How does the cookie scene trigger? I never got it on my first playthrough. Is it because I told her not to do the pranks?
How does the cookie scene trigger? I never got it on my first playthrough. Is it because I told her not to do the pranks?
I suspect that it's approval-based at the least. She's telling you stuff about her past because she likes and trusts you. It could also be that turning down the pranks stops you from being able to get the scene even with otherwise high approval. I don't know as I've not done that.
elven Vortigern needs to happen at some point in DA lore
*Googles Vortigern* Ah right. While I had a rough idea of the first Anglo-Saxons in Britain being invited mercenaries I wasn't aware of or had forgotten the names involved. It reminds me in a way of the native peoples of Mexico who allied with Cortés against the Aztecs. Yes such an idea would be fun in DA lore.
I love the way the Inquisitor says "Why didn't you take their weapons?!" at the start of the fight and Sera just laughs and says "Because no breaches."
Sera is a lot of fun to have in your party too. I always put her in my party right then and she has a permanent place until I beat the game.
Her laugh is the best part for me. 
I have more fanfic, guys! There's Cold Feet, which has mentions of Sera/Adaar though no real Sera in it (but it does have Adoribull being adorable, so), and For She Who Trusts in the Maker, which is Sera and my Adaar exploring their religious differences. And eating scones. And pulling pranks.
*Googles Vortigern* Ah right. While I had a rough idea of the first Anglo-Saxons in Britain being invited mercenaries I wasn't aware of or had forgotten the names involved. It reminds me in a way of the native peoples of Mexico who allied with Cortés against the Aztecs. Yes such an idea would be fun in DA lore.
yeah that's not it
Vortigern is a figure of medieval British mythology, and only pops up comparatively 'late' (specifically, the eighth century). The name means something like "High Ruler" in Old Welsh. Many historians identify Vortigern as being the same as an unnamed individual in Gildas' sermon De excidio et conquestu Britanniae. Gildas, ostensibly, is a relatively early source, and is certainly the earliest writer on the 'coming of the Saxons' (usually referred to as the adventus) available to historians. So identifying Vortigern with this person in Gildas is supposed to lend the later account in Bede a considerable amount of credibility.
There are all sorts of problems with this reasoning, which have been drawn out by innumerable scholars from Dumville to Halsall. Just as there are problems with the primary-school story of the adventus by Hengist and Horsa and all that nonsense, and problems with the story of King Arthur. But let that go.
Part of the reason that Vortigern became associated with this figure in Gildas is that the figure in Gildas is called superbo tyranno, or the "Proud Tyrant". Some historians have thought that this is a reference to the meaning of Vortigern's "name", that is to say "High Ruler". Often, people will refer to Vortigern as the "Proud Tyrant" directly.
There are some superficial connections that can be drawn between elven history and that of the Romano-British/Welsh, but the one I was going for was that: Vortigern, the so-called "Proud Tyrant". You pointed out that Sera particularly disliked pride, whether it was from Lady Emmald or from Dalish elves. So I thought it would be appropriate to take a figure from history and myth who has become known for his pride, and apply him to elven history, to make somebody that Sera would probably loathe beyond all reason.
I wouldn't seriously expect tales of that time to be much more than legend perhaps based on a kernel of truth, but a fun story is a fun story, and it would be interesting to learn that some Elven chief invited humans into Elvenhan to help only have them turn on her/him and the Elves in general. Is there a reason given for Vortigern's pride, or is it just a name?
(I suspect that the reason the Dalish have Celtic accents is precisely because of those similarities.)
I wouldn't seriously expect tales of that time to be much more than legend perhaps based on a kernel of truth, but a fun story is a fun story, and it would be interesting to learn that some Elven chief invited humans into Elvenhan to help only have them turn on her/him and the Elves in general. Is there a reason given for Vortigern's pride, or is it just a name?
(I suspect that the reason the Dalish have Celtic accents is precisely because of those similarities.)
Others, who modify more traditional readings, suggest that the proud tyrant appellation has more to do with some sort of hypothetical effort to use the Saxons to gain control of Britain for himself, a plan that supposedly backfired.
That totally sounds like something Solas might have done... 
How does the cookie scene trigger? I never got it on my first playthrough. Is it because I told her not to do the pranks?
No, you can refuse to do the pranks (though if you're mean about it, you'll take a big approval hit). It's approval based.
That totally sounds like something Solas might have done...
Speaking of which, what happens if Sera twigs to who Spoilas really is?
Speaking of which, what happens if Sera twigs to who Spoilas really is?
That will be interesting to see if the upcoming DLC is truly about him...
That will be interesting to see if the upcoming DLC is truly about him...
It seems the logical place to take things. On the other hand I'm wary of DA plot hooks disappearing into the Deep Roads.
No, you can refuse to do the pranks (though if you're mean about it, you'll take a big approval hit). It's approval based.
Hmm, well she still sounded like she was my friend by the end of the game. She still wanted to stay in the epilogue.
Speaking of which, what happens if Sera twigs to who Spoilas really is?
Sera: Ha! I knew his head was cramped up thousand years ago.
Hmm, well she still sounded like she was my friend by the end of the game. She still wanted to stay in the epilogue.
Must have to be really high approval, then. I refused the pranks (without being mean), but did all of the Red Jenny caches (and the majority of stashes in the Winter Palace) and she approved of the majority of my decisions. I triggered the cookie scene even before completing her personal quest, so it's not that, either.
Note: I'm talking about my second, current playthrough here. In my first, she liked my Inq a lot but it still did not trigger the cookie scene. I also hadn't done any of the caches/stashes and was mean to her about refusing to do the pranks. So it must be a really high approval threshold.
Sera: Ha! I knew his head was cramped up thousand years ago.
When you put it like that, I guess she had him figured out all along.
Don't think anyone commented on this yet. Looks like Sera is tickling the Inquisitor (or someone with dark hair), looks good.
Don't think anyone commented on this yet. Looks like Sera is tickling the Inquisitor (or someone with dark hair), looks good.
Yup. On Tumblr it's captioned "When the gf discovers how ticklish you are."
D'awwww.... Here's a positive spin on "racist" Sera...
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Is "you're not qunari" something Bull actually says in game?
I like how her hair is longer before the game starts.
Is "you're not qunari" something Bull actually says in game?
I like how her hair is longer before the game starts.
Yes. Qunari Inquisitors can chat up Iron Bull about the Qun, but with extra dialogue. In one of them, he politely corrects them, "No, you're not Qunari. Qunari isn't a race. (But qunari is.) You're Vashoth."
I can understand how it could sting, but he's also right, so...*shrug*
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