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Even if they did cheat Bioware games have mostly always given the player the chance to recruit party members asap and since enemies don't level I'm sure its very possible to recruit most of them at any time as long as they are not story related for example we might not run into Cole until a certain part of the main quest.

 

You've basically just said that you think it is possible to recruit everyone at any time, unless there is a reason you can't recruit someone at any time.

 

Outside of ME1 and arguably DA2 all BioWare games I'm familiar with have had at least one companion tied to a mid to late game plot. From what I've seen I suspect everyone can be recruited early, but that's based off what has been shown, and what has been shown can be misleading.

 

 

Dorian, Cole, and the Iron Bull were missing IIRC.

 

I just checked and that is right. Both Dorian and Cole were in the so-new-it-has-scaffolding Skyhold live stream though, so I guess everyone is available early in a non-linear order. Maybe.



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Outside of ME1 and arguably DA2 all BioWare games I'm familiar with have had at least one companion tied to a mid to late game plot. 

 

 The only companions in Origins who were tied to the plot that you could get late is really dependent on how you play the game Wynne you get at the Circle which is the first main story quest I do so I always get her early but if you decide to go to the Circle last you will get her late in the game, Oghren is always last in my playthroughs but if you decide to go to the deep roads first he could join you early. In Me 1 the only squad mate you couldn't get on the Citadel was Liara and you could either get her right away or even wait and get her last,  ME 2 and ME 3 had squad mates who joined mostly by how far you were in the plot, I think DAI will have a mix of this as Mike sort of eluded to it in the stream yesterday that some companions are very easy to get and some are tied to the plot. I can see Cole and maybe Dorian being tied to how far you are in the main quest line, but with characters like Sera and IB I could see them being recruited early if you choose to do so. 



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if I had that kind of power I would lol but really if you look at it that's not very long at all just 3 weeks 

But still 3 weeks still feel like years :mellow: ... I WANT THE GAME!!!



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Trust me, if you have an essay you have to complete three days before the release, it suddenly won't feel THAT long.



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 The only companions in Origins who were tied to the plot that you could get late is really dependent on how you play the game Wynne you get at the Circle which is the first main story quest I do so I always get her early but if you decide to go to the Circle last you will get her late in the game, Oghren is always last in my playthroughs but if you decide to go to the deep roads first he could join you early.

 

Oghren and Wynne are located in two of four main quests in the middle game. In order to have both in the party you need to have finished roughly half the game. To get the option of recruiting the last companion you need to reach the Landsmeet. Awakening is worse with each of the middle quests having a companion attached to it. ME2, ME3 and JE simply put companions unlocking after the halfway point. KotOR also has 2 of 4 main plots grant companions.

 

I get the impression BioWare will make everyone available early this time, but that is not what they have tended to do in previous games. I am hoping that companions will be recruited through side quests so that we can get everyone (we want) without pushing too far into the main plot.


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Trust me, if you have an essay you have to complete three days before the release, it suddenly won't feel THAT long.

 

If you're speaking about yourself, then good luck with that essay!

 

 

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I've just seen Sera's custom armours and I don't think I can handle this much adorableness in my game.


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If you're speaking about yourself, then good luck with that essay!

 

 

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I've just seen Sera's custom armours and I don't think I can handle this much adorableness in my game.

 

I'm actually a bit of a crybaby about it. I should suck it up and keep going, hooyah!

 

 

I just wish they kept the hair we saw in the previous stream. Oh well, not cutting hair in front of her ears probably suits the story of "Cut it with her knife" more.

It's funny, but that bit reminds me of that Jewish custom of not cutting your hair in front of your ears.

(Disclaimer, I fully respect the custom, even if, as an atheist, I consider it slightly strange. They wanna do it, they can do it.)



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Ugh why doesn't this forum have a dislike button? :wacko:

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too big and bulky, total turn-off for me.

I agree, and not because I think men should be muscled and women shouldn't. I think bodybuilders look silly regardless of sex. I'm much more impressed by, say, a rock climber that can pull him or herself up by one hand than someone who just spends time bulking up in the gym...
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Time goes by faster than I had expected to and with all the Sera related goodies we got this week I got plenty of stuff to gush over and re-watch and re-gush over to at least keep me busy for a few days. After that.. is another time 


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*ketchup*

 

Hum...no shep in there ? sound like you are writing about a Multiplayer playtrough  :lol:

 

Some of the best fics don't involve the central protagonist(s) at all, but include secondary/companion characters... or entirely new characters so as to tell stories as yet untold by the 'main plot'.  I don't mean to be telling you something you probably already know, I just wanted to comment!

 

Oh dear. I'm afraid I've had a stroke of... inspiration. Would anyone be interested in a BDSM fic with Sera and Ragequisitor? I would...

 

Uh oh...  smut storm incoming!  Batten down the hatches!   (not a euphemism... probably)


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(not a euphemism... probably)

 

There's always a euphemism.



