well the scene I saw was with an npc giving you a quest . So hopefully its more deep and more choices with your romance and companions .
As much as I love the wheel system . I honestly feel like its very very limited if I compare it with older games like Baldur's Gate 2 and Kotor games .
Exemples:
(kotor2)
BG2 (SAO):
DA2 (Personal Screen) :
Yes agree. Its slicker but less nuanced. I certainly wouldn't say no to a sub tree on the wheel, like the "Investigate" option, that opens up a romance specific selection of responses. As a character you know you find the other person attractive and want to continue a conversation with that as an agenda, much the same as you know you want to know more about a subject and are able to ask more questions under "Investigate".
Yes agree. Its slicker but less nuanced. I certainly wouldn't say no to a sub tree on the wheel, like the "Investigate" option, that opens up a romance specific selection of responses. As a character you know you find the other person attractive and want to continue a conversation with that as an agenda, much the same as you know you want to know more about a subject and are able to ask more questions under "Investigate".
Even the Investigate tree wasn't that great . If you recall proprely in Mass effect , it had 2 options that had to be filled with renegade/Paragon . Then 2 others reply . So that give you 7 possibles replys . Not enough for 3 emotional state .
Sure the games isn't about all the chit chat...but its a part of it . It's an rpg story and dialogue oriented . And its using a new engine therefor...we can hope for more and not less since everything else (design , mechanism , land mass) have been all upgraded .
Romance lines will be in a subwheel, according to Gaider.
Confirmed? Oh man thats cool. Thanks.
Awkward Kossith here we come 
Even the Investigate tree wasn't that great . If you recall proprely in Mass effect , it had 2 options that had to be filled with renegade/Paragon . Then 2 others reply . So that give you 7 possibles replys . Not enough for 3 emotional state .
Sure the games isn't about all the chit chat...but its a part of it . It's an rpg story and dialogue oriented . And its using a new engine therefor...we can hope for more and not less since everything else (design , mechanism , land mass) have been all upgraded .
Well I wasn't so much thinking if paragon/renegade options which you had to 'unlock', more a sub wheel which was full of romance specific dialogue. But The Elder King says Mr Gaider confirmed there was one, which is best option for me.
more a sub wheel
whats that ? 
Well since we have to stick to topic , I made this (tis 1st try) 
If you wanna make your own here is the Link: http://portalation.c...ff/dialogue.php
(N7) I'm hoping you pick this and make some fun stuff 
whats that ?
This is not my Hawke, just a random I found on Google:
The Investigate option opens a completely separate dialogue wheel that allows you to probe the person you are talking about further. This is a sub-wheel from from the main conversation wheel. It seems there will now be one of these full of dialog options for romance, cheeky, flirty, shy, awkward... hopefully. This si good news in my opinion.
Seriously ? Thats awesome...but...lets hope it is true and we get mature fun stuff (not kinky or dirty) . I mean mature that you are acting mature..nothing teenager akward romance (and yes there are some like that ) . In short give me that line that made Darth Vader popular for years till today : SERA I'M YOUR LI! or something like that 
As much as I love the wheel system . I honestly feel like its very very limited if I compare it with older games like Baldur's Gate 2 and Kotor games .
No it isn't. The wheel has 5 dialogue options, plus a sixth which opens another wheel of 5. So the limit is 10 options, though they rarely use them all. DA:O's text list was hard coded to cut off more than six options, so technically that was the more limited system.
The thing is that the text list has very little cost to offer the player a dialogue line, so they'll tend to give you all six even though they all have exactly the same response or less than six responses shared between them. The KotOR2 pic you linked is from a scene where the Exile talks to themselves with no input on anything happening at all.
Beyond that text list systems frequently give you three or less options with no consequence, and DA2 frequently gave you four or five branching options.
Even the Investigate tree wasn't that great . If you recall proprely in Mass effect , it had 2 options that had to be filled with renegade/Paragon . Then 2 others reply . So that give you 7 possibles replys . Not enough for 3 emotional state .
The paragon/renegade options could be used in other situations for other things, but Mass Effect's use of the wheel was pretty terrible anyway.
well it felt limited to me..maybe I just like the box format
well it felt limited to me..maybe I just like the box format
Wheels are futuristic.
The system is limited, but so are lists. It's important to note the voiced-wheel-thing is sort of new, so people are still coming to grips with how it works, and how to use it well.
600 posts, yay.
No it isn't. The wheel has 5 dialogue options, plus a sixth which opens another wheel of 5. So the limit is 10 options, though they rarely use them all. DA:O's text list was hard coded to cut off more than six options, so technically that was the more limited system.
