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The Quiz is an awfully passive head honcho in this game which is very unfortunate. You're always reacting to things instead of making others do so. I'd like to see this corrected next time. It's like you're playing a heavily armored/powered wuss.

 

 

This is why the prank bit never bothers me. Some of them deserve it.

I wish you could be more 'In your face' with some people. I wanted to yell at Viv for moving my furniture around and I was so mad that you couldn't. The bottom dialogue option was not enough to tell her how mad I was. "Stop messing with my fortress, damn it!"

 

I wish they had kept the 'interrupts' from ME2 and 3. I really liked the romance interrupts and some of the renegade ones were so awesome.

 

I wanted to interrupt Sera with a kiss, so many times.


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Despite not being able to tell off the companions who give rude responses to your gift questions, it's one of the more enjoyable personal quests. My poor Quizzy running around Skyhold fretting over what to get Sera, Vivienne's 'suggestion', priceless.
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I think it's too short-sighted to dismiss the Solas/Sera relationship as simple hate/dislike. Because it isn't actually. If you keep bringing them along together, they will get a lot more friendly and respectful (as much as Sera is willing to show respect in general). Solas acknowledges her strong will and her readiness to act where others (including himself) only talk. He even admits to be jealous of her motivation and determination. It's not mindless bashing, it's rather like checking foreign territory and overcoming differences in the end. They are not the typical friendly banter people, but they are equals and I actually enjoy listening to this; because Solas hardly ever acknowledges others and Sera gets a sort of respect no other NPC gets from him.

 

 

Definitely. I think contentious interactions between characters are often very oversimplified, and then people start to feel like they must choose sides. As though it's always one or the other, even when the two characters are designed to represent different extremes, and sometimes they even strive to understand each other.  

 

I found the dynamic between Solas and Sera very interesting. Sometimes it hints at contempt, and sometimes something much more complex. Two people who are both outsiders in their way, who don't see themselves as being a part of Elven culture, and at opposite ends of an axis in terms of how they react to being outsiders. 

 

My favorite banter might have been the one where Solas told her to look into the breach, and she actually because very pensive for a moment, as though reflecting on something beyond memory that managed to resonate with her, and then she candidly told him how he "makes her head hurt." His response was almost regretful. And lonely. I think that for a moment he wanted to make her understand it as he does, so that at least someone would. 

 

He confuses her, and she frustrates him, but neither reaction is simple. I think it's excellently done. 


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Despite not being able to tell off the companions who give rude responses to your gift questions, it's one of the more enjoyable personal quests. My poor Quizzy running around Skyhold fretting over what to get Sera, Vivienne's 'suggestion', priceless.

Vivienne's suggestion is the best because you don't really expect her to actually help. Sure, she was trying to insult you, but Sera really likes it. That is one reason to keep her around, probably the only reason if she hates you.



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Sera is too cute here:

 

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http://www.deviantar...Squad-534461195


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Sera is too cute here:

 

dragon_hunting_squad_by_acerbicescapist-

 

http://www.deviantar...Squad-534461195

I love that one! Mostly because that is the party that I always bring to hunt dragons. Except my Inky is a sexy lady elf who is dating Sera.

 

If it was my party, Sera's caption would say something like: 'Damn! She is so hot when she gets into battle mode.'


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Cute Sera in ME armour. I think she is meant to be an infiltrator here.

 

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She basically seems to assume that anyone who identifies as an elf hates her for not being elven enough and decides to preemptively shower them with contempt even if they don't. We've seen examples of elves being truly horrible to those they deem insufficiently elven, such as Velanna or Keeper Thelhen from The Masked Empire. Solas isn't really anything like that level.

 

She's had years of experience of people doing exactly that, and Solas says things to her like "You are the furthest from what you were meant to be."

 

It is worse if you are an elf too. It's like he is disappointed that you would even think about dating Sera. 

 

He really seemed to have an air of "I thought you were better than this" about him when my Inky asked him about it.

 

Cute Sera in ME armour. I think she is meant to be an infiltrator here.

 

That's absolutely the perfect choice for her. And the picture really is adorable!



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She's had years of experience of people doing exactly that, and Solas says things to her like "You are the furthest from what you were meant to be."

 

He really seemed to have an air of "I thought you were better than this" about him when my Inky asked him about it.

 

That's absolutely the perfect choice for her. And the picture really is adorable!

I thought that that was really cruel of him. Her reaction kind of breaks my heart too. "Well, I’ve definitely heard p*ss like this before" 

I just wanted to hug her and tell her to never change.

