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To me she is the most annoying character in the game. I truely don't like that character; she infantile and doesn"t fit the inquisition. Her comments and dialoge always irritate me and I don't like her looks.

But that's me.

Luckily for you, you can take Varric or Cole, or play as a tempest rogue yourself if you want all her abilities. Then you don't even have to recruit her!

 

I'll just get on with enjoying one of my favourite BioWare characters. :)


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Wish I would look so relaxed doing a back salto. (Wish I could do a back salto.)

 

unrelated:

Sera is obviously one of the dev team's favorite characters. Do you think this influences people's perception of her, e.g. fuelling their animosity? Like, when I see some people's frequent displays of the same ignorance and arrogance regarding Sera, I wonder why they don't simply ignore her, instead of repeating that and why they ignore her. I don't invest so much time in characters I don't like, I just disregard them and am done with it. It's not debating anyway, it's just case-hardening inflexible opinions on both sides. And I feel that those arguments (and even points of view) are especially rough when about Sera. There must be a reason. If she was not a dev favorite, would we observe the same effect?

(Funny though how people stubbornly complain about Sera's stubbornness.)


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Wish I would look so relaxed doing a back salto. (Wish I could do a back salto.)

 

unrelated:

Sera is obviously one of the dev team's favorite characters. Do you think this influences people's perception of her, e.g. fuelling their animosity? Like, when I see some people's frequent displays of the same ignorance and arrogance regarding Sera, I wonder why they don't simply ignore her, instead of repeating that and why they ignore her. I don't invest so much time in characters I don't like, I just disregard them and am done with it. It's not debating anyway, it's just case-hardening inflexible opinions on both sides. And I feel that those arguments (and even points of view) are especially rough when about Sera. There must be a reason. If she was not a dev favorite, would we observe the same effect?

(Funny though how people stubbornly complain about Sera's stubbornness.)

 

Well, Liara is considered one of the dev's favorite and she's hated a lot as well. Shrugs.



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Well, Liara is considered one of the dev's favorite and she's hated a lot as well. Shrugs.

 

Which is sort of why I am starting to think it might be a good idea if the writers tune the fandom out a bit and stick to their own vision (or gut instincts).



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To be fair I think that Liara and Sera tend to be disliked for very different reasons (although I adore both of them.) They certainly are pretty far apart personality-wise...


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To be fair I think that Liara and Sera tend to be disliked for very different reasons (although I adore both of them.) They certainly are pretty far apart personality-wise...

 Not to mention their coloring. Seriously though, I think a lot of the outrage against Sera comes from the idea that the Devs 'wasted' resources on her when they could have made a 'better' companion.  Or something like that.


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Which is sort of why I am starting to think it might be a good idea if the writers tune the fandom out a bit and stick to their own vision (or gut instincts).

 

Eh, a lot of writers consider certain characters their favorites.. Laidlaw for example named some in interviews and this didn't annoy the fandom.

 

I personally like hearing devs liking my fav character.  ^_^



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awwww, just want to bake Sera some really good cookies, I hope she likes chocolate chip, Inky make's a mean choc. Chip cookie.
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awwww, just want to bake Sera some really good cookies, I hope she likes chocolate chip, Inky make's a mean choc. Chip cookie.

As long a you stay away from dried fruit I think you'll be good...



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As long a you stay away from dried fruit I think you'll be good...


Not a big fan of raisins, I do put pecans in them. *trying to control urge to bake cookies*

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As long a you stay away from dried fruit I think you'll be good...

I wonder how Sera would react to fruitcake then.

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Now I want a parody comic of the Nightmare threatening her with this stuff... Any artists care to volunteer?


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I'm guessing she's not a fan of muesli either...



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There must be a reason. If she was not a dev favorite, would we observe the same effect?

(Funny though how people stubbornly complain about Sera's stubbornness.)

 

I don't see how dev favouritism would be enough of a tangible thing for most people to fuel their hate.