The thing is that the text list has very little cost to offer the player a dialogue line, so they'll tend to give you all six even though they all have exactly the same response or less than six responses shared between them. The KotOR2 pic you linked is from a scene where the Exile talks to themselves with no input on anything happening at all.
Beyond that text list systems frequently give you three or less options with no consequence, and DA2 frequently gave you four or five branching options.
The paragon/renegade options could be used in other situations for other things, but Mass Effect's use of the wheel was pretty terrible anyway.
This is true actually. I think any issues are more about implementation than potential. Certainly when it came to DA2 I don't remember there being more than one romance option on the wheel which certainly didn;t allow the player to approach romance with different styles.
This is not so much about getting different responses but being able to speak in our inquisitors voice - A Kossith who is socially awkward is unlikely to be overly flirty. For example, I think the first romance option for Merril was something like "How about a kiss then?" or words to that affect - my slightly pompous warrior would never have said that to a young girl struggling to fit in in a new environment as it came over a little exploitative (for him).
If the new system has a romance sub wheel thats alllll good with me.
This is true actually. I think any issues are more about implementation than potential. Certainly when it came to DA2 I don't remember there being more than one romance option on the wheel which certainly didn;t allow the player to approach romance with different styles.
I think there were some occasions with two flirt options at once, but only after picking an initial flirt option. So you had to already be riding the flirt train so to speak.
BioWare's approach to romance seems to change a lot each game. I get the impression they're doubling down for Inquisition though, so I'm expecting more sophistication this time round.
Since Solas is romantically invested in elven women only, I really want to know if he would attempt to flirt with Sera. I mean the only reason I see for Solas being that way, is the thing about elfs dying as a race and all that.
The funny part is to see if he lecture Sera on the species survival, letting her know that Sera should be with a male elf, I would expect her to punching him the face lol
Since Solas is romantically invested in elven women only, I really want to know if he would attempt to flirt with Sera. I mean the only reason I see for Solas being that way, is the thing about elfs dying as a race and all that.
The funny part is to see if he lecture Sera on the species survival, letting her know that Sera should be with a male elf, I would expect her to punching him the face lol
Interesting view. Could lead to friction between the Inquisitor and Solas which needs to be addressed as a plot point. Like the sound of that actually.
Since Solas is romantically invested in elven women only, I really want to know if he would attempt to flirt with Sera. I mean the only reason I see for Solas being that way, is the thing about elfs dying as a race and all that.
The funny part is to see if he lecture Sera on the species survival, letting her know that Sera should be with a male elf, I would expect her to punching him the face lol
I don't really care about his reasons, but I would love to see him come on to Sera only to get brutally shot down. With Varric to offer commentary.
The funny part is to see if he lecture Sera on the species survival, letting her know that Sera should be with a male elf, I would expect her to punching him the face lol
I don't think Solas is one to lecture people about how to live their life.
Still, it'be delighfully awkward if he started hitting on Sera, I mean even relatively social people have horrible pick up lines in Bioware games, so imagine this chap who lived his life as an hermit
Since Solas is romantically invested in elven women only, I really want to know if he would attempt to flirt with Sera. I mean the only reason I see for Solas being that way, is the thing about elfs dying as a race and all that.
The funny part is to see if he lecture Sera on the species survival, letting her know that Sera should be with a male elf, I would expect her to punching him the face lol
But Sera, the Elvhen need your ovaries!
He might just be mad keen on Dalish chicks though, so Sera could be everything he despises, or something.
I don't really care about his reasons, but I would love to see him come on to Sera only to get brutally shot down. With Varric to offer commentary.
Varric should always commentate.
Since Solas is romantically invested in elven women only, I really want to know if he would attempt to flirt with Sera. I mean the only reason I see for Solas being that way, is the thing about elfs dying as a race and all that.
The funny part is to see if he lecture Sera on the species survival, letting her know that Sera should be with a male elf, I would expect her to punching him the face lol
Might be funny as a 1 off joke but could get uncomfortable if it goes beyond that, not sure id like him repeatedly mentioning that she should get together with a male elf over some kind of duty to her race
Might be funny as a 1 off joke but could get uncomfortable if it goes beyond that, not sure id like him repeatedly mentioning that she should get together with a male elf over some kind of duty to her race
The funny part is to see if he lecture Sera on the species survival, letting her know that Sera should be with a male elf, I would expect her to punching him the face lol
Nah, I will punch him in the face if he ever pulls that sh!t to Sera. 
Edit: btw, i messed around with the Keep last night.... it's so droolworthy. 
Edit: btw, i messed around with the Keep last night.... it's so droolworthy.
I know, right.
So awesome.
Now we just need something to import all those world states into.
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