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same. Yeah limits are needed but nah when a child gets like that its spank first ask later. Some kids need it

 

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edit: meh



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Hell, no. I'm fervently against corporal punishment.

its needed for some kids. I admit CP isnt ideal and there many ways to rear a child. Its just my opinion not fact

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its needed for some kids. I admit CP isnt ideal and there many ways to rear a child. Its just my opinion not fact

I don't think it's needed for anyone, and if you think that it's needed, someone's already deeply screwed up somewhere along the lines.



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Kids need to be inspired. Not beat.

 

But I don't really know that from experience... it's just a thought. I think they something good to model after, that makes them WANT to be cool. Else they'll fall back on ugly behavior. And no amount of beatings will change it. They'll only change when they discover inspiration on their own late in life.



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I don't think it's needed for anyone, and if you think that it's needed, someone's already deeply screwed up somewhere along the lines.

 

Not really



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I don't think it's needed for anyone, and if you think that it's needed, someone's already deeply screwed up somewhere along the lines.

harsh words or saying "no" doesnt work with all children some listen and no probs others get out of control and may require a harsher touch

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harsh words or saying "no" doesnt work with all children some listen and no probs others get out of control and may require a harsher touch

There are plenty of other ways to go about this without hitting people.



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Kids need to be inspired. Not beat.

But I don't really know that from experience... it's just a thought. I think they something good to model after, that makes them WANT to be cool. Else they'll fall back on ugly behavior. And no amount of beatings will change it. They'll only change when they discover inspiration on their own late in life.

again some may need it but not always. i agree kids need good RMs but some dont have those.

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harsh words or saying "no" doesnt work with all children some listen and no probs others get out of control and may require a harsher touch

Exactly. My little brother was completely out of control when he was young. To the point where he literately peed on a baby sitter.  My mother tried everything she could to stop his out of control behavior. Our home was a war zone for many months once he started pulling crap like that. As a last ditch effort, my mother spanked him. His behavior started to turn around the same day.    



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again some may need it but not always. i agree kids need good RMs but some dont have those.

 

Even what they're exposed to in culture would help. The less crappy stuff in their heads, and more awesome things, then they'll probably want to be awesome. You're fighting an upward battle with all of these images too... it's hard work probably, compared to just beating them.



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harsh words or saying "no" doesnt work with all children some listen and no probs others get out of control and may require a harsher touch

 

Yep, sometimes harsh words or "time out" doesn't mothing and can even make some kids at out more



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edit: screw this. nvm



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There are plenty of other ways to go about this without hitting people.

im sure there are ( placing restrictions, writing sentences, lectures, boot camps). again it works for some others it doesnt.

for me i was a little shite that got into fights often and misbehaved. Most the time lectures and non violent rearing worked but other times a belt was required. And i turned out alright

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Exactly. My little brother was completely out of control when he was young. To the point where he literately peed on a baby sitter.  My mother tried everything she could to stop his out of control behavior. Our home was a war zone for many months once he started pulling crap like that. As a last ditch effort, my mother spanked him. His behavior started to turn around the same day.    

Well, you can hoist the violence success anecdote banner as you wish, but it won't change my opinion any.

 

 

im sure there are ( placing restrictions, writing sentences, lectures, boot camps). again it works for some others it doesnt.

for me i was a little shite that got into fights often and misbehaved. Most the time lectures and non violent rearing worked but other times a belt was required. And i turned out alright

I would contest "all right" if it's something that you'd be willing to do to your own children.



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Even what they're exposed to in culture would help. The less crappy stuff in their heads, and more awesome things, then they'll probably want to be awesome. You're fighting an upward battle with all of these images too... it's hard work probably, compared to just beating them.

A quick swat on the backside isn't beating your kid not by a long shot. You know what is? Punching your child or hitting your kid with a paddle you make out of a 2x4. One of my mothers boyfriends was extremely abusive and even after enduring crap like that, I still say spanking isn't beating a kid.  


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Well we did say it worked for some but not others

 

I got the belt when I did something really bad, and I turn out alot better than other I've seen 

 

eh, just delete this quote. i removed it. not for public consumption. heh



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Even what they're exposed to in culture would help. The less crappy stuff in their heads, and more awesome things, then they'll probably want to be awesome. You're fighting an upward battle with all of these images too... it's hard work probably, compared to just beating them.

you wont get a arguement from me

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A quick swat on the backside isn't beating your kid not by a long shot. You know what is? Punching your child or hitting your kid with a paddle you make out of a 2x4. One of my mothers boyfriends was extremely abusive and even after enduring crap like that, I still say spanking isn't beating a kid.  

 

This.

I got slapped back then when i was a kid few times for doing **** things, and i'm still alive.


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you wont get a arguement from me

 

Cool..

 

I mean... it's kind of one thing to say, and another thing to do though. I don't have kids. I can't say "Hey! Inspire them!" But it seems like it might be a good idea. This is what worked for me, even as an adult.



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Well, you can hoist the violence success anecdote banner as you wish, but it won't change my opinion any.


I would contest "all right" if it's something that you'd be willing to do to your own children.

im polite, well mannered productive, do what is right, so yeah i think i turned out fine. And id only do that as a last resort im not beat first ask later. Ill try to "reason" but again some kids may need it.

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I believe that spanking can work, depending on the child but that it should be used a last resort and only in a sense to shock the child and show them that their behaviour is not acceptable.

 

It should be a firm swat, and it should not hurt or injure the child. Sting, yes but it should not leave a mark, and it should be done for discipline not out of frustration and anger.


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im polite, well mannered productive, do what is right, so yeah i think i turned out fine. And id only do that as a last resort im not beat first ask later. Ill try to "reason" but again some kids may need it.

 

Depends on what they did for me :P



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Cool..

I mean... it's kind of one thing to say, and another thing to do though. I don't have kids. I can't say "Hey! Inspire them!" But it seems like it might be a good idea. This is what worked for me, even as an adult.

hey im open to other forms of rearing just keep my options. But yeah im no parent(hope to never be one tbh) i can only speak in theory on how to raise a child

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I believe that spanking can work, depending on the child but that it should be used a last resort and only in a sense to shock the child and show them that their behaviour is not acceptable.

It should be a firm swat, and it should not hurt or injure the child. Sting, yes but it should not leave a mark, and it should be done for discipline not out of frustration and anger.

agreed