You know, given how much more time I spend thinking about her than I do Josephine, I should probably just accept that Sera is the one I really want.
Is anyone up for the idea that I mentioned once before, about roleplaying as Sera while my Inquisitor tries out a different response to that Temple of Mythal fight? I'd write it myself, but I don't trust my objectivity.
Really, I could see them doing something like that, it's a rather efficient way of gauging two birds with a single stone?
The more I think about this setup, the more it bugs me.
Is anyone up for the idea that I mentioned once before, about roleplaying as Sera while my Inquisitor tries out a different response to that Temple of Mythal fight? I'd write it myself, but I don't trust my objectivity.
You know, given how much more time I spend thinking about her than I do Josephine, I should probably just accept that Sera is the one I really want.
Is anyone up for the idea that I mentioned once before, about roleplaying as Sera while my Inquisitor tries out a different response to that Temple of Mythal fight? I'd write it myself, but I don't trust my objectivity.
What exactly are you trying to do? Come up with a new headcanon for that conversation? Cause I could try to write Sera's part for you, but I'm not sure if I could do her justice. She has a really strange way of speaking and I may do a terrible job.
More or less that, yes. Though I'm also curious as to what she'd say if I told her earlier on, just to make no bones about it, that I believe in the Creators and she can break up with me here and now if that's a problem.
More or less that, yes. Though I'm also curious as to what she'd say if I told her earlier on, just to make no bones about it, that I believe in the Creators and she can break up with me here and now if that's a problem.
I could probably help you out. I am curious about that too. What would happen if you gave her an 'out' early into the relationship? Like would she take it or not?
Should we do this in PMs now, then?
More or less that, yes. Though I'm also curious as to what she'd say if I told her earlier on, just to make no bones about it, that I believe in the Creators and she can break up with me here and now if that's a problem.
I have a pretty good read on Sera, and I can tell you now that she would likely choose to dump that Quizzy.
Hell, if I was in that situation and my gf told me that, I would pretty much assume that I really wasn't important enough to at least make some compromises, and would very quickly end the relationship and move on. It can't be "my way or the hi-way" with me, or Sera. Give ultimatums or unrealistic demands and it will end very quickly.
I have a pretty good read on Sera, and I can tell you now that she would likely choose to dump that Quizzy.
Hell, if I was in that situation and my gf told me that, I would pretty much assume that I really wasn't important enough to at least make some compromises, and would very quickly end the relationship and move on. It can't be "my way or the hi-way" with me, or Sera. Give ultimatums or unrealistic demands and it will end very quickly.
Is telling someone what your religion is really an "ultimatum?" I brought it up because someone in this thread made the claim that Sera didn't know that a Dalish Inquisitor followed a Dalish belief system before that confrontation; I found it extremely doubtful, but decided that I could at least experiment with making things clear.
Is telling someone what your religion is really an "ultimatum?" I brought it up because someone in this thread made the claim that Sera didn't know that a Dalish Inquisitor followed a Dalish belief system before that confrontation; I found it extremely doubtful, but decided that I could at least experiment with making things clear.
I've taken your past history into account, how you feel about your elf and her beliefs, and how you have detailed that she has no tolerance for Sera's stance on elfy stuff.
The problem is this statement...
I believe in the Creators and she can break up with me here and now if that's a problem.
That tells me personally that I (Sera) am so far below importance compared to your religion that it's not worth pursuing a relationship.
I've taken your past history into account, how you feel about your elf and her beliefs, and how you have detailed that she has no tolerance for Sera's stance on elfy stuff.
I've revised a few things. I think Sera is right insofar as the Dalish are unnecessarily mean to outsiders, even though I do think that she fails to grasp the context of such attitudes (namely, constant persecution).
Is telling someone what your religion is really an "ultimatum?" I brought it up because someone in this thread made the claim that Sera didn't know that a Dalish Inquisitor followed a Dalish belief system before that confrontation; I found it extremely doubtful, but decided that I could at least experiment with making things clear.
I've taken your past history into account, how you feel about your elf and her beliefs, and how you have detailed that she has no tolerance for Sera's stance on elfy stuff.
I see it as less of an ultimatum and more of a 'full disclosure' type deal. More like "This is what I believe, if that is going to cause problems and heartbreak later, maybe it is kinder to both of us if we just go back to being friends."
"I believe in the Creators and she can break up with me here and now if that's a problem" is pretty much an ultimatum in my book.
See my edit above
I think I phrased it poorly, because I wrote it while feeling defensive about a confrontation that wouldn't have happened yet. The thing I'd actually say is something more like "Sometimes I get frustrated with people calling me the Herald of Andraste all the time, when it's the Creators I believe in."
So true, and I have a bias against slang. I find it scary and confusing, and Sera is made up of 1/6 slang.
If not more, true. I love slang, but I can totally see what you mean.
Nah, my brain just works very linearly, so I very rarely get innuendo, because I focus on the primary topic. Haha.
Innuendo, and out the other?
@Xili
It's not always what you say, but how you say it. This has always been a problem for humans since time immemorial.
That's because the Qunari decided to show off by sending in a huge, lumbersome and dreadfully slow dreadnought to sink a dinky little sailing boat, rather than a small, manueverable corvette that could have probably avoided enemy fire entirely?
There isn't a Qunari corvette (equivalent) that's been named in the lore though. It's a dreadnought because that's the cool Qunari ship. Sort of like how the term dreadnought makes little sense as a name for a trireme with guns, but it's become video game slang for 'really big warship'.
