370 réponses à ce sujet

[JeffZero]

Teehee~

[Anvos]

Personally I'm leaning towards manifest fade demon that was tempered by having too much of one person's memories, giving it a more human perspective.  

 

Also I'm not really sure if Cole would really be considered of a child's mind if knowledge of his fade creature self has returned.

[1483749283]

Cole annoyed us excessively. An entirely too facile and self-conscious attempt by the novel to create within us a reaction of sympathy for a murderer---doing so by invoking a child abuse.

 

If available as a companion, we respectfully ask for the possibility that Cole can be reduced to its constituent atoms immediately upon meeting, similarly to the platform known as Zevran.

 

If it is non-corporeal---i.e. Cole is a spirit---we ask for a similar means of destruction for Cole in a way that is consistent with the lore of Dragon Age.

 

However, we believe the likelihood that Cole will not lie along the critical path and that our wishes come true is exceedingly low. Creator Gaider's favorite characters are frequently indestructible and we suspect Cole will not be an exception.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I would love to see Cole as a companion and, honestly, I haven't seen any other males I'd rather see as a love interest. Obviously I'm assuming he's going to look like a young adult and not like a 12 year old, but if he's a fade creature, I would assume he's basically ageless and formless by nature. There have been four other male characters announced and none of them appeal to me at all, so sure, I'm definitely for an 18-25 looking Cole as a new offering. I'm sorry, but Baldy-locks and the three bears just aren't doing it for me.

 

As for Cole as a character, generally, his origins interest me more than anyone else's that's been announced. I believe the situation with spirits and demons is more like the Dalish believe. I think they all have their own personalities and are all capable of good or evil. I think possibly they can get corrupted, and that's what we see with demons, but if the sliding scale goes that way, who is to say it can't slide back the other direction? To me, this is one of the more interesting character paths we could possibly explore and it gives us a chance to learn more about the world, in general, in a way very few other character concepts do.

 

As for his transgressions, as other people have pointed out, a lot of our past companions have done as bad, or worse. I don't think there's any way to argue that what Cole has done is worse than Isabela drowning slaves to save her own ass, or Sten murdering a whole family because he had a tantrum over his lost sword. Most of our characters have seedy histories and morally grey motivations. Cole isn't any worse than the average, by my count.

[Grieving Natashina]

I can confirm Cole is a...

...wait, who is Cole?*
















*I know who he is. If you've read Asunder, you'll get this.

Out of likes, but well played.     I just finished the book.  

[Zazzerka]

Cole annoyed us excessively. An entirely too facile and self-conscious attempt by the novel to create within us a reaction of sympathy for a murderer---doing so by invoking a child abuse.

 

If available as a companion, we respectfully ask for the possibility that Cole can be reduced to its constituent atoms immediately upon meeting, similarly to the platform known as Zevran.

 

If it is non-corporeal---i.e. Cole is a spirit---we ask for a similar means of destruction for Cole in a way that is consistent with the lore of Dragon Age.

 

However, we believe the likelihood that Cole will not lie along the critical path and that our wishes come true is exceedingly low. Creator Gaider's favorite characters are frequently indestructible and we suspect Cole will not be an exception.

 

Are you... roleplaying as the geth?

[MWImexico]

About Cole, what if he's more than a corrupted spirit of hope? It's probably nothing (but I like to speculate) so; in Asunder Cole's dagger is described as being :"an ornate blade with an elaborate brass hilt carved in the shape of a dragon's head" (p.19). I don't know, that reminds me a lot the sword of the Inquisitor + the dragon thing seems fishy...

[Frikipolleces]

I didn't start Asunder until a few days ago, and while I was reading I couldn't stop thinking what a great companion Cole would make. I see many people find him annoying, or creepy, or whatever, but that probably means he is an interesting character.

 

About Cole, what if he's more than a corrupted spirit of hope? It's probably nothing (but I like to speculate) so; in Asunder Cole's dagger is described as being :"an ornate blade with an elaborate brass hilt carved in the shape of a dragon's head" (p.19). I don't know, that reminds me a lot the sword of the Inquisitor + the dragon thing seems fishy...

But that's supposed to be her mother's dagger.

 

Oh, BTW, hi everyone 

[XMissWooX]

I've just been thinking - If Cole is a companion, how do you see his powers coming into play combat and story-wise? Assuming he still has the abilities he displayed in Asunder, then I could see him being quite useful in combat:
* Invisibility (sustained) - Cole uses his powers to become invisible on the battlefield, granting him a 50% chance of remaining stealthed after his first attack.
* Forgettable (activated) - Cole uses his powers to make enemies forget about his presence, granting him a 25% threat reduction.
^Just to point out that likely none of these are a balanced, they are just examples.

