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#9001
Basement Cat

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ah yeas its CLASS gating right? Not RACE gating after all lol 

Mind you, the person making the point about Sera rejecting the human because she is a noble would still work. They did say the gates would have story justifications, so Sera rejects the human because of their noble background, even if they're a mage, fulfills both requirements (if you consider a character's opinion to be a 'story' reason)



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Mind you, the person making the point about Sera rejecting the human because she is a noble would still work. They did say the gates would have story justifications, so Sera rejects the human because of their noble background, even if they're a mage, fulfills both requirements (if you consider a character's opinion to be a 'story' reason)

 

Actually yep, rejecting the player races is still race-gating



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yeah I don't consider that a good story reason, I would be more okay with it being the whole human and elf relations thing but just the fact they are a noble just seems like a cop out 



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TheLastSuperSaiyan87

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Actually yep, rejecting the player races is still race-gating

coming from the person who is probably praying sera is race gated so they can laugh at everyone 



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Oh. Imagine Sera saying... "I'm not into Warriors."

 

nooooo

 

but but

 nooooo



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Actually yep, rejecting the player races is still race-gating

? I was not arguing that. Some people were saying that rejection because of a noble background did not count as 'race' gating, but I was pointing out that it could be the 'story' reason the Devs have been talking about.



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AresKeith

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? I was not arguing that. Some people were saying that rejection because of a noble background did not count as 'race' gating, but I was pointing out that it could be the 'story' reason the Devs have been talking about.

 

I was agreeing with you lol :P



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yeah I don't consider that a good story reason, I would be more okay with it being the whole human and elf relations thing but just the fact they are a noble just seems like a cop out 

Well, we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?

 

Still, I didn't think they would restrict some romances by both gender and race, but since Josephine and Iron Bull are both confirmed ungated...



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I was agreeing with you lol :P

Oh. Derp! It's my bed time anyway.

 

Good night everybody! Dream of Sera tonight!



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Actually yep, rejecting the player races is still race-gating

Uh....yeah we know that rejecting a player RACE is still RACE gating, we are talking about rejecting a player cause of the CLASS they come from



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coming from the person who is probably praying sera is race gated so they can laugh at everyone 

 

You are definitely making a big deal out of nothing with that assumption



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I advanced about five levels and made about three hundred Sovereigns. Also, without it, my character would never stand a chance of being lvl25 at the moment she slew the Archdemon.

 

I tend to be level 15/16ish by the time I leave Lothering.  I find level grinding to be pretty dull, and like have access to all the really fun spells early in the game.  I also tend to sell the Dalish back their own elfroots to level up quickly after doing their quest.

 

I think Sera would approve of this attitude.



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TheLastSuperSaiyan87

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You are definitely making a big deal out of nothing with that assumption

call it as I see it buddy and you've made a pretty good case about it in the past and many would agree 



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yeah I don't consider that a good story reason, I would be more okay with it being the whole human and elf relations thing but just the fact they are a noble just seems like a cop out 

 

All we know as a human protagonist is the noble life, if we were allowed to play as a human commoner I reckon Sera would perhaps have no qualms about getting close to you. It's just the fact that we know she has grown up in an Alienage, city elves have it rough and I wouldn't blame her for having a strong dislike for human nobility. And perhaps she may not be race-gated at all, maybe Bioware will restrict the straight options instead, perhaps we're going into panic mode for nothing! :P


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#9015
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You are definitely making a big deal out of nothing with that assumption

 

Ares, just ignore them!

 

It's what i do, that handy forum feature saves me a lot of issues.


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call it as I see it buddy and you've made a pretty good case about it in the past and many would agree 

 

So??  :huh:

 

Like I also said in the past, Sera is one of the least likely I see as race-gated but it could happen  :lol:



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TheLastSuperSaiyan87

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yep nice story 



#9018
AresKeith

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Ares, just ignore them!

 

It's what i do, that handy forum feature saves me a lot of issues.

 

I actually did ask that question in the other thread being sarcastic tbh  :D



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All we know as a human protagonist is the noble life, if we were allowed to play as a human commoner I reckon Sera would perhaps have no qualms about getting close to you. It's just the fact that we know she has grown up in an Alienage, city elves have it rough and I wouldn't blame her for having a strong dislike for human nobility. And perhaps she may not be race-gated at all, maybe Bioware will restrict the straight options instead, perhaps we're going into panic mode for nothing! :P

chances of that being true is very high, though the only straight option I see getting gated is Cullen 



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I actually did ask that question in the other thread being sarcastic tbh  :D

uh huh and I knew it to lol 



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I tend to be level 15/16ish by the time I leave Lothering.  I find level grinding to be pretty dull, and like have access to all the really fun spells early in the game.  I also tend to sell the Dalish back their own elfroots to level up quickly after doing their quest.

 

I think Sera would approve of this attitude.

 

I can respect that. Mostly because I'm no different.

 

Also, night Drake!

 

P.S.: One just frolics into the kitchen for a bite and drink, and the thread almost goes wiiiild!



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I don't think she'll be race-gated.

 

Though, I don't care personally...I'll roll a dwarf if needed (don't usually play them).  I might play a dwarf at some point anyway...their background looks cool.

 

As for humans, nothing in Sera's background (what we know at least) suggests she holds a particular animosity towards humans.  She doesn't like 'bigwigs' which does include nobles but it would also include the Inquisitor (dwarf/human/qunari/elf).  I think that will be a hurdle to get over if you desire any form of relationship with Sera (friendship/romance).

 

Once over that, I don't see race getting in the way of a possible romance.



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I actually did ask that question in the other thread being sarcastic tbh  :D

 

Ahh, Alrightie then.

 

Well that's fine, dismissed and all that assorted stuff...

 

Spoiler



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Didn't they say that she "Never got the opportunity to jump on the wagon early to make sure the ones at the top stay humble"?

 

Maybe she'll be... morality-gated? Call it whatever you like, but what I mean is, Quizzy will do everything for the common folk, andask nothing in return?



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Didn't they say that she "Never got the opportunity to jump on the wagon early to make sure the ones at the top stay humble"?

 

Maybe she'll be... morality-gated? Call it whatever you like, but what I mean is, Quizzy will do everything for the common folk, andask nothing in return?

Thing is no matter what race the Inquisitor is they are going to be an authority figure and in power (she hates authority also), plus morality is what the approval and disapproval system is for