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Artemis Leonhart

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(so...am I the only person that heard both Tali and Gianni Parasini tell us what ME3 was supposed to be about in ME2? K.)

I am glad there is art out there with plenny Sera and fem qunari love...or lust. lust is cool too.


You mean the stuff about the dark energy? You're not alone, I got those hints too: they obviously planned to have the third game about that, but for some reason they decided to scrap it in favour of some glowing child nonsense.


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#14777
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Well......I rarely listen to Talis..that glowing where her mouth is supposed to be is distracting  :lol: and Paracinni..I'm too busy sending anonymous mails to Asari so she doesn't hole their ass up  :lol: yeah I don't like her -_-



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Pff I had bad luck..1st time I finished the game whole time I was thinking 'Destroydestroydestroy' . But I didn't know how it work..so instead of going right for the red button..I just kept on walking...and had a buffy moment =Synthesis :lol:

Let just say I sat there............with my mouth wide open for a good 10min :lol:

I actually didn't get one of the colored endings until my third save reload lol. First time I simply refused the kid's offer, and worst ending occurred. Second time I shot at him instead of going to one of the three places, and he got pissed and worst ending occurred again :lol:. Kinda annoyed that something more interesting didn't happen, but amused that the game reacted to my shooting :lol:.
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I actually didn't get one of the colored endings until my third save reload lol. First time I simply refused the kid's offer, and worst ending occurred. Second time I shot at him instead of going to one of the three places, and he got pissed and worst ending occurred again :lol:. Kinda annoyed that something more interesting didn't happen, but amused that the game reacted to my shooting :lol:.

Didn't think of shooting him...instead tried hitting him with tha gun...he just kept looking at me like I lost it....but he is the glowing one  :lol: 


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It isn't a cartoonish overreaction . Peoples poured their feeling , and supported the game , bough DLC and item pack..and what not . They deserved at least not a hundred ending..just ONE good ending . And they didn't get that . Not even one !! 

The only good one ending..it has string attached....so you are screwed no matter what you choose . It,s lame . 

It is lame , because like it or not...you don't kill chuck norris or Jackie chan just like that . Peoples expected more , the whole game was pushing you in a certain direction.....so yeah . It is natural they rage over it . 

 

Well I was shocked..got the game late , so never was part of the raging mobs  :lol:

 

I don't really have an objection to hard choices where there is no optimal outcome. Players aren't entitled to like everything. It's one think to be angry and disappointed and not like the ending. That's fine. I wouldn't have liked it either. But I don't think that means we "deserve" a different ending because we'd want one.

 

Also I think I would have liked the dark energy plot less, based on how I heard it was going to be included.


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You mean the stuff about the dark energy? You're not alone, I got those hints too: they obviously planned to have the third game about that, but for some reason they decided to scrap it in favour of some glowing child nonsense.

 

Deus-Ex rip off and heavy chunks of material taken from BSG too. ME3 was a rushed hot mess of a game, the extended cut didn't help in the long run, nice try but the damage was done by then IMO.


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What always made me mad was people saying we were upset that we didn't good a happy ending, no it was the lack of a choice for one. In a game like ME 3 all our choices and decisions should determine what ending we can get, we should of had the choice to get a happy ending, a neutral ending and a bad ending and everything in between. Not just 3 endings that all end the same way.


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yes that's it exactly. Tali told you while on Haestrom and Gianni told you on Illium. I don't want this thread to devolve though so i won't go into detail but above anything else, I play as a strategist in any rpg. that means I pay attention to everything I come across and that seemed too significant to ignore. like...why even mention it? K.

edit: and for the record, I never had a utopian picture of what would happen in the end. I never wanted happy I wanted LOGICAL. that was my gripe. you can't just Monet me an ending bruh. Naw. I was angry because it didnt make sense. Messed with my sensibilities lol.
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#14784
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and the whole..little bit of child brat explaining things...it actually never explained WHY we have to push a button in the end . That's like making an overpowered charachter which was the basic idea...then you don't know how to get ride of it..so you scramble some lame 'push a button' and one of those get him killed...wat? 

 

lol at child brat. My feelings on the matter:

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

So I was rereading parts of the OP and noticed there's several mentions of Sera's "friends". I really hope they're not just cookie-cutter blandface type NPCs, but instead actually really feel like a crew. I also hope we get to see Sera hang out with them in her downtime, maybe they'll even tease her about Quizzy ^^.

