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raging_monkey

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Y'all keep that up and you'll make me blush. :)

...Feel free to continue.

* "smexy voice" me make a lady blush its not in my nature haha

* breaks out into a issac hayes syle solo*

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I didn't say she encouraged such homophobic views in you. I was speaking in general, about something I encounter all the time. But you said it that you thought before that gay women aren't into men sexually, which I suspect was based on your understanding of your own sexuality as a straight man, of being just into women, but thanks to her you apparently started thinking it's a lot more complicated for gay women.

 

I'm not trying to attack you. Just wanted to ask you, if you would consider a man who enjoys having sex with other men straight because he identifes as such? Do you think orientation is only based on self-identification?

 

Sure, if the straight man, like Nub's friend, specified that he was able to experience sexual attraction/pleasure, but not any romantic attraction or meaning to it and eventually concluded that he was in fact straight. There is not a very good vocabulary to describe sexuality, so maybe there's a better way to describe a situation like that, but they get to decide that for themselves.  Real people's experiences of their own sexuality can be messy and complicated and as long as they're not flinging poo on other people, they're allowed to experience that complication without it being shot down as "just this" or "just that", imo. Which is what it sounds like Nub's friend was saying. 


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ok.

 

time for some insults so KS's head doesn't get too big

 

*points at ks*

 

your taste in tea is average.


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#89554
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Sure, if the straight man, like Nub's friend, specified that he was able to experience sexual attraction/pleasure, but not any romantic attraction or meaning to it and eventually concluded that he was in fact straight. There is not a very good vocabulary to describe sexuality, so maybe there's a better way to describe a situation like that, but they get to decide that for themselves.  Real people's experiences of their own sexuality can be messy and complicated and as long as they're not flinging poo on other people, they're allowed to experience that complication without it being shot down as "just this" or "just that", imo. Which is what it sounds like Nub's friend was saying. 

 

You said that so much better than I could. Or what I should have said. There isn't a very good vocabulary and I know it's hard for me to put into words at times everything I feel.



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raging_monkey

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I just don't care what gender somebody has chances are ill be attracted and get satifaction regardless. I just care bout the person.
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Well, the conversation has probably changed since it takes me forever to write a post but I'm going to post anyway.

 

I know she's a lesbian, and I don't dispute that in the tiniest, I just believed her when heard that quote about her seducing guys just to tell them that their wives were better.

 
Sensitive subject to some people, so why put comments that can confuse people in the game.
 

"Your thing...it's not my thing."

"We have something in common: we both like women."

 
A lesbian may never see this statement, just saying.
 

They never ever thought she was joking probably? Honestly, nobody makes a fuss with it since it's not meant to be taken seriously. :P
 
 
Don't worry, we're discussing. :D


Honest question, I don't know the answer is there anything in the game similar with Dorian?


General statement not directed to anyone.

I've read this conversation being questioned before by other people, seen people question that you would never know that Josie was bi unless she's romanced. So there are people having some issues with s/s female characters as far as how they are seen by others. Really, I'm just questioning the need to have a conversation that might be bothersome to some or be misunderstood by others. I know that sometimes they aren't going to be able to see everything that could bother people but after Serendipity I am much more sensitive about what's said or portrayed. The statement made me squirm a little when I heard it. Some of you may remember that I said the 'he's a she' comment didn't bother me and it didn't but I wish it wasn't there and it shouldn't have been, the same goes with this conversation, I just don't like seeing things that could be interpreted negatively for the representation portrayed. I've said much more than I should already, so that is all.
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#89557
raging_monkey

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I have to say serendipidy is my ideal lady

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I return.  After a fashion.

 

 

 

Just drinking a mocha and adjusting my default settings.  After midnight my apparent Ѡ obsession should reset to normal levels, thankfully.

 

...

 

Glad other things are returning to their usual levels as well. Friendship is, I've heard, magic.



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I return.  After a fashion.

 

 

 

Just drinking a mocha and adjusting my default settings.  After midnight my apparent Ѡ obsession should reset to normal levels, thankfully.

 

...

 

Glad other things are returning to their usual levels as well. Friendship is, I've heard, magic.

......ya return ? and who are ya ? *eye ya suspiciously* .....come on! gimme some ID!  :lol: 

 

And did ya steal one of my bewbz from mah signature ?!?! Eek! Give it back!! 



#89560
raging_monkey

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Relax its netflix

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Rel Fexive

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......ya return ? and who are ya ? *eye ya suspiciously* .....come on! gimme some ID!  :lol:

 

And did ya steal one of my bewbz from mah signature ?!?! Eek! Give it back!! 