 

I would love to see a fic of her in ME universe. I think it would be awesome. I'm sure she would hate Miranda but constantly stare at her butt anyways. She would love Tali and Garrus and they would become her BFFs.  The possibilities are endless.


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Sera is too cute here:

 

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http://www.deviantar...Squad-534461195

 

These three are always my dragon-hunting party as well. I especially like Dorian's comment when approaching the Hivernal: Oh look, a dragon. What a perfect way to ruin our day. And then there's Sera's comment when approaching the Kaltenzahn: Ooh that's a good one. We're gonna get a closer look, yeah?

 

The Ferelden Frostback and Abyssal High Dragon have the best intros though, in large part to Sera and Bull.


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These three are always my dragon-hunting party as well. I especially like Dorian's comment when approaching the Hivernal: Oh look, a dragon. What a perfect way to ruin our day. And then there's Sera's comment when approaching the Kaltenzahn: Ooh that's a good one. We're gonna get a closer look, yeah?

 

The Ferelden Frostback and Abyssal High Dragon have the best intros though, in large part to Sera and Bull.

I also liked Bull and Sera's reactions to seeing the Vinsomer fighting a giant on the storm coast.

Bull: Now that is badass!

Sera: (laughs) We can watch, yeah?

 

I also like her bit of banter after killing the dragon in Crestwood.

"Big heroes, us. That was... that was great." I just love how excited she sounds.


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I also like her bit of banter after killing the dragon in Crestwood.
"Big heroes, us. That was... that was great." I just love how excited she sounds.


Josie hires Sera to help with Inquisition recruitment:

Sera: Join the Inquisition right?! Get to help people! Travel to interesting places yeah?! See cool dragons! And kill them! *big grin with a double thumbs up*
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Josie hires Sera to help with Inquisition recruitment:

Sera: Join the Inquisition right?! Get to help people! Travel to interesting places yeah?! See cool dragons! And kill them! *big grin with a double thumbs up*

Lol. Awesome.

 

It would totally work on me!



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Ok, I just gotta.. because, I just do... (I hardly ever get to play with my emote icons!)

 

43393.gif: I wanna show Sera I'm serious about her.

80810.gif: Any ideas about a gift that would say it?

 

32133.gif: Oh for... seriously? This is why you've bothered me!

32135.gif: Just shave something rude into your privates, dear. She won't get the redundancy.

 

47083.gif: Are you sure? Anything is worth considering.

 

32155.gif:Of course, my dear. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm doing anything else

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43394.gif:

:kissing:: Best gift ever!


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Cute Sera pic


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Thinking out loud: Who do you reckon could be viewed as Sera's Mass Effect equivalent?

 

I want to say Jack.


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#97293
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Lol. Sera seems like she would sleep like that though. Not sure I believe the drool bit, but this was really cute.



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Lol. Sera seems like she would sleep like that though. Not sure I believe the drool bit, but this was really cute.

 

All I know is someone has some serious sleep apnea here!  :lol:


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Thinking out loud: Who do you reckon could be viewed as Sera's Mass Effect equivalent?

 

I want to say Jack.

 

I'd say Jack but Jack doesn't have quite the sense of humor and is far angrier at the world. But yeah Jack.



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I'd say Jack but Jack doesn't have quite the sense of humor and is far angrier at the world. But yeah Jack.

That's what I was thinking. Jack is a little too angry, but she's probably the closest analogy we have. 

 

I think BioWare has a tendency to write character equivalents across their various games and series. It's subtle at times, but if you've played enough of their games, it's not hard to observe the pattern. It's almost as though they are using templates specifically put for character writing. Not that that's a bad thing.



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That's what I was thinking. Jack is a little too angry, but she's probably the closest analogy we have. 

 

I think BioWare has a tendency to write character equivalents across their various games and series. It's subtle at times, but if you've played enough of their games, it's not hard to observe the pattern. It's almost as though they are using templates specifically put for character writing. Not that that's a bad thing.

 

I agree. At least if they are using templates the characters are reasonably dissimilar. I mean I can imagine Sera meeting Jack...

 

"Oi! Lighten up baldy!" 


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I agree. At least if they are using templates the characters are reasonably dissimilar. I mean I can imagine Sera meeting Jack...

 

"Oi! Lighten up baldy!" 

That would be a meeting of hilarious proportions.


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Thinking out loud: Who do you reckon could be viewed as Sera's Mass Effect equivalent?

 

I want to say Jack.

I would say it's a tie between Tali and Jack. Tali is adorable and sweet like Sera but Jack has the 'F*ck the man, raise a little hell' attitude.


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Jack doesn't really remind me a whole lot of Sera in personality or story. It's not like there are supposed to be equivalents in both franchises.