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[mikeymoonshine]

Well, we know Sera exists because we already know who is writing her. Lukas Kristjanson.

 

We have two character slots for whom we have heard absolutely nothing and only the War Room art has any possible companions in it. That is why people are hung up on Cullen and Dorian or someone Dorian-like because they're clearly in the art. ((I do like that ever since they have said not everyone in the picture was a companion everyone just went "OH, that's Leliana! She's just gonna be an adviser!! No one has started threads suggesting she might be the third rogue and that is interesting))

 

Well I didn't want to say anyone was confirmed when they aren't but in my view the Sura and The Warden are almost definitely confirmed because they were in gameplay footage. We know the Iron Bull is in the game and he seems very likely to be a party member too. 

 

Nobody knows if the robed guy is Dorian or not. Not everyone mentioned in the survey was depicted in the concepts that came with the survey and vice versa. Many people thought Solas might be Dorian until Gaider hinted that he wasn't. 

 

We also can't be sure if that is Cullen or not in the war room, it probably is but he looks kinda different. I think he will turn out to be a companion but it's just a hunch. 

 

I think people doubt Leliana because it was kinda hinted at her not being a companion when she was hinted to be in the game. I dunno if she is a party member or not but for some reason I doubt that she is and agree that she is probably just an npc. 

 

If Cole is a companion then they are certainly keeping a tight lid on that info. 

[mikeymoonshine]

Want romancable Cole. DA needs a teen heartthrob and DG is already a professed Edward Cullen fan =p.

 

Gaider already said that an in game Cole would never be a romance option because he's got the mind of a child (or something). he doesn't understand any of that. 

[GVulture]

Gaider already said that an in game Cole would never be a romance option because he's got the mind of a child (or something). he doesn't understand any of that. 

And it completely squicks me out everytime someone says they want to romance someone with the mental capacity of a child.

[mikeymoonshine]

And it completely squicks me out everytime someone says they want to romance someone with the mental capacity of a child.

 

I guess people forget about that part. 

 

It's like Edward Cullen. Everyone sees the pretty image "tall dark and handsome" and they don't think about the fact that he's an obsessive/possession killer who breaks into women's houses and watches them sleep. Even the Author fell for her own glamorization of him.  . 

[Leoroc]

I am not putting any stock into a dev saying something isn't in, especially regarding a companion cuz they are a secretive and deceptive bunch (game devs that is).

 

And Cole hardly has the mental capacity if a child, and if that was DG's intent in the book he failed to portray it. Cole is far more mature an individual than Fenris. He may  not have understood sex (at the beginning of the novel mind you), but he was certainly capable if loving and romance =/= sex.

[wcholcombe]

 

 

 

 

Oh, no, I didn't mean it that way. We should stop making assumptions, not speculating. By assumptions I mean things like "spirit good, demon bad, abomination crazy".

 

 

 

Just because he thinks he's going to dissapear it doesn't mean it's true. He was extremely lonely, near madness, and desperately needed someone to recognize him. That's why he killed those people. It MAY have something to do with his nature, or not. Think about this: if we didn't know he's a spirit/demon, if he was just a random peasant, would we even consider the possibility that those murders could be blood magic? No, probably not.

 

He's also completely sure Rhys was going to forget him at some point, and that didn't happen.

 

And I do think he'd be good in a combat. He gave Lambert a good fight and even disarmed him, if I'm not wrong. Lambert himself told him he was fast, and Lambert is an ass. He was just learning how to use his power/skill/curse/whatever and still managed to kill 3 templars without a scratch, and safe Rhys's life by hiding them.

 

The fact that he murders them for their blood because he thinks he will disappear if he doesn't is my point.  It has nothing to do with me thinking he practices blood magic, I just have an issue with someone who thinks it is ok to murder other people to absorb their life force or continue to exist. 

[Leoroc]

Zevran murdered for profit.

Fenris/Anders murdered out of hate.

Cole murdered out of (a possibly legitimate) fear.

