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You can mod it, but she's f/m only in the base game. She is fabulous though, I'm very sad about that. There is Juhani, but I think you have to mod it to make her romance work?  Bit confused on that one, feel like I've heard conflicting things. 



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On a sidenote, Juhani is female only... (but was bugged as bi originally), and really Bioware's fist attempt at f/f romance. She's voiced by Courtenay Taylor (Jack). You might be interested.

 

edit: nvm.. everyone covered juhani



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Her and Carth are kind of the main companions. I don't know if you can mod it. I wouldn't doubt it.

Yes you can mod it...

 

I wish there was a mod to leave carth on taris, but no luck so far... he's to integral to the whole plot.. which sucks cause he's suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper annoying...



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You can mod it, but she's f/m only in the base game. She is fabulous though, I'm very sad about that. There is Juhani, but I think you have to mod it to make her romance work?  Bit confused on that one, feel like I've heard conflicting things. 

yeah the Juhani romance was bugged out so bad in the vanilla game...



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*EDI voice* I see.

i'll have to look up this Juhani. Rage idk if their is interest but i did see that post and a few others. just search femslash bastila on tumblr.

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You can mod it, but she's f/m only in the base game. She is fabulous though, I'm very sad about that. There is Juhani, but I think you have to mod it to make her romance work? Bit confused on that one, feel like I've heard conflicting things.

on juhani:shes f/f but due to bugs on certain copies she bi. No mods required if on xbox.

Personally never had a thing for cathar... to violent as a whole

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*EDI voice* I see.

i'll have to look up this Juhani. Rage idk if their is interest but i did see that post and a few others. just search femslash bastila on tumblr.

if your serious here all relvent info on juhani yeah i know SW geek http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Juhani

And id avoid tumblr but ill look into it

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I love the Carth romance. Best comedy.  He's weird because on paper he's not a whiny or bad character, he's a dude who has been through hell and has no reason to trust you, but in game he is incredibly melodramatic, and so I have this weird blend of "I should feel sympathy for you but I can't stop laughing and ALSO YOU'RE SUCH AN *******". File my relationship with Carth under "it's complicated." I sometimes feel compelled to defend him, but mostly I laugh. 



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so I saw all of three things for bastila on tumblr... at least when I searched femslah bastila



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I love the Carth romance. Best comedy.  He's weird because on paper he's not a whiny or bad character, he's a dude who has been through hell and has no reason to trust you, but in game he is incredibly melodramatic, and so I have this weird blend of "I should feel sympathy for you but I can't stop laughing and ALSO YOU'RE SUCH AN *******". File my relationship with Carth under "it's complicated." I sometimes feel compelled to defend him, but mostly I laugh. 

 

Yeah, that stuck out to me too.. He's supposed to be some hardened war hero. But it's basically Kaiden.... with whiny tendencies (before I knew Kaiden, that is).


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I love the Carth romance. Best comedy.  He's weird because on paper he's not a whiny or bad character, he's a dude who has been through hell and has no reason to trust you, but in game he is incredibly melodramatic, and so I have this weird blend of "I should feel sympathy for you but I can't stop laughing and ALSO YOU'RE SUCH AN *******". File my relationship with Carth under "it's complicated." I sometimes feel compelled to defend him, but mostly I laugh. 

nor do you have a reason to trust him. especially when he starts accusing you of somehow getting involved with the destruction of the ship.... mind you it was real fun to string him along with and then crush his hopes at the end... -dark grey revan-



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nor do you have a reason to trust him. especially when he starts accusing you of somehow getting involved with the destruction of the ship.... mind you it was real fun to string him along with and then crush his hopes at the end... -dark grey revan-

 

I played that way at first, but I'm actually replaying it atm. Trying to be cooler to him.



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I love Kaidan and I don't think he's whiny. Maybe it's just the VA you don't like (same guy). Carth wasn't so much whiny to me as like...just ridiculous OTT. Every conversation was like:

 

Carth: DONT TALK TO ME
me: .ok
Carth: but ur hot

me: what?