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Uh oh...  smut storm incoming!  Batten down the hatches!   (not a euphemism... probably)

I'm sure Sera will create a storm around you for that!

 

Anyway Sera is said to be the chieftain of the bandit group. I'm just wondering how we will be able to enrol her in game.



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*ketchup*

 

 

Some of the best fics don't involve the central protagonist(s) at all, but include secondary/companion characters... or entirely new characters so as to tell stories as yet untold by the 'main plot'.  I don't mean to be telling you something you probably already know, I just wanted to comment!

 

 

Uh oh...  smut storm incoming!  Batten down the hatches!   (not a euphemism... probably)

Actually, you might be quite surprised by this story. I'm almost done with the first chapter (of 5). I cannot write porn without plot to save my life. There has to be character development, and humor, and logic. I'm boring like that. ;)


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Some of the best fics don't involve the central protagonist(s) at all, but include secondary/companion characters... or entirely new characters so as to tell stories as yet untold by the 'main plot'. I don't mean to be telling you something you probably already know, I just wanted to comment!

I've never written a fanfic but were I to do so it would certainly be along these lines. Something like a story of Leliana doing the Divine's dirty work or a similar story outside the main scope of the games...

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I'm late on this (I'm watching Once Upon a time from Season 1), but I like how Sera looked in the new armours, expecially The inquisition one.
I'm actually interested now in putting everyone in those armours...though I wonder how Vivienne Would look in it :lol:.
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From the extra life livestream thread, Sera with a helmet on :P

I think the helmet really completes the look... ;)
 
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Really, running out of likes at this exact moment. That's really not fair.

 

I know how you feel - so many awesome comments in this thread and I have no thumbs :(

 

Seriously how long does it take to refill thumbs? If I get them back - it's like 2 or 3 and that's all.



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From the extra life livestream thread, Sera with a helmet on :P
 

 

A helmet on Sera?! Who would commit such a travesty!?!

 

(it's probably in chapter 3 of BC's new fic...)


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Actually, you might be quite surprised by this story. I'm almost done with the first chapter (of 5). I cannot write porn without plot to save my life. There has to be character development, and humor, and logic. I'm boring like that. ;)

 

And here I thought porn doesn't need plot at all...

(I'm actually surprised you write porn...)

 

I've never written a fanfic but were I to do so it would certainly be along these lines. Something like a story of Leliana doing the Divine's dirty work or a similar story outside the main scope of the games...

 

Yeah, I don't think I could do a rewrite of a game. Definitely not. What I CAN do, however, is OCs and their stories, as I found out. I just have to keep in mind not to break any game lore. As long as you don't break lore, or stray too far to keep it believable (Quarian biotics, ugh... now, that might happen in a few centuries, sure... but I wouldn't go any further than first findings of biotics among Quarians, and that's at least five hundred years from the events of ME3 - can't imagine it remotely believable otherwise, I mean Quarian biotics would be enough farfetched on their own, regardless of time passed and how common they would be in the story)

 

I'm late on this (I'm watching Once Upon a time from Season 1), but I like how Sera looked in the new armours, expecially The inquisition one.
I'm actually interested now in putting everyone in those armours...though I wonder how Vivienne Would look in it :lol:.

 

I don't think they'll let you suit up Vivienne in a suit of actual armor, even if she's the Knight Enchanter of the group.



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I actually think We can, through crafting. I doubt they'll reduce a massive armour in a robe/outfit.
But I think The inquisition mage outfit isn't going to be heavy armour anyway.

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I'm sure Sera will create a storm around you for that!

 

Anyway Sera is said to be the chieftain of the bandit group. I'm just wondering how we will be able to enrol her in game.

where are you getting that she was the Cheiftan of a Bandit Group? Unless you're reffering to the Friends of Red Jenny...



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From the extra life livestream thread, Sera with a helmet on :P
 

 

PHWOAR!



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A helmet on Sera?! Who would commit such a travesty!?!

 

(it's probably in chapter 3 of BC's new fic...)

Nope.

 

And here I thought porn doesn't need plot at all...

(I'm actually surprised you write porn...)

 

*snip*

Does it count as porn if the sexy parts are a part of the story rather than the main focus of the story?

 

...

 

I'm going to say no. I'm almost done with the first chapter. I'm curious what you will think... (for those who will read it)



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Nope.

 

Does it count as porn if the sexy parts are a part of the story rather than the main focus of the story?

 

...

 

I'm going to say no. I'm almost done with the first chapter. I'm curious what you will think... (for those who will read it)

 

Guess it doesn't. But it was you who said you're writing porn in the first place :P



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A helmet on Sera?! Who would commit such a travesty!?!

 

(it's probably in chapter 3 of BC's new fic...)

Helmets on rogues never really make much sense to me personally. When I think helmet, I think warrior.

 

I remember outfitting my rogues in DAO/2 with extremely light armor, while using tank-type companions to balance it out.