[Master Warder Z_]

Still hoping that if he does appear the option to behead him and send that corrupted little demon spawn back to where he belongs is present, but given his is Gaider's favorite of the month we will see if that option appears.

 

Or you know, he could merely not show up, that would work as well.

 

Whiny little demon.

[Former_Fiend]

I will say this; if Cole does appear as a companion, which I doubt, I suspect he won't be among the nine we've been promised. He'll either be a secret companion we get late in the game (Loghain, Legion), or a DLC companion(Shale, Sebastian).

[MWImexico]

I didn't start Asunder until a few days ago, and while I was reading I couldn't stop thinking what a great companion Cole would make. I see many people find him annoying, or creepy, or whatever, but that probably means he is an interesting character.

 

But that's supposed to be her mother's dagger.

 

Oh, BTW, hi everyone 

 

Hi
You mean Cole's mother? Oops, it's been awhile since I have read Asunder so I forgot about this. You're right, the explanation about the dagger is given in the book p.254

[wcholcombe]

I didn't start Asunder until a few days ago, and while I was reading I couldn't stop thinking what a great companion Cole would make. I see many people find him annoying, or creepy, or whatever, but that probably means he is an interesting character.

 

But that's supposed to be her mother's dagger.

 

Oh, BTW, hi everyone 

The dagger is his mother's dagger yes. It is also a Chasind dagger as his mother was Chasind.

[TheLittleBird]

The dagger is his mother's dagger yes. It is also a Chasind dagger as his mother was Chasind.

 

Interesting, but..... how do you know this?   I don't recall that being told in the book.

[Lambdadelta]

Interesting, but..... how do you know this?   I don't recall that being told in the book.

 

I clearly remember it being either heavily implied or mentioned in the book that Cole's mother was a wilder woman, if not neccessarily Chasind.

[ladyofpayne]

I think he will be companion. May be in DLC.

[wcholcombe]

I clearly remember it being either heavily implied or mentioned in the book that Cole's mother was a wilder woman, if not neccessarily Chasind.

I believe wilder is another name for Chasind.

 

http://dragonage.wik.../Chasind_Wilder

[Gervaise]

If Cole is pure spirit how come Lambert is able to make him bleed, how come Cole can use a dagger or handle keys?   There has to be something tangible, some sort of matter, if only a skeleton, for him to be solid enough to do these things.   That is why I find him such an enigma.   I would like to encounter him so that I can find out more about what he is but he would make for a very odd companion if the Inquisitor is the only one who can see him, so if he were a companion I would guess that the veil tears have made him more visible and memorable to all.

[A.Kazama]

Still hoping that if he does appear the option to behead him and send that corrupted little demon spawn back to where he belongs is present, but given his is Gaider's favorite of the month we will see if that option appears.

 

Or you know, he could merely not show up, that would work as well.

 

Whiny little demon.

WOW, you really hate this kids guts, lol.

 

On another note I think Cole is unique as a fade creature and quite cool. I'm also under the impression he's matured since the events of Asunder and I'm kinda hoping he's a more hardened Cole.

 

I agree with other comments on him being un-romanceable. In the book he clearly has no romantic/sexy interest in others.
e.g. LETS WATCH EVA UNDRESS AND NOT GIVE A HOOT!!!

 

But in conclusion I hope he's a companion that turns out to be fun and interesting! (child characters usually tend to be interesting in IMO)

 

[Brass_Buckles]

If Cole is pure spirit how come Lambert is able to make him bleed, how come Cole can use a dagger or handle keys?   There has to be something tangible, some sort of matter, if only a skeleton, for him to be solid enough to do these things.   That is why I find him such an enigma.   I would like to encounter him so that I can find out more about what he is but he would make for a very odd companion if the Inquisitor is the only one who can see him, so if he were a companion I would guess that the veil tears have made him more visible and memorable to all.