 

I'm inclined to think the intensity of hate is at least somewhat influenced by her being a woman, but it's difficult to be objective about. Solas and Blackwall do some pretty jerky things and get a lot of hate for it, but I don't see a constant train of hate threads like Sera's personality and Cassandra's face get.


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I'm guessing she's not a fan of muesli either...

Who is? That stuff is nasty. It's like trail mix served with milk. (wait... it is!)

 

Now, if Sera has a problem with dried fruit, the culprit is most likely the texture, unless raisins are the only dried fruit she hates. I can think of only one thing that could help her overcome her distaste of raisins.

 

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That stuff is gooooood.



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I don't see how dev favouritism would be enough of a tangible thing for most people to fuel their hate.

 

I'm inclined to think the intensity of hate is at least somewhat influenced by her being a woman, but it's difficult to be objective about. Solas and Blackwall do some pretty jerky things and get a lot of hate for it, but I don't see a constant train of hate threads like Sera's personality and Cassandra's face get.

It would be really interesting if you could release an alternate version of the game with a bunch of characters with similar personalities but with genders and sexualities switched around to compare and contrast the fan reactions, but sadly that's never going to be possible.


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but I don't see a constant train of hate threads like Sera's personality and Cassandra's face get.

 

It's sad, really. You can easily see this "trend" here, in tumblr and other sites.

Hell, Bianca just got one hate thread. Fiona as well. And I haven't seen any hate thread for one of the dudes in DA.... 

 

:/


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Who is? That stuff is nasty. It's like trail mix served with milk. (wait... it is!)

 

Now, if Sera has a problem with dried fruit, the culprit is most likely the texture, unless raisins are the only dried fruit she hates. I can think of only one thing that could help her overcome her distaste of raisins.

 

Spoiler

 

That stuff is gooooood.

I'd never heard of trail mix before and I had to google it. I actually think I would enjoy that. I do sometimes take dried fruit and nuts out with me when I go walking anyway. I just never pre-mixed them with chocolate.

 

I do love chocolate raisins...



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I wonder how Sera would react to fruitcake then.

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Now I want a parody comic of the Nightmare threatening her with this stuff... Any artists care to volunteer?

 

We used to have a relative send us this every year at Christmas. It just sort of sat there, alone and unpopular, until someone would take pity on it and toss the tin into one of the garbage cans outside.  



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I wonder how Sera would react to fruitcake then.

 

Easy. It's useless as a food, so she'll just start throwing it at people. Fruitcake food fight. 


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I'd never heard of trail mix before and I had to google it. I actually think I would enjoy that. I do sometimes take dried fruit and nuts out with me when I go walking anyway. I just never pre-mixed them with chocolate.

 

I do love chocolate raisins...

If you want good trail mix use dark chocolate. Smarties and other candy just add sugar and nothing else.

 

We've seen Sera drunk, but not hungover yet... That's a scary thought. Hungover Sera...



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awwww, just want to bake Sera some really good cookies, I hope she likes chocolate chip, Inky make's a mean choc. Chip cookie.

 

From the look of the cookie she offers you I presumed it was Choccy chip. "Sera, dear, a raisin cookie just screams ambivalence about me love."   :lol:

 

I'd like a cookie if you have some lactose free milk on hand? :D



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We've seen Sera drunk, but not hungover yet... That's a scary thought. Hungover Sera...

 

Time for a strategic trip to check the structural integrity of the outer walls of Skyhold on the opposite side from the tavern...


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It would be really interesting if you could release an alternate version of the game with a bunch of characters with similar personalities but with genders and sexualities switched around to compare and contrast the fan reactions, but sadly that's never going to be possible.


If Cass's sexuality was switched she probably would get a lot of hate, because of unavailability, she wouldn't have gotten as much hate from some lesbians as Sera has though, since she's not as controversial. If Sera was male she could have ended up as the next Varric. :lol: Just joking, but it could happen, still would have gotten some hate because of elfy stance.

(only my thoughts and opinions, the armies don't need to be mobilized :lol: )
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