 

I hope we get to meet Sera's friends/crew too, it would be cool if they were Friends of Red Jenny as well


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#14785
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Actually , yes peoples 'Deserve' something . Otherwise it become a cheating movement . Here , we bribe you with 2 good games..but the last one we screw you over . But hey ! it's our game..so we do watever we want . No , they have a responsability toward their fans who bother buying their stuff . Just like the gamers have a responsability to moderate their raging and don't go to the extreme as well . 

 

Considering they bothered to give 3 ending . They had the responsability to make ONE Good ending . And screw us over with the 2 others . If the game had only one ending...I would agree with ya . In that instance is either like it or hate it . But we had 3 Ending . So they had no exuses...at all . 



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I like to think lessons were learned. At Bioware and EA. EA in allowing the time needed to get a game done for the best possible quality and Bioware to never promising on things they cannot deliver on. DAI will prove or disprove this.


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lol at child brat. My feelings on the matter:

 

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I hope we get to meet Sera's friends/crew too, it would be cool if they were Friends of Red Jenny as well

I love that picture  :D I sent it to my friend who was recuperating after breast cancer surgery..let just say..it cheered her like hell ! 



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What always made me mad was people saying we were upset that we didn't good a happy ending, no it was the lack of a choice for one. In a game like ME 3 all our choices and decisions should determine what ending we can get, we should of had the choice to get a happy ending, a neutral ending and a bad ending and everything in between. Not just 3 endings that all end the same way.

Hum agreed . Like in Jade Empire , one was good , one was weird and one was evil . 



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I really don't feel like arguing so I'm just going to drop it. There's a reason I avoid the Mass Effect forums these days.



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So back to Sera , these Red Jenny...are they like the carta ? I don't remember if they were ever mentioned . Are they thief guild like ? Watcha know about them ? 



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There's an obscure quest in the first game about delivery a mysterious package to the mysterious friends of Red Jenny, but it's never elaborated on. In the second game it's revealed that they are the ones behind "funding" Hawke to take out all the street gangs of Kirkwall.



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So back to Sera , these Red Jenny...are they like the carta ? I don't remember if they were ever mentioned . Are they thief guild like ? Watcha know about them ? 

 

As far as I know they're like Robin Hood and the Merry Men. Fighting for the common people and stealing from the rich. Stuff like that.



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And sera is friend or an actual member ? OHHH you mean that women in the back of the Hanged men , the one that give reward after you clean up a group ? 

Well..Sera leather kinda look red  :lol: So maybe they all do ? 



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Artemis Leonhart

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So back to Sera , these Red Jenny...are they like the carta ? I don't remember if they were ever mentioned . Are they thief guild like ? Watcha know about them ? 

They are some kind of mysterious organization, but there are never enough info to know precisely who they are. All that I recall is them paying Hawke for cleaning up the thugs in Kirkwall during each act. That doesn't sound Carta-ish, but you never know.



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AlexiaRevan

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Yeah , hopefully if she is a member , she doesnt have a 'Jarvia' like Boss *shudder* that was one nasty lady 



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Jedi Master of Orion

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Recently Ive become increasingly suspicious of red things in fantasy settings. :rolleyes: But they seem to be the good guys.



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There's an obscure quest in the first game about delivery a mysterious package to the mysterious friends of Red Jenny, but it's never elaborated on. In the second game it's revealed that they are the ones behind "funding" Hawke to take out all the street gangs of Kirkwall.

 

Maaaaaaaaaaaaybe Sera is the one who takes the mysterious box at the door. *Mind-blown* :ph34r:  :lol:



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yep someome mentioned it so just picture Sera's pretty smile where this post is...

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AlexiaRevan

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Recently Ive become increasingly suspicious of red things in fantasy settings. :rolleyes: But they seem to be the good guys.

But it's leatheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer it fit HER like a glove - Joker  :lol: 



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Maaaaaaaaaaaaybe Sera is the one who takes the mysterious box at the door. *Mind-blown* :ph34r: :lol:


you joke Crim but I have considered this. wouldn't it be amazing if she was more connected than we know? not just a member of Red Jenny but one of if not THEE top dog?
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