 

If he's a powerful enough entity he could bleed because he believes he bleeds.  Same goes for the dagger, really--he has it because he thinks he does.  It may not actually be there.  Some spirits can manifest in the material world as shades.  He might just be an extremely powerful shade.  Or he could possibly have brought Cole's body back to life; corpses don't bleed or sweat, either.  But, I don't get that impression, because when the templars cleaned up and hid the evidence, wouldn't they also have destroyed the body?  I think they would have.  I guess they could have dumped it in the Pit, but more likely, considering Andrastian religious beliefs, he would have been cremated and the ashes scattered.  If not for that, I'd be inclined to believe like others do that he's an abomination.  But I don't think he'd stay invisible so much if he were an abomination, either.  That's really more like a spirit.

 

I had a thought today about Cole, though.  Could he be somehow responsible for the fade tear?

 

And also, if he is truly corrupted, he's more likely to be a character we have to kill than one we will have as a companion.

[Brass_Buckles]

WOW, you really hate this kids guts, lol.

 

On another note I think Cole is unique as a fade creature and quite cool. I'm also under the impression he's matured since the events of Asunder and I'm kinda hoping he's a more hardened Cole.

 

I agree with other comments on him being un-romanceable. In the book he clearly has no romantic/sexy interest in others.
e.g. LETS WATCH EVA UNDRESS AND NOT GIVE A HOOT!!!

 

But in conclusion I hope he's a companion that turns out to be fun and interesting! (child characters usually tend to be interesting in IMO)

 

I wouldn't say he's totally disinterested, after all he was noticing pretty ladies and seemed to really enjoy that kiss from Evangeline.

 

But, he does definitely have the mind of a child.  I don't think he's matured past that, if what David Gaider said is any indication, even if he's a fade spirit.  Honestly, as I read Asunder, he seemed much younger to me than even his dream in the Fade implied.  Assuming he truly has all of Cole's memories, he should be getting fairly teenager-y if he were twelve years old.  And I suspect there was some time that passed between then and his being taken to the Circle, so he should have been older still mentally.  Rhys notes that he's very intelligent--not that that denotes emotional maturity.

 

What I noticed was how he acted when told not to do something, or caught doing something he shouldn't.  He didn't have the maturity to know better, or to successfully hide his guilt.  He acted like maybe a six-year-old.  Maybe not even that old, because no matter how bad he feels about killing people, he doesn't recognize that it's a wrong thing to do.  He only thinks that it hurts his father-figure Rhys. If he's matured upon realizing he's a spirit, or whatever else (abomination?  Something else?) he happens to be, then he probably still isn't mentally older than a teenager, if that.  So no, he really shouldn't be romanceable.

 

If he were mentally mature enough, I suspect curiosity and affection would be enough to make him interested in trying out this whole romance thing.  But he is not mentally mature at all, and it would be wrong to put him in that situation.  Remember, he doesn't even understand that murder is wrong.  He even seems to have a difficult time comprehending most people as, well, being people, and not random traits he assigns to them--even if he shows compassion for those same people.  In some ways he's actually quite mature and capable, namely in his evident understanding of the suffering of others.  But socially speaking, and in terms of comprehending the consequences of his actions, he's just a little kid and maybe he always will be.  So romancing Cole would be very, very wrong.

 

I do maintain that if at some point Bioware brings in a spirit/shade character that has a more mature, adult mind/has been around for long enough to understand humans and the consequences of its actions better, it might be interesting to have that character be a romance option.  But Cole would need at least decade or two of mental and emotional maturity (which likely can only be gained through time and experience, if he manages to gain it at all--he might genuinely be limited in scope by his very nature) before he would even remotely be feasible.

[Flurdt Vash]

I really digged Asunder, to be honest Cole kinda grew on me ... although *not spoiling, just saying, and those who have read the book will no what Im talking about;P* His scene at the end of the book with Mr. YouKnowWho ... Was ... PRICELESS

 

Also .... again not trying to spoil, BUT when he learned the truth (more or less) of Who/what he is, that next scene that I was hinting at, he seemed almost a different person, like he HAD matured, or at least became more aware, at least that is how it read to me, could just have been how his voice sounded in my head during that fantastic last part

[Divine Justinia V]

I want Cole only if he's in Lambert's body.

[Master Warder Z_]

I want Cole only if he's in Lambert's body.

 

If that scenario does indeed come to pass one of two things will occur.

 

One the Lord Seeker will go to sit at his God's Side or two Lambert will be purged of that vile Disease.

 

Either way that bottom feeding parasite will be banished back to the cursed realm that birthed him.

[Rainbow Wyvern]

Ooh, Cole in Lambert's body! It'd be weird, because I despise Lambert, but Cole is my 3rd favorite character 

Dunno if I'd kill him because Lambert or let him live because Cole...