At any rate I don't think a smaller ship would be able to outrun magefire, and it was the infantry side of the engagement who drops the ball. They should have just secured the beach, or the Inquisitor should have charged the beach, or they should have sent more than half a dozen to secure each hill, or whatever.
the Qunari plan is goofy but it's basically par for the course in the game
There's a certain RPG logic to expecting named characters to be able to hold out against a superior force of unnamed characters.
At least they didn't rely on time travel.
@Xili
It's not always what you say, but how you say it. This has always been a problem for humans since time immemorial.
I agree that the way it was worded was a little harsh. I would like to see Lavellan talk to her more about her problems with the Dalish during the 'begin romance conversation.' I would like to see her approach the subject in a more neutral way and not get into a fight over it. See if it is going to be a problem before they get in too deep and are in love. I can see Sera reacting differently to someone trying to spare her feelings.
you are playing a game in which the head of a continent-wide organization, the sole individual standing between civilization and chaos, personally goes out all over Thedas with a total of three bodyguards to solve every problem there is
the Qunari plan is goofy but it's basically par for the course in the game
True. I just wish that I was able to crap all over the Qunari plan by having the Inquisitor crush the Venatori on the beach
I thought this beach could use a real party. The Qun may not have demanded it, but I did, and I'm the next best thing.
So true, and I have a bias against slang. I find it scary and confusing, and Sera is made up of 1/6 slang.
If not more, true. I love slang, but I can totally see what you mean.
I love that Sera uses slang, and specifically that she uses British slang. In fact the only thing that annoys me is when the odd Americanism gets dropped in. It doesn't happen too often but when it does I find it jarring, like when she says "a seat needs a butt". "A seat needs a bum" would've been the usual British way of saying that. Or an arse, or even a backside, but not a butt. That's 100% American. There are a few other examples that I can't bring to mind at the moment.
I wonder if the VAs get any say in amending the dialogue, because were I Robyn Addison, I think I would've picked them up on a few things, given the chance...
losing a large warship and 200 seamen to acquire intelligence that could have been gotten in another way is not what I would call "efficient" but then again nothing about that mission is
Could have been a skeleton crew onboard for all we knew, the dreadnought itself presented just enough value to see whether Bull would chose the Qun or his men, after all, he was supposedly one of their top agents?
It's not like we've not seen the Qunari do these sorts of excercises before, in DA2 the Arishok leaks info about the gaatlok (actually saar-qamek) to see if anyone will attempt to steal it, purposefully sacrificing the token amount of guards he assigns to guard it in order to make it look valuable enough? In that case, he deemed the knowledge of the conspirators plotting against them more valuable than a few guards lives? But, if the conspirators hadn't taken the bait, then they weren't enough of a threat to worry about and his men would still be alive, thus he loses nothing?
While it might seem a waste to send a dreadnought on a potentially suicidal mission, the probable reasoning behind doing it that way was because the desired outcome for them was to walk away with both the and Bull's loyalty intact... which means their gamble would have cost them nothing and instead gained them an alliance with the Inquisition? To drag out that (tired) old meme, "Heavy risk, but the priiize".
Furthermore, the Qunari's value on the acceptable lose of various assets seem to be flexible when it comes to the success of the mission?
In DA2, the Arishok was not angry when Hawke admitted to being forced to kill the Arvaraad (he was actually impressed with both the skill it took and Hawke's honesty), because as far as he was concerned, the mission to recapture and kill the Saarebas was all that mattered and it had been accomplished, while those men were unfortunately collateral damage taken while in service to the greater goal?
The Qunari have an extremely alien way of thinking and while they don't usually act without careful consideration, they do seem to be in favour of taking calculated risks if they deem something potentially warrants such gambles to be taken? Losing a gamble however as badly as they can in DAI, is probably why they immediately cut off any prospect of an Alliance and declare Bull Tal-Vashoth?
I love that Sera uses slang, and specifically that she uses British slang. In fact the only thing that annoys me is when the odd Americanism gets dropped in. It doesn't happen too often but when it does I find it jarring, like when she says "a seat needs a butt". "A seat needs a bum" would've been the usual British way of saying that. Or an arse, or even a backside, but not a butt. That's 100% American. There are a few other examples that I can't bring to mind at the moment.
I wonder if the VAs get any say in amending the dialogue, because were I Robyn Addison, I think I would've picked them up on a few things, given the chance...
It's not just Sera who does it, I've noticed that a lot of dialogue in the game (and indeed the entire franchise) is often transatlantic, where people switch between US and UK idioms quite frequently without ryhme or reason? Even the subtitles aren't immune, half the spellings follow the US version, while others favour the UK's (and Canada's) spelling instead?
Might just be a reflection of how the language gap is closing between the two sides of the pond, so that a lot of American phrases and slang has found it's way into British vernacular (although not so much the other way around), to the point where half the time it's US origin isn't even noticed?
(Although I take umbrage with how the police are now sometimes being referred to as "Feds" by inner-city teenagers, using that word is wrong on so many levels, I honestly don't even know where to begin?)
Personally, I'm hoping that the language gap doesn't close entirely, I don't want to take "American English" off my CV as a foreign language?
you are playing a game in which the head of a continent-wide organization, the sole individual standing between civilization and chaos, personally goes out all over Thedas with a total of three bodyguards to solve every problem there is
This made me laugh so much! Thanks for the morning grin and chuckle!
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