Well, said companions are the most obvious source for learning such a specialization, and are far more accessible for training than many other sources. The specializations in DA2 come out of nowhere, pretty much.
Well Bioware already said we wouldn't learn them from companions
Even in DAO we didn't learn all the specs from Companions
It's one reason I prefer Merrill over Isabela.
Really ?
Merrill has pointy ears.
Easy win over Izzy. Mere human!
Really ?
Wherein lies your confusion?
Merrill has pointy ears.
Easy win over Izzy. Mere human!
But Izzy wears no pants...
the exuberant extroverted ones are frequently not people I connect terribly well to. It's one reason I prefer Merrill over Isabela.
Confusion started at that word.......exuberant-thingy.......
Isabela is awesome. Merrill is more like a sister to me.
But Izzy wears no pants...
True, Izzy was great for a fu... fun time.
True, Izzy was great for a fu... fun time.
It was more like a quick time event.
Fun time? 
You almost slipped there.............
GAH! TAKE THAT BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can you say no to this Vavavoum ? On second though...keep saying no ! she is all...M.I.N.E.
I love Merrill to death and find Isabela's selfishness to be rather obnoxious. My opinion of her is matched by Anders', though I'm somewhat more charitable than he.
Confusion started at that word.......exuberant-thingy.......
Energetically upbeat and active in a loud way. Which would seem to fit Sera more than Isabela, actually...
Isabela is awesome. Merrill is more like a sister to me.
I've never liked this line of reasoning, I have to say. It has shades of somehow looking down on Merrill due to perceived vulnerability; Isabela does the same thing, even with the best of intentions.
Or maybe i'm more attracted to Isabela than Merrill.
Err...that one (Bela pic) was actually aimed at Serza lol
Ok..but Bela for 1) come around , 2) she is more mature then Merrill......how do you balance that ? Selfish vs maturity ? And in a way , wasn't merrill selfish too ? she couldn't force her idea of 'wanna get our past back either they like it or not' and end up choosing the exile choice even if it hurted the keeper (in so many ways) . Which had bad consequences as well , forcing her clan to stick around . (in act 3..I think it was) merrill even ask the keeper why they were still there . I always saw it , that the Keeper was there hoping merril will come back saying the mirror thingy didn't work .
Don't take this as me trying to judge you for liking merrill . I just wanna understand , cose most of the peoples who don't like Bela , usualy..go 'cose she sleep around' ...or cose 'She is a thief and I have the hot for the Arishok' .
My Hawke found a kindred spirit in Isabela, my Hawke was just as promiscuous as Isabela (only with Women though since my Hawke is a lesbian) and my Hawke hid things with humor since in my head canon both Bethany and Carver die and Hawke also loses her mother so she hides her pain and everything else behind humor similiar to Isabela, my Hawke isn't selfish like Bela but Bela becomes unselfish because she falls in love with Hawke. My Hawke was to rough for Merril so they are just good friends/sisters
Or maybe i'm more attracted to Isabela than Merrill.
Apologies. I might be hypersensitive to people seemingly looking down on Merrill. Sometimes it feels as though I have to be on edge to defend her constantly.
Or maybe i'm more attracted to Isabela than Merrill.
You like big boats, you cannot lie.
Err...that one (Bela pic) was actually aimed at Serza lol
Ok..but Bela for 1) come around , 2) she is more mature then Merrill......how do you balance that ? Selfish vs maturity ? And in a way , wasn't merrill selfish too ? she couldn't force her idea of 'wanna get our past back either they like it or not' and end up choosing the exile choice even if it hurted the keeper (in so many ways) . Which had bad consequences as well , forcing her clan to stick around . (in act 3..I think it was) merrill even ask the keeper why they were still there . I always saw it , that the Keeper was there hoping merril will come back saying the mirror thingy didn't work .
Don't take this as me trying to judge you for liking merrill . I just wanna understand , cose most of the peoples who don't like Bela , usualy..go 'cose she sleep around' ...or cose 'She is a thief and I have the hot for the Arishok' .
Don't get me started on Marethari, treacherous ****** that she is.
The fact that Isabela does basically start a war due to... very silly paranoia (srsly, we can take Castillon if we have to!) is a point against her, yes, but I also find it sort of ridiculous how many rivalry points you can get simply by being charitable, and the fact that she'll actually get annoyed at you for it.
I remember playing DA2 for the first time, getting up to the point where I met Merrill, and literally cursing and shouting NO out loud, because I knew immediately that I was not going to be able to romance her. The nervous voice, the big, shimmering eyes that looked like they were full of tears, and the dialogue all added up to the opposite of romantically attractive to me.
I did get to appreciate her character, over time, and I wouldn't hate others who enjoy her romance, I just have very defined tastes in my old age, and as a fictional character, Merrill wasn't my cup of tea.
I liked Isabela from the beginning, but I wasn't really into her romance until the second or third playthrough. She even left me on the first playthrough because I was too busy worrying about Anders and Fenris's rivalry/friendship points in the first act.
I plan to spend more time with Sera and the other female characters from the beginning this time, even though I'm still a little annoyed at the ratio of companions. In DA2 it sucked feeling like I really *wanted* to appreciate the female characters more, but because the guys in the game are "louder" in their needs, they got more attention.
Well..my main in DAO was a dalish....so , was kinda red when I saw how merril screw up the clan . But , again I guess its a matter of how you view said NPC and how you solve stuff and how you care about said companion .
I did Bela rival and friendship , and I must say..even though it was alot harder to get her as a friend . It was worth it . Loved her even more as a friendship . But often I go rival...cose it match my mage who is charming .
I remember playing DA2 for the first time, getting up to the point where I met Merrill, and literally cursing and shouting NO out loud, because I knew immediately that I was not going to be able to romance her. The nervous voice, the big, shimmering eyes that looked like they were full of tears, and the dialogue all added up to the opposite of romantically attractive to me.
I did get to appreciate her character, over time, and I wouldn't hate others who enjoy her romance, I just have very defined tastes in my old age, and as a fictional character, Merrill wasn't my cup of tea.
I liked Isabela from the beginning, but I wasn't really into her romance until the second or third playthrough. She even left me on the first playthrough because I was too busy worrying about Anders and Fenris's rivalry/friendship points in the first act.
I plan to spend more time with Sera and the other female characters from the beginning this time, even though I'm still a little annoyed at the ratio of companions. In DA2 it sucked feeling like I really *wanted* to appreciate the female characters more, but because the guys in the game are "louder" in their needs, they got more attention.
What do you find attractive, then, that Merrill lacks?
I like Merrill but it does feel awkward at times, she's so naive and innocent, a little too much on further playthroughs. Her social awkwardness can be endearing at times but as a romance option to import into the Keep, erm I'm gonna go back to Izzy.
I must be the odd one who is attracted to both.
I must be the odd one who is attracted to both.
Nothing odd about it. Both are hot.
I like Merrill but it does feel awkward at times, she's so naive and innocent, a little too much on further playthroughs. Her social awkwardness can be endearing at times but as a romance option to import into the Keep, erm I'm gonna go back to Izzy.
I have no problem with social awkwardness so long as the people involved are well-intentioned.
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