Carth: I SAID DONT TALK TO ME. I DONT TRUST PEOPLE
me: ok you dont have to--

Carth: AND YOU CANT MAKE ME
me: i have no desire to.....???
Carth: okay, well. let's just keep focused on the mission
me: THATS WHAT IW AS TRYING TO DO


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I love Kaidan and I don't think he's whiny. Maybe it's just the VA you don't like (same guy). Carth wasn't so much whiny to me as like...just ridiculous. Every conversation was like:

 

Carth: DONT TALK TO ME
me: .ok
Carth: but ur hot

me: what?

Carth: I SAID DONT TALK TO ME. I DONT TRUST PEOPLE
me: ok you dont have to--

Carth: AND YOU CANT MAKE ME
me: i have no desire to.....???
Carth: okay, well. let's just keep focused on the mission
me: THATS WHAT IW AS TRYING TO DO

 

no, I mean, it's like Kaiden. BUT whiny. I can't think of anytime Kaiden was like that.



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I played that way at first, but I'm actually replaying it atm. Trying to be cooler to him.

I've always found him to be way too whiny... I mean he's supposed to be some war hero, but every third word out his mouth has something to do with either accusing your character, trying to make a pass at your character (if female)[poorly I might add], whining about the mission, or some other little thing...


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Oooh, I misread. I don't think Kaidan is OTT either. Do you mean Kaidan is like a ...well executed version of Carth, then? I would agree with that. :lol: 



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Possibly worth noting that a Revanette's relationship with Juhani isn't acknowledged in KotOR 2 because janky SW canon rules and no imports - so there's a surprise Carth romance instead. I had a memory the Exilerina could romance Visas and her lips but Wookie doesn't seem to agree.

 

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Carth has the same voice as Scorch in Republic Commando which always confuses me a bit.



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no, I mean, it's like Kaiden. BUT whiny. I can't think of anytime Kaiden was like that.

Only time he was even remotely like that was in me2... and even then it wasnt a whole lot of that.



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nor do you have a reason to trust him. especially when he starts accusing you of somehow getting involved with the destruction of the ship.... mind you it was real fun to string him along with and then crush his hopes at the end... -dark greyrevan-

can dark jedi be grey jedi lol. But yeah it is fun

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I've always found him to be way too whiny... I mean he's supposed to be some war hero, but every third word out his mouth has something to do with either accusing your character, trying to make a pass at your character (if female)[poorly I might add], whining about the mission, or some other little thing...

 

I only played once back in the day and felt that way(but from the male perspective). Now I'm kind of appreciating him.

 

He has doubts... which is welcome to me.. I think DAI needed a character who didn't trust you. NPCs are like this, but none of the Inquisition is. Not to this extent at least.


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Possibly worth noting that a Revanette's relationship with Juhani isn't acknowledged in KotOR 2 because janky SW canon rules and no imports - so there's a surprise Carth romance instead. I had a memory the Exilerina could romance Visas and her lips but Wookie doesn't seem to agree.

 

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Carth has the same voice as Scorch in Republic Commando which always confuses me a bit.

 

Well Revanette isnt even acknowledged as being cannon anyways. its lightside male revan who romanced bas. and was buddy buddy with carth.



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Possibly worth noting that a Revanette's relationship with Juhani isn't acknowledged in KotOR 2 because janky SW canon rules and no imports - so there's a surprise Carth romance instead. I had a memory the Exilerina could romance Visas and her lips but Wookie doesn't seem to agree.

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Carth has the same voice as Scorch in Republic Commando which always confuses me a bit.

for scortch its implied he and sev were "over cooked" so picked up odd traits. but it raphfel sbarge they needed a joker on the team.

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can dark jedi be grey jedi lol. But yeah it is fun

its more like she was grey, but she liked more chaos in her life than inner peace and all that other stuff?

hence dark grey, not actually darkside.



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for scortch its implied he and sev were "over cooked" so picked up odd traits. but it raphfel sbarge they needed a joker on the team.

 

All the commandos are supposed to have traits from their trainers and more individuality.

 

Sev is cool.

 

Well Revanette isnt even acknowledged as being cannon anyways. its lightside male revan who romanced bas. and was buddy buddy with carth.

 

Right, that KotOR 2 even had a gender / alignment choice for the past game breaks with SW standard doctrine.

 

The Exile is way cooler anyway.



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its more like she was grey, but she liked more chaos in her life than inner peace and all that other stuff?
hence dark grey, not actually darkside.

sounds more like a follower of potenium than grey
Just for references:http://starwars.wiki.../wiki/Potentium