'm making any sense, so feel free to stop me. 


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Hey! That 'heavenly glow' is from your microwave! Quit using your appliances as props, or you'll end up with this:

 

How-to-Burn-800-Calories-in-30-Minutes.j

 

That poor, poor pizza. 



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Harley isn't that terrible a comparison. You have a great sense of humour, you look good in red and you're not afraid to get your hands dirty.

 

but she's kinda of also an abused psychopath? 

 

so I'm just going to assume that the person compared me to the good qualities  :lol:



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that reminds me, the series finale is today :(

 

Hey! That 'heavenly glow' is from your microwave! Quit using your appliances as props, or you'll end up with this:

 

How-to-Burn-800-Calories-in-30-Minutes.j

 

...I actually want to try it?

 

U don't kno me!

 

I'm actually taking the recommendation from ks seriously. as in cleaning the microwave every two weeks. :wizard:


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...I actually want to try it?

 

U don't kno me!

 

I'm actually taking the recommendation from ks seriously. as in cleaning the microwave every two weeks. :wizard:

 

This makes me happy. <3

 

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Andraste's knickers, this thread updates at a ferocious rate!!  :o I'd simply like to state that pizza is awesome, and pineapple is totally acceptable on one. Especially when mixed with ham and mushrooms. :P
 
 
 
I saw a lot of this discussion when flicking around the various pages of this thread. There were loads I wanted to quote, but I can't find them, so this helps nicely. I've seen here (and heard elsewhere) a lot being made of the fact Sera seems to imply that she has/would theoretically go all the way with a man. There's a couple of different questions raised there.
 
I guess the main question I want to ask is: If Sera has ever been with a guy, does it matter...? As a gay woman who is of the "gold star" variety, I see an awful lot of hostility amongst lesbians towards women who aren't. I mean in general, not necessarily here. If a woman sleeps with men before she realises/can bring herself to accept that she only likes women, is she any less entitled to identify as a lesbian? IMHO no, not at all. And heaven forbid if a woman is actually bi...  :rolleyes: Now I know Sera isn't intended to be bi, so that's a different point entirely. It's just a personal bugbear of mine how bi women are treated by gay women sometimes, but I'll spare you that rant.  ;)
 
OTOH I completely understand the need for representation, and accurate representation at that. I never played as BroShep so I can't add too much to your comment about Traynor there, but as a female I've never had an issue with her portrayal. Celene is more problematic, I very much agree. 
 
So is it the fact that Sera is Word of Godded as gay, and presents as such in game, so therefore anything ambiguous like this should have been left out of the writing? I find Blackwall about as interesting as drying paint half the time, so he never makes my party. Purely reading the dialogues, though, it's possible Sera is possibly taking it from the angle of how to please a woman and is actually taking a dig at the stereotype of male attitudes to straight sex...?


I may not be the best person to respond but I don't feel that there really is any negative feelings here toward bi women or lesbians that have been with men before in this thread at all. Most of the beloved characters are bi, Leliana, Liara are both icons when it comes to romance in BioWare games for lesbian women, in my opinion. I think maybe the angst comes in when the first lesbian DA characters conversations could be portrayed as having some attraction to men, to some. I'm not saying that I agree with this but I can see why they question it. I really have no issue with Sera except some of the elfy stuff but I still love her character. She's still my fav, although I still angst over Cass but she does have a good friendship arc.
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This makes me happy. <3

 

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yep. yep. no more slime ^^


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that reminds me, the series finale is today :(


...I actually want to try it?

U don't kno me!

I'm actually taking the recommendation from ks seriously. as in cleaning the microwave every two weeks. :wizard:


She's got you doing stuff too? She has me drinking water. I've drank half a litre today...
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morns

morning



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Imo i think it was just a dirty joke thats misunderstood. My friend made a similar joke but prefers ladies and hasnt been with a guy at all.

Im probably not the best to comment on this...

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morning

happy sextalk friday :P

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She's got you doing stuff too? She has me drinking water. I've drank half a litre today...

 

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