 

If anyone can be turned around to be a good person out of them, it is Cole, and after all none of the others had become less murderous by the end of their game.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I am not putting any stock into a dev saying something isn't in, especially regarding a companion cuz they are a secretive and deceptive bunch (game devs that is).

 

And Cole hardly has the mental capacity if a child, and if that was DG's intent in the book he failed to portray it. Cole is far more mature an individual than Fenris. He may  not have understood sex (at the beginning of the novel mind you), but he was certainly capable if loving and romance =/= sex.

David Gaider wrote the book, so if he says it was his intent, I think we basically have to accept it and the character is probably not going to change.

 

I mean, I understand why you probably want Cole as a LI. I like cute/pretty guys, too, and Inquisition does not look to have anything at all like that. A part of me also would like it if they gave Cole a more adult personality and made him an LI, but I also understand that Gaider wants to keep his creation as he intended it and my reasons are selfish. It's disappointing, but this is probably not going to be the answer. 

[CENIC]

"Anyone who wants to romance Cole is a sick bastard! By the way, he looks like Evan Peters."

EVIL. PURE EVIL.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

"Anyone who wants to romance Cole is a sick bastard! By the way, he looks like Evan Peters."

EVIL. PURE EVIL.

I thought Evan Peters was cute in American Horror Story. 

[CENIC]

I thought Evan Peters was cute in American Horror Story.

In terms of looks, absolutely! Tate was pure evil though.

My post was more mocking the fact that David compared Cole to an attractive actor and doesn't understand why ANYONE could find him attractive.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

In terms of looks, absolutely! Tate was pure evil though.

My post was more mocking the fact that David compared Cole to an attractive actor and doesn't understand why ANYONE could find him attractive.

Haha, I totally get that. I was actually talking about this with a friend the other day. XD

[Wolfen09]

Cole is like a buddy of mine i used to drink with, when the night was over id head home with one girl and he would head home with 2 or 3....  I asked my girlfriend at the time, who was a childhood friend, what his secret was...  She said that he came across as so sad and pathetic that it inspired that motherly feeling within them....  thats exactly what i think is up with cole, hes had so much misery and despair, all the female players want him...

[CENIC]

Haha, I totally get that. I was actually talking about this with a friend the other day. XD

I just think it's pretty cruel to chastise people for finding someone attractive... when you yourself made that connection. Maybe he needed some extra fan tears to sustain himself that day...

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I just think it's pretty cruel to chastise people for finding someone attractive... when you yourself made that connection. Maybe he needed some extra fan tears to sustain himself that day...

Maybe he will disappear without them!

[Leoroc]

Cole is like a buddy of mine i used to drink with, when the night was over id head home with one girl and he would head home with 2 or 3....  I asked my girlfriend at the time, who was a childhood friend, what his secret was...  She said that he came across as so sad and pathetic that it inspired that motherly feeling within them....  thats exactly what i think is up with cole, hes had so much misery and despair, all the female players want him...

Not just the females, it is a common dynamic in the gay community too for a younger inexperienced guy to seek out an older partner (though with my husband it was reversed, he was way more experienced =p)

 

Before Asunder came out I hsd commented that it was a dynamic that hadn't been done yet really. We haven't had a shy, reserved, inexperienced LI. I had suggested a circle mage, but Cole definktely fits the archtype.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I'm also a guy, for what it's worth, and Evan Peters as Tate is pretty much exactly my type PHYSICALLY. I'm not older or more stereotypically manly than he is, though. I'm 20 and I look 14. lol

[GVulture]

Not just the females, it is a common dynamic in the gay community too for a younger inexperienced guy to seek out an older partner (though with my husband it was reversed, he was way more experienced =p)

 

Before Asunder came out I hsd commented that it was a dynamic that hadn't been done yet really. We haven't had a shy, reserved, inexperienced LI. I had suggested a circle mage, but Cole definktely fits the archtype.

Alistair didn't feel that trope? Or are you strictly talking s/s relationships here?

