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[AlexiaRevan]

I don't know why everyone making a fuss of a killed Leliana . (I never do..she is mah Li ! and even if she wasnt...prout! ) . Anyway , Anders can get killed in Awakening and he show up.....so it should be the same right ? 

[JerZey CJ]

Right. I remember Dave said they retconned her death and now she's canonically alive for some yet-unknown purpose.

 

I wonder why the Keep still has that choice, though? Possible oversight?

No, they've said it will be referenced/mentioned if the Warden "killed" her in DAO. The reason given for her "survival" of the fight is that the Ashes saved her.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I don't know why everyone making a fuss of a killed Leliana . (I never do..she is mah Li ! and even if she wasnt...prout! ) . Anyway , Anders can get killed in Awakening and he show up.....so it should be the same right ? 

We know her death gets retconned. Just not sure how that translates in DA:I, especially considering the choice to kill her is present in the Keep.

 

EDIT: @JerZey That's interesting. Guess there is no other way for it to make much sense.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 07 octobre 2014 - 01:22 .

[AlexiaRevan]

But killing her is not cannon....it is just an option . 

[jlb524]

Regarding the Art of DAI book (and I'm not looking for links there are plenty of em to go around in other character threads as it is) did anyone else see some of the images?

I saw some on tumblr this morning.

Nothing real spoilery yet.

[JerZey CJ]

I don't know why everyone making a fuss of a killed Leliana . (I never do..she is mah Li ! and even if she wasnt...prout! ) . Anyway , Anders can get killed in Awakening and he show up.....so it should be the same right ? 

People mostly fuss over it because of DAO's combat finishers, where they could cut off her head. Bioware has pretty much retconned those saying that you shouldn't put too much stock into stylistic choices(or something like that). Which is really just an odd choice of a thing to retcon to me, like what, your Warden was really delusional and only thought they cut that person's head off?

[CrimsonHead]

People mostly fuss over it because of DAO's combat finishers, where they could cut off her head. Bioware has pretty much retconned those saying that you shouldn't put too much stock into stylistic choices(or something like that). Which is really just an odd choice of a thing to retcon to me, like what, your Warden was really delusional and only thought they cut that person's head off?

 

Too bad the Warden doesn't show up in DAI.

They'd be like: '' Didn't I kill you once. I could've sworn I chopped your head off.''

[CrimsonN7]

But killing her is not cannon....it is just an option . 

 

People who killed Lels should not be allowed to buy DLC. Blacklist their account, you're bad and you should feel bad and be punished for this.  

[Basement Cat]

But killing her is not cannon....it is just an option . 

  

[Fiery Phoenix]

The spoiler I saw in the art book is supposedly

 

Spoiler

Morrigan's baby

 

I emphasize supposedly, since I can't read Russian.

[Artemis Leonhart]

People mostly fuss over it because of DAO's combat finishers, where they could cut off her head. Bioware has pretty much retconned those saying that you shouldn't put too much stock into stylistic choices(or something like that). Which is really just an odd choice of a thing to retcon to me, like what, your Warden was really delusional and only thought they cut that person's head off?

Except for the fact that finishing moves were not recorded by the game, there was never a flag for "XYZ character beheaded" or something. I mean, in the final confrontation with Arl Howe you could randomly get a beheading finisher and he still would be perfectly fine and able to spout his last words before dying; same with Zevran, you could get to behead him in combat and then in the cutscene he is ok. Finishers are just that: cool, random, non flagged moves that the game doesn't record. Enough with this "but I beheaded her" nonsense, the game does not record, flag or recognize finishing moves, it never did and never will. /rant

[CrimsonN7]

The spoiler I saw in the art book is supposedly

 

Spoiler

Morrigan's baby

 

I emphasize supposedly, since I can't read Russian.

 

Oh I didn't see that but I heard about

 

Spoiler

a child's rocking chair or something similar, so that's Morrigan's kid concept art. We might meet him in game at some point then.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Oh I didn't see that but I heard about

 

Spoiler

a child's rocking chair or something similar, so that's Morrigan's kid concept art. We might meet him in game at some point then.

Spoiler

Yeah, apparently that the baby does appear in-game and plays some part in the main plot (provided the relevant ending was chosen, of course). But then again, this is going by comments I've read. Nothing I got from the artbook itself.

[JerZey CJ]

Except for the fact that finishing moves were not recorded by the game, there was never a flag for "XYZ character beheaded" or something. I mean, in the final confrontation with Arl Howe you could randomly get a beheading finisher and he still would be perfectly fine and able to spout his last words before dying; same with Zevran, you could get to behead him in combat and then in the cutscene he is ok. Finishers are just that: cool, random, non flagged moves that the game doesn't record. Enough with this "but I beheaded her" nonsense, the game does not record, flag or recognize finishing moves, it never did and never will. /rant

You'd think something like that would be an easy fix though(performing finisher's on important NPCs that is)? Couldn't Bioware just have set the finisher possibility chance on those targets to "0" so that they could not be performed on them?

[Artemis Leonhart]

You'd think something like that would be an easy fix though(performing finisher's on important NPCs that is)? Couldn't Bioware just have set the finisher possibility chance on those targets to "0" so that they could not be performed on them?

I'm not a programmer, so I don't know if it could have been done or not. The point is, the finishing moves were just something random that was not flagged or canon. The fact that people tend to take seriously everything, even random animations in combat, is probably why they got rid of finishers in the next game, so people couldn't whine at the "beheading" of someone who was actually fine after combat (that, and the fact that finishers were more of a hindrance that anything, since your character was locked in the animation 'til it was done and took damage from enemies in the process).

[CrimsonN7]

 

Link

 

That's one fine looking Dalish rogue, that hair style is nice. I can feel my resolve to play a warrior breaking now, dem rogues tho, in a real pickle here.

 

 

Link

[Basement Cat]

Rogues are the best!

 

Warriors are close though. Especially if that warrior is Cassandra.

[CrimsonN7]

Rogues are the best!

 

Warriors are close though. Especially if that warrior is Cassandra.

 

Love dem rogues too. Warrior 2nd fav class... I struggle with mages.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Love dem rogues too. Warrior 2nd fav class... I struggle with mages.

Same. I'm too stupid to play a mage

[Milan92]

I never played a mage in DAO, but I really liked to play a Mage Hawke. Its actually my canon class for that game.

 

I will probably play a mage during my second DA:I. Got a two-handed warrior planned for now.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I played a mage in both DA:O and DA2 but only to get the relevant achievements. Never actually finished either game as a mage. Quit as soon as the achievement popped.

[CrazyRah]

*snip*

 

Link

 

That's one fine looking Dalish rogue, that hair style is nice. I can feel my resolve to play a warrior breaking now, dem rogues tho, in a real pickle here.

 

*snip*

 

Link

 

That's some damn fine Dalish rogue! Totally going to stick with my original plan to role one. 

 

Oh and Sera haaaai! 

[Xilizhra]

I love mages and will play as them whenever possible. The only thing stopping me in DA2 is a desire to keep Bethany for DAI; it's a tricky decision.

[Basement Cat]

Love dem rogues too. Warrior 2nd fav class... I struggle with mages.

 

I played a mage in both DA:O and DA2 but only to get the relevant achievements. Never actually finished either game as a mage. Quit as soon as the achievement popped.

I can play a mage, but for some reason they bore me. Stll, I wouldn't want to solo as a mage.

[Artemis Leonhart]

I like to play all the classes, but I'm a warrior/rogue at heart.