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#99826
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I have to force myself not to take out this party at all times...

 

It's hard isn't it? I sometimes mix in Blackwall. I am having to now cause I am replaying the dlc's with my old Elf Character/Mara and Cass has become the Divine. Needing a tank I've taken Blackwall. I find I have very little interest in Viv, Solas, Bull or Cole. 



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I can't imagine playing without Sera. She's like the mascot and to a certain extent the soul of the group i.e. the reminder of people from humbler things and what it's all really about.

 

I guess everyone gets their favorites after playing for a bit but my permanent party has gotten to be Sera, Cass and Dorian. <3

Mine is Blackwall/Sera/Dorian or Solas.


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#99828
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Mine is Blackwall/Sera/Dorian or Solas.

 

That's a good combo. The best dialogue back and forths can be Sera v Dorian, Dorian v Blackwall, and Sera and Solas.



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Well, that's objectively false, as the way they're treated most certainly creates distinctions (also, the fact that they can't have children who carry their characteristics with humans).

 

Being accepted by the Red Jennies in all likeliness influenced her inability to see (or want to see) much a distinction between elves and humans. The organization seems to be almost entirely meritocratic with elves and humans being allowed in with no hint of typical Thedosian anti-elf racism. Seeing poor elves and humans having to suffer from the same oppressive Orlesian nobles and chevaliers also probably put into her head that their basically the same and that any notion that elves are treated differently is, in her words, "stupid". Plus, there's the whole "I don't want to be seen as an elf because elfy elves like nature, halla, history, scary elf ruins, making elf babies, magic and stories about how humans took everything from them. I don't fit that sort of culture, but if elfy elves are right and that's what being elven is all about than what does make me? Less of an elf? A flat ear? A wrong thing? A nothing? Well, that makes me feel like crap so how about I just be a non-racial, poor person that fights against nobles that try to hurt the innocent. Yeah, that's why better."

 

And for the reproduction issues. Well, Sera is a lesbian so that's kind of a non-issue for her personally, and judging from a banter with Solas she hates the idea that elves must mate with elves to ensure the continuation of the race . I mean, at best Sera might ended up adopting a child, which based on her desire to have a conventional wedding and marriage, and her talk of passing her baking skills down one day, that might be a thing that she'll actually do at some point. 

 

 

Then the question becomes "how can she be led to see it?" Maybe just explaining things the way I've explained them here would help?

 

This isn't exactly the most usefully answer, but I'd imagine that giving her time to figure it by herself would be the most effective method. Sera's that person you knew years ago who acted like an overly defensive arsehole that didn't take criticism all that well, but years later managed to grow up a little, get over themselves and reconsider earlier prejudices. 

 

I mean, that's basically what happens in Trespasser. 


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This isn't exactly the most usefully answer, but I'd imagine that giving her time to figure it by herself would be the most effective method. Sera's that person you knew years ago who acted like an overly defensive arsehole that didn't take criticism all that well, but years later managed to grow up a little, get over themselves and reconsider earlier prejudices. 

 

I mean, that's basically what happens in Trespasser. 

 

Yup. I think she's the kind of person who learns by experience more than by conversation.



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Being accepted by the Red Jennies in all likeliness influenced her inability to see (or want to see) much a distinction between elves and humans. The organization seems to be almost entirely meritocratic with elves and humans being allowed in with no hint of typical Thedosian anti-elf racism. Seeing poor elves and humans having to suffer from the same oppressive Orlesian nobles and chevaliers also probably put into her head that their basically the same and that any notion that elves are treated differently is, in her words, "stupid". Plus, there's the whole "I don't want to be seen as an elf because elfy elves like nature, halla, history, scary elf ruins, making elf babies, magic and stories about how humans took everything from them. I don't fit that sort of culture, but if elfy elves are right and that's what being elven is all about than what does make me? Less of an elf? A flat ear? A wrong thing? A nothing? Well, that makes me feel like crap so how about I just be a non-racial, poor person that fights against nobles that try to hurt the innocent. Yeah, that's why better."

Statistically speaking, I find it incredibly unlikely that the organization would be populated solely, or even in a majority, by non-racists.

 

 

This isn't exactly the most usefully answer, but I'd imagine that giving her time to figure it by herself would be the most effective method. Sera's that person you knew years ago who acted like an overly defensive arsehole that didn't take criticism all that well, but years later managed to grow up a little, get over themselves and reconsider earlier prejudices. 

 

I mean, that's basically what happens in Trespasser. 

I need a name for this phenomenon, because I'm certain I'm not the only one who experienced it... I'm tempted to call it the Isabela Syndrome, as that's where I first noticed it. It's what you get when you'd be happy to romance someone after character development that occurs after the chance to begin romancing them has passed.



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Agreeded.

#99833
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Welcome, new bloods.

 

Welcome among us, and sing the Seranade long and proud...

 

You might not know me, but I used to be a regular a long time ago... Before it all fell apart.

 

Now I drop by from time to time, to marvel at cosplay, art and the likes...

So, when're we having that 4k party that's long overdue?


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#99834
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So, when're we having that 4k party that's long overdue?


The more you post the sooner it will be. ;)
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There's no party like a Seranade 4k party.



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Yup. I think she's the kind of person who learns by experience more than by conversation.

When life hits you over the head with TRUE FACTS, some of them are bound to sink in eventually. :D


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I want to see tiny Sera bundled up in a huge fluffy parka in the wintertime. I do not know why.
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I want to see tiny Sera bundled up in a huge fluffy parka in the wintertime. I do not know why.

We could've used some alternate outfits in Emprise du Lion. Bull and Sera in particular seem conspicuously under-dressed in that snow...

Edit: Dorian, too...
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Dalish Inky in race-specific armors...

 

(Their armors have them actually walk barefoot, don't forget...)



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Dalish Inky in race-specific armors...

(Their armors have them actually walk barefoot, don't forget...)

Solas too. Brr...
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We could've used some alternate outfits in Emprise du Lion. Bull and Sera in particular seem conspicuously under-dressed in that snow...

Edit: Dorian, too...


Bull's a particularly weird case, because on the one hand we know qunari skin is tougher than that of other races... but on the other hand, didn't qunari enemies in DAO have a weakness to cold damage, presumably because they're from a more Mediterranean climate?

There's no excuse for Dorian lmao. He hates the cold.
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Did anyone else know that Sera can fly? 


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Did anyone else know that Sera can fly? 

 

Well I've seen her levitate, so I guess that's the logical next step...

 

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I want to see tiny Sera bundled up in a huge fluffy parka in the wintertime. I do not know why.

 

I'd like the option to have some of those bulky Avaar coats added to the party especially for Jaws of Haakon.

 

Sera would need a big bulky coat if she were where I am today. Jeebers it's cold!



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We could've used some alternate outfits in Emprise du Lion. Bull and Sera in particular seem conspicuously under-dressed in that snow...

Edit: Dorian, too...

And Solas with his poor frostbitten toes?
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#99847
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Spoiler

 

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I'd like the option to have some of those bulky Avaar coats added to the party especially for Jaws of Haakon.

 

Sera would need a big bulky coat if she were where I am today. Jeebers it's cold!

You can. Those coats are a part of the Spoils of the Avvar DLC. 



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Awes! Such a cute pic of Sera and her wifey :)