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#95951
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Well, that surprises me a bit. After the Temple of Mythal quest, I seem to remember Sera insisting that both stories cannot be true, and that she will disapprove (greatly, if I recall) if your Inq. states that they believe the things they learned in the temple were true.

 

Am I missing something here, or is this an oversight?



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I was also, I so wanted to see this happen, complete with stepping on toes!

 

In my first playthrough, I picked the 'lets go get drunk and have fun' option when Sera comes to see you on the balcony after stopping the assassin. I was really hoping to get to see them mess with the noble jerks. That had so much potential. I'm also still a little disappointed that it fades to black when you start to dance with Sera. That was like a slap to the face for me. I wanted to see adorable elven ladies dance.

 

I didn't even get to see any steps with Bull, wah! He leads you into the ballroom and it fades to black!

 

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Shush. Drama is good for the soul sometimes. :P

 

Drama makes my heart beat faster and gives me a rush; obviously it must be good for the body! 

 

I need all the drama. :P 



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Well, that surprises me a bit. After the Temple of Mythal quest, I seem to remember Sera insisting that both stories cannot be true, and that she will disapprove (greatly, if I recall) if your Inq. states that they believe the things they learned in the temple were true.

 

Am I missing something here, or is this an oversight?

 

Most likely the latter.

Though she respected Ameridan so there's that.

 

 

 

Also Sera will disapprove if you are an elf and especially, her lover because obviously for her the issue is more... personal than get annoyed at some random elf like Ameridan who had 2 faiths.

If your elf is her friend, she will still remain a friend to you even if there's some arguments about faith, so. This only happens if you are elf and her lover.



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Most likely the latter.

Though she respected Ameridan so there's that.

 

 

 

Also Sera will disapprove if you are an elf and especially, her lover because obviously for her the issue is more... personal than get annoyed at some random elf like Ameridan who had 2 faiths.

If your elf is her friend, she will still remain a friend to you even if there's some arguments about faith, so. This only happens if you are elf and her lover.

 

I had the fraught scene with her after the well so question: Is it that much worse if you drink than it already is if Morrigan does?



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I had the fraught scene with her after the well so question: Is it that much worse if you drink than it already is if Morrigan does?

 

Not sure, i haven't completed her romance with an elf, nor did drank from the well yet. XD

 

Hoping someone here can tell us about that.


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It's not really worse.

The scene is the same except for the first bit.
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It's not really worse.

The scene is the same except for the first bit.

 

Thanks Jib. I did romance her as an elf but made sure Morrigan drank and as I haven't had a quiz yet drink I wasn't certain if Sera reacts any more violently than she does. 



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I had the fraught scene with her after the well so question: Is it that much worse if you drink than it already is if Morrigan does?

 

Never did it myself, but from whatching online, it simply changes the first part with Sera "testing" inky.


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I had the fraught scene with her after the well so question: Is it that much worse if you drink than it already is if Morrigan does?


All I can just say is for me it was harder to tell Sera that it was all lies, when having the voices of elves running through Inky's head. Actually went back and let Morrigan drink, but I'm wimpy that way. :lol:
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All I can just say is for me it was harder to tell Sera that it was all lies, when having the voices of elves running through Inky's head. Actually went back and let Morrigan drink, but I'm wimpy that way. :lol:


I prefer to have Morrigan drink from the well. I just did it once for the achievement. I did not like Sera's reaction at all. I did like getting my own dragon though. I also think Morrigan's reaction to Flemythal is better if she drank from the well.
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I prefer to have Morrigan drink from the well. I just did it once for the achievement. I did not like Sera's reaction at all. I did like getting my own dragon though. I also think Morrigan's reaction to Flemythal is better if she drank from the well.


That's why I did it in the first place, Sera's reaction and the whole elf voices caused me to panic and go back. Still don't have that achievement, should have continued until I got the achievement, then went back. Wonder if I still have the save, probably not with the save limits on consoles.

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I only ever did the Well drinking thing with a human (that I kept the decision for).  I think you have to defeat the dragon to actually get the achievement from what I remember.

 

This human Inquisitor was full on elfy elf at the Temple of Mythal (did all the rituals, allied with the sentinel elves, drank from the Well, told Sera she believed all of it) and Sera was fine keeping a relationship with her.

 

By contrast, I did an elf playthrough where she rushed through the Temple and skipped all the rituals, killed all the sentinel elves (no alliance), Morrigan killed Abelas, didn't drink from the Well, but then she said she wasn't sure if it was real or not and Sera wanted to drop her real quick.

 

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Yeah, you do have to proceed until you face the guardian dragon and then fight her until she's at 50% health to get that achievement. It was a really tough fight from what I remember. Simply drinking from the Well won't net you the achievement.



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I prefer to have Morrigan drink from the well. I just did it once for the achievement. I did not like Sera's reaction at all. I did like getting my own dragon though. I also think Morrigan's reaction to Flemythal is better if she drank from the well.

 

Narratively it makes more sense for Morrigan to drink from the well I think. Because that encounter with Flemeth is/will be so so tension filled. But at some point I am going to have to try it out for myself.



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Narratively it makes more sense for Morrigan to drink from the well I think. Because that encounter with Flemeth is/will be so so tension filled. But at some point I am going to have to try it out for myself.