 

Ya got those bewbz from me, Twinkles.

 

Um, sort of.



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AlexiaRevan

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Ya got those bewbz from me, Twinkles.

 

Um, sort of.

Netflix ? 

 

since when..ya have a pair of Tetas  <_<

 

Oh ya mean..buahahahaha......Thats what ya get for saying weird thing ! :lol:



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Relax its netflix

Netflix ? 

 

since when..ya have a pair of Tetas  <_<

 

Oh ya mean..buahahahaha......Thats what ya get for saying weird thing ! :lol:

 

Yes indeed, tis I.  I was thinking today, with all of the DA / ME character business, that "Fexive" could be transmuted into "Wrexive" quite easily for amusement's sake.  Hence Sten, hence avatar.  For a bit of fun.


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ok.

time for some insults so KS's head doesn't get too big

*points at ks*

your taste in tea is average.


Go with something like this it'll work better:

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Puny god.

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AlexiaRevan

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Yes indeed, tis I.  I was thinking today, with all of the DA / ME character business, that "Fexive" could be transmuted into "Wrexive" quite easily for amusement's sake.  Hence Sten, hence avatar.  For a bit of fun.

Awww......ya changed ya name and avatar..ya arent netflix anymore . What happen to Liara ? not like her anymore ? 



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AlexiaRevan

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Relax its netflix

hey ! ya do the zen love me everyone stuff and I do the everyone guilty until proven otherwise !  :lol: Ying and Yang deary! 



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Honest question, I don't know the answer is there anything in the game similar with Dorian?

 

I think Dorian enjoys the flirt by a female Inquisitor. But ofc nobody says things like "oh i'm sure he'd be with women too if he found the right woman" or something like that he could hook up with the female quizzy bc apparently has no problem if flirted by female inquisitor (correct me if im wrong pls)

 

But Sera makes a joke and ppl believe it actually happened....

I get it, media is notorious for making lesbians "falling for men" or "once went with men" or "sill hooks up with man but calls herself a lesbian". But absolutely nothing indicates Sera went with a dude. She'd clearly mention it if she went with one once at least.

 

 

That line was a pure joke. Something "she'd do just to annoy the dude", not actually hook up with him just to tell him that his wife is better. She isn't that stupid. :P


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Go with something like this it'll work better:

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Puny god.

 

I don't think it applies.

 

because violence is not the answer.

 

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#89569
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I don't think it applies.

 

because violence is not the answer.

 

...

 

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GO KIDDO!!! MOM IS CHEerING for YA! Squash that Prothean!  :lol: 



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I have to say serendipidy is my ideal lady



It was rather crushing for me to hear the voice, felt like people like me were being made fun of again. Just about every media type available has made fun of trans women in some way. It was heartbreaking for me when NCIS joined in on the fun especially having my favorite character calling us hickey. They've made trans jokes a running theme in that show.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a bad reaction to your post. :)
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raging_monkey

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hey ! ya do the zen love me everyone stuff and I do the everyone guilty until proven otherwise !  :lol: Ying and Yang deary!

i was welcoming and lovly dovy haha

#89572
Rel Fexive

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Awww......ya changed ya name and avatar..ya arent netflix anymore . What happen to Liara ? not like her anymore ? 

 

YOU WASH OUT YOUR MOUTH WITH ASARI SOAP YOUNG LADY!

 

(not a euphemism)

 

:P

 

She will return, I'm sure.  'Sides, I have her as my phone wallpaper anyway.  In that nice white dress...



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I don't think it applies.

because violence is not the answer.

...

-snip-


-_-

I was advocating violence against Loki, not Dazzle. Silly primitive.

#89574
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I think Dorian enjoys the flirt by a female Inquisitor. But ofc nobody says things like "oh i'm sure he'd be with women too if he found the right woman" or something like that he could hook up with the female quizzy bc apparently has no problem if flirted by female inquisitor (correct me if im wrong pls)

 

 

Oh trust me, they do. :/  

 

But I think the comparison with Dorian is that it's made explicit in his story that he's gay, and his flirtatious comments are addressed. (And those comments and that part of his character has actually been torn apart by people, especially after Gaider described why he chose to do that lmao), and leave no real room for ambiguity. So it isn't "Oh, I read this comment as her being bi and never encountered anything that contradicted that" it's "Well I know they say he's gay but he and my female Quizzie just clicked so much!!!" or whatever. 


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GO KIDDO!!! MOM IS CHEerING for YA! Squash that Prothean!  :lol:

 

oh. I'm not fighting him. It's just a reaction to the gif XD