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Threatens execution..........claims to be a better person. I are confused. :P

??? isn't that what a viscount does? Execute things? LOL.

And yea! I bet she has a lot of experience eith being "shared". Izzy for everyone!

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In a way , you could say that Merril really did listen to the Keeper teaching . I mean , merrill did what she though was right and was her risk to take out of love for her clans . And the Keeper merethari did what she did cose she loved merrill . Also one thing to notice here , is that Merrill get taunted not once but twice by 2 Pride Demons . Once if you take her in the fade to help fenyrel and the 2nd time is the demon in the mirror she is trying to fix . One can say , it was love + Duty (keeper) VS love+Pride (merril) . 

From the wiki : 

I think that Marethari stopped loving Merrill long ago. Whatever was there was replaced with Audacity's influence.



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In a way , you could say that Merril really did listen to the Keeper teaching . I mean , merrill did what she though was right and was her risk to take out of love for her clans . And the Keeper merethari did what she did cose she loved merrill . Also one thing to notice here , is that Merrill get taunted not once but twice by 2 Pride Demons . Once if you take her in the fade to help fenyrel and the 2nd time is the demon in the mirror she is trying to fix . One can say , it was love + Duty (keeper) VS love+Pride (merril) . 

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In a way , you could say that Merril really did listen to the Keeper teaching . I mean , merrill did what she though was right and was her risk to take out of love for her clans . And the Keeper merethari did what she did cose she loved merrill . Also one thing to notice here , is that Merrill get taunted not once but twice by 2 Pride Demons . Once if you take her in the fade to help fenyrel and the 2nd time is the demon in the mirror she is trying to fix . One can say , it was love + Duty (keeper) VS love+Pride (merril) . 

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Yup, its a very bittersweet ending to Merril's personal quests.



#12154
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I think that Marethari stopped loving Merrill long ago. Whatever was there was replaced with Audacity's influence.

 

I disagree


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#12155
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Well, how fortunate that you can now bask in my own rage as a substitute.

 

 

Ah, yes, just one more way to be insufferably f*cking patronizing.

 

I despise Merrill's rivalmance with a fury surpassed only by the choice to side with the templars in the endgame.

What about a Hawke that rivalmances Merril and sides with the templars at the end? :P



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What about a Hawke that rivalmances Merril and sides with the templars at the end? :P

 

That's how I did the Merrill romance :P



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*shrug* Well..I'm done with the merrill thing . Back to our Sera...anyone gonna give her sweet nicknames during the Vromance ? 


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What about a Hawke that rivalmances Merril and sides with the templars at the end? :P

I would have them summarily shot.


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*shrug* Well..I'm done with the merrill thing . Back to our Sera...anyone gonna give her sweet nicknames during the Vromance ? 

 

Like little Griffon.......oh Merrill. <3 Opps, sorry, we are suppose to be getting back on topic.



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That's how I did the Merrill romance :P

She can be a shining example of elves and mages to people everywhere.  When everything's over, even possibly an academic in blood magic similar to Adralla.



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:lol: How about Catnip ?



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*shrug* Well..I'm done with the merrill thing . Back to our Sera...anyone gonna give her sweet nicknames during the Vromance ? 

Agreed.  Its better not to drag on this kind of topic in a character forum for pages.  This in particular is a subject that's easy to drag on.

 

Its interesting Sera's a tempest since it makes it seem like its more for just close-range like the description implies.  I always thought artificer seemed more archer oriented, but it may work fine close-range too.



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:lol: How about Catnip ?

 

I'm not sure what that implies...............is Sera smelly or hiding something smelly.................because you know thats what catnip does..........never mind. *I'll see myself out*



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Well...catnip is like a green herb that you use for kitties and it drive them wild .  :lol: So..connect the dots there...



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Well...catnip is like a green herb that you use for kitties and it drive them wild .  :lol: So..connect the dots there...

 

I see. *learning hat on*

 

I read that as Kittylitter and was confused. I'm feeling special now......



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This is catnip , never heard of that ? I have 2 cats in the house . And every time I use it...its like they smoked weed lol 



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This is catnip , never heard of that ? I have 2 cats in the house . And every time I use it...its like they smoked weed lol 

 

You know, I love cats and have owned cats (sadly not currently)..........and yet. NOPE. I must be a terrible cat person.



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I only use it when they are way too hyperactive . One is mine and the other belong to my roomate . And since it make them drowsy , I rather not make them addict (god know they already have a terrible addiction called Whiskas  :rolleyes: ) . 



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Did somebody say catnip?

 

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Party time!


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If it wasn't for Marethari, the demon never would have been freed. Believing otherwise is to bizarrely trust an abomination's word. And Marethari was definitely possessed at the beginning of Act 3, and said nothing of it; it would have been impossible for her to have made it up the mountain's one path before Hawke did, much less perform any kind of ritual to remove Audacity. She was planning on killing Merrill and Hawke all along.

 

As for poisoning the clan against her, Marethari did that before Act 2.

 

She definitely was not possessed at the beginning of Act 3. If you talk to Marethari before going up the mountain then she leaves first and says she's going to buy Hawke time. Her getting up the mountain first because that's how they needed the scene to play out. Whenever you meet NPCs at a specific location it's usually them who are there first. It's not different from the having abominations sprout up from the ground.

 

If she were possessed she would not have just sat around dormant for such a long time. Nor would she have told Hawke to save Merrill from the mirror or the demon.



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*shrug* Well..I'm done with the merrill thing . Back to our Sera...anyone gonna give her sweet nicknames during the Vromance ? 

 

Perhaps we should, Blackwall has ser beefcakes, that's a great name!

 

Need to think of something hmm.



#12172
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Well...was thinking of buttercup , cose her hair is...yellow/golden and kinda remind me of those old Ads about home made butter...with a Sun like lol 



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Perhaps we should, Blackwall has ser beefcakes, that's a great name!

 

Need to think of something hmm.

Nicknames for Sera? Mmh...

 

Piggy? (because of snort laugh)



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Pff...not just nicknames , a LOVER nickname...something you would give her cose you luvvvv her....



#12175
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She definitely was not possessed at the beginning of Act 3. If you talk to Marethari before going up the mountain then she leaves first and says she's going to buy Hawke time. Her getting up the mountain first because that's how they needed the scene to play out. Whenever you meet NPCs at a specific location it's usually them who are there first. It's not different from the having abominations sprout up from the ground.

 

If she were possessed she would not have just sat around dormant for such a long time. Nor would she have told Hawke to save Merrill from the mirror or the demon.

Why it didn't leave first is somewhat unclear, given that she was, again, very obviously possessed at the beginning due to not having nearly enough time to both make it up the mountain and extract the demon (especially if you don't tell Marethari that, as I don't). However, I suspect that the demon wanted to kill Merrill, possibly as an effort to sabotage the Eluvian project... or perhaps Marethari specifically wanted Merrill dead and that was the bargain she made with Audacity.

I definitely know that Marethari wasn't doing all this to protect Merrill, because the plot holes are way too numerous. If Marethari knew this about Eluvians, why didn't she ever say so earlier? Why did she wait to ambush Merrill and Hawke inside Pride's End, instead of jumping off the side of Sundermount (her body still has elven vulnerabilities in elven form, as Merrill can kill her with a stab to the gut)? Why didn't she leave a warning to the clan about her own possessed status, or to-be-possessed status in the hypothetical that she wasn't already possessed?