Morrigan gets kinda pissy with you if you drink instead of her. It kind of reminded me of a sulking pouty child. That is another reason I just let her drink.

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"On Burning Wings" is still the only cheevo I'm missing

cheevos that depend on making a specific plot choice irritate me to no end because it means that I have to choose between 100% and actually having fun

I tend to choose "actually having fun" but it sucks

in related news I'm missing like a third of the FNV cheevos and it makes me angry at my Steam account

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"On Burning Wings" is still the only cheevo I'm missing

cheevos that depend on making a specific plot choice irritate me to no end because it means that I have to choose between 100% and actually having fun

 

Taunting of incomplete games aside I kind of like being able to see that friend did a particular thing a particular way, that I may not have.

 

Not that Origin spams all your friends with your achievements.



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"On Burning Wings" is still the only cheevo I'm missingcheevos that depend on making a specific plot choice irritate me to no end because it means that I have to choose between 100% and actually having funI tend to choose "actually having fun" but it sucksin related news I'm missing like a third of the FNV cheevos and it makes me angry at my Steam account


I dont mind plot choice achievements so much. I am definitely a completionist. I find a game I really like and work my butt off to get all the achievements. I tend to play my first playthrough of a game completely blind and choose things that I would likely choose. I like making different choices in my second playthrough to see how it affects my playthrough. There are some choices that I have yet to see the consequences of though. I have not let the empress die or banished the wardens yet. I like games with many plot choices and consequences. I am currently playing an 'evil' inquisitor and it breaks my heart everytime I walk past Krem's chair and remember he is dead (never letting the chargers die again) :(
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Taunting of incomplete games aside I kind of like being able to see that friend did a particular thing a particular way, that I may not have.
 
Not that Origin spams all your friends with your achievements.


you can still see mine though <3

including all those difficulty cheevos

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I dont mind plot choice achievements so much. I am definitely a completionist. I find a game I really like and work my butt off to get all the achievements. I tend to play my first playthrough of a game completely blind and choose things that I would likely choose. I like making different choices in my second playthrough to see how it affects my playthrough. There are some choices that I have yet to see the consequences of though. I have not let the empress die or banished the wardens yet. I like games with many plot choices and consequences. I am currently playing an 'evil' inquisitor and it breaks my heart everytime I walk past Krem's chair and remember he is dead (never letting the chargers die again) :(


Yeah I just don't do that because a lot of that isn't fun for me, like making choices I don't want to make because I'd experience different content that I don't want to experience. That just seems like the acme of pointlessness.

Exploring extra areas? Cool. Finding hidden objects? Of course. Killing all the unique enemies? Done. Experimenting with different combat playstyles? Sure. Playing the highest difficulties? Sign me up. Experiencing all the conversations with companions or whatever? Totes down.

But getting plot cheevos for, say, backing Caesar's Legion or drinking the scary magickal slave water or becoming a werewolf, that sort of thing...not cool.

I understand why plot-choice cheevos exist, but I think that they're stupid, and as constructed they generally mean that getting them would make the game significantly less fun for me, so I don't get them.

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you can still see mine though <3

including all those difficulty cheevos

 

I have, you have more than me. I still have Burning Wings though.

 

 

I am currently playing an 'evil' inquisitor and it breaks my heart everytime I walk past Krem's chair and remember he is dead (never letting the chargers die again) :(

 

*feels guilty*

 

On that note though Burning WIngs is probably one of the least interesting choices to hang achievements on.



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On that note though Burning WIngs is probably one of the least interesting choices to hang achievements on.


ikr???

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I have, you have more than me. I still have Burning Wings though.
 
*feels guilty*
 
On that note though Burning WIngs is probably one of the least interesting choices to hang achievements on.

 

Role-playing as an Evil Inquisitor is breaking my heart, that's for sure. I have never had any of my followers hate Inky before. I don't like it.

 

Yeah I just don't do that because a lot of that isn't fun for me, like making choices I don't want to make because I'd experience different content that I don't want to experience. That just seems like the acme of pointlessness.Exploring extra areas? Cool. Finding hidden objects? Of course. Killing all the unique enemies? Done. Experimenting with different combat playstyles? Sure. Playing the highest difficulties? Sign me up. Experiencing all the conversations with companions or whatever? Totes down.But getting plot cheevos for, say, backing Caesar's Legion or drinking the scary magickal slave water or becoming a werewolf, that sort of thing...not cool.I understand why plot-choice cheevos exist, but I think that they're stupid, and as constructed they generally mean that getting them would make the game significantly less fun for me, so I don't get them.


I get that my playstyle isnt for everyone. I just like to try and get the most out of my games, which to me means replaying them a few times to see what I missed. I like making different choices in games like inquisition, but for games like Skyrim, where there are so many plot based achievements, I could see myself giving up on getting all achievements. I really like trying all classes and specializations as well as seeing how people react to the different races as well. I just love being an adorable elven rogue. I liked being a human warrior, but found it hard to like being a dwarf (even though the romance with Sera was super cute.) I liked being a big tall qunari, but I did not like the default voice actress for female qunari.
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So I realized I have an "issue" with completing my current playthrough, I just want to go back to Skyhold and hang out with Sera on the roof all the time. I can't help it my Adaar and Sera are too cute together.