[Grieving Natashina]

Sometimes I feel like the only one that doesn't want Cole in Inquisition as a companion member. Not really feeling him as a potential party member. =\ Interesting and fascinating character... but I don't see him being useful as a party member without Rhys around.

Nope, you're not alone and I feel the same way about his inclusion.  Well, except on that last part.  As bushes said, part of the journey he takes in the book really forces him to grow as a person, so he wouldn't need Rhys anymore.  Lambert was triumphant, and seemed to have no burning desire to die.  Yet, Cole was able to appear to him just fine.  

 

Ah, Cole.  Interesting NPC?  Oh yes.  Potentially great quests?  No doubt.  Viable companion?  Eh....

[Banxey]

Nope, you're not alone and I feel the same way about his inclusion.  Well, except on that last part.  As bushes said, part of the journey he takes in the book really forces him to grow as a person, so he wouldn't need Rhys anymore.  Lambert was triumphant, and seemed to have no burning desire to die.  Yet, Cole was able to appear to him just fine.  

 

Ah, Cole.  Interesting NPC?  Oh yes.  Potentially great quests?  No doubt.  Viable companion?  Eh....

 

As I said in the Cole thread in the suggestion forum (and possibly somewhere else) I think he could make a good EDI-like companion. For people who haven't played ME, EDI is essentially an AI who you can choose to bestow a certain amount of humanity on. It's actually quite touching. I think my only issue with Cole as a companion would be that I don't really want to have someone follow me around and treat me like a mother. Also the possibility that he might be in a Lambert suit is.. interesting. But I really like the direction that they're taking with having characters be older and I would prefer more adults.

[Grieving Natashina]

As I said in the Cole thread in the suggestion forum (and possibly somewhere else) I think he could make a good EDI-like companion. For people who haven't played ME, EDI is essentially an AI who you can choose to bestow a certain amount of humanity on. It's actually quite touching. I think my only issue with Cole as a companion would be that I don't really want to have someone follow me around and treat me like a mother. Also the possibility that he might be in a Lambert suit is.. interesting. But I really like the direction that they're taking with having characters be older and I would prefer more adults.

Ah, that would be cool.  However, I'm in total accord with you about seeing more adults.  Finally, I can "hang out" with companions closer to my real age and even create an Inquisitor in her 30s without being called a kid all the time.

[Leoroc]

Alistair didn't feel that trope? Or are you strictly talking s/s relationships here?

Alistair and Merrill were both kind of close to it, but too wise-cracky or bubbly. Also neither were m/m relationships.

 

Also, my headcanon version of Cole looks more like Thomas Sangster in Game of Thrones

 

[Grieving Natashina]

Alistair and Merrill were both kind of close to it, but too wise-cracky or bubbly. Also neither were m/m relationships.

 

Also, my headcanon version of Cole looks more like Thomas Sangster in Game of Thrones

 

Wow!  I haven't seen the show in awhile, but that is a really good match for how I pictured Cole too.  I'd like your post, but I'm out for the day.

[CENIC]

Here's Evan Peters, whom I mentioned earlier, if anyone was curious:

[Fenwulf]

I've mentioned in another thread that personally, I feel he would make a far better plot device than a companion.  For starters, he's not really human, just a shade trying to be.  Which in a way, is what all demons are trying to do, they just don't understand physical beings enough to get it right.  Having him be a major secondary quest plot device, where we are trying to solve some issue that arises and his unique condition could be either an asset or a hindrance would be spectacular.  Honestly tho, the Cole I remember from the novel would make for a terrible companion.  He has no goal outside finding someone that can remember him and then latching on to that person like a parasite.  It would also make for much more of a headache in-game that he would be worth, as the idea of him vanishing from peoples minds as well as their sight would necessitate re-introductions every few minutes or so.  And the idea of him as a LI?  Seriously?  You want to have a demonic shade that feeds on death as a LI?  Well, ok, whatever floats your boat.