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#51
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So there's at least some reasonable people saying there is a correlation between the N7 rating and ME3 skills.
 
I hope nobody is going to deny that. If they are, are you sure it's not because you just denying it because you hate promoting and therefore are always excluded from having a high rating?


So how high does your N7 have to be before you can be considered "good"?

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Bah, promoting your classes over and over again has no correlation to skill, it just implies you have been playing the game for a long time. That is it.

 

That's not true. It also implies that you aren't dependent upon the opium known as respec cards. :P

I would say bite me, but as you are a ravenous bear, no thanks ;)



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You're only skilled if you have over 100,000 Challenge Points but under 200,000 Challenge Points.  It's science.

 

If I ever get over 200,000 Challenge Points I'll reevaluate my model.  But think about it as it stands.  Over 100,000 CP means this person did this challenge numerous times.  They had to use equipment most likely.  They had to use weapons they may not have enjoyed.  But the more challenge points they got, the more money they had to spend on playstations, beanie babies, etc...


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Bah, promoting your classes over and over again has no correlation to skill, it just implies you have been playing the game for a long time. That is it.

 

 

...and you may care about unlocking all the challenges (doesn't one require something like 60+ promotions?), and that you may be very fickle as to what builds you like, or you're trying to trivialize single-player by having a ridiculous amount of war assets for some reason.



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So there's at least some reasonable people saying there is a correlation between the N7 rating and ME3 skills.

 

I hope nobody is going to deny that. If they are, are you sure it's not because you just denying it because you hate promoting and therefore are always excluded from having a high rating?

 

It would be more accurate to say there is a correlation between N7 rating and time spent playing.

 

I can see why people would think those who play a lot are probably going to be good, but my personal experience with online gaming tells me otherwise. Those who do not want to improve their skills will not do so even with a large number of hours played.


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so at what point does n7 level mean that they are skilled?



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So there's at least some reasonable people saying there is a correlation between the N7 rating and ME3 skills.

 

I hope nobody is going to deny that. If they are, are you sure it's not because you just denying it because you hate promoting and therefore are always excluded from having a high rating?

 

I am. There is absolutely no link between N7 Rank and skill. My N7 is 3,480 and I know people with N7 Rank in the 100's (including a few who deliberately stopped at 120) who are as good as, or better than, me. I've also played with PUG's who've had 10,000+ N7 who were crap. I'm talking 40,000 points against Gold/Reapers crap.



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So how high does your N7 have to be before you can be considered "good"?

 

I would say beyond N7 3000. If you are promoting beyond that it's because you want to do instead of just doing in order to complete the promotion challenge. I would say that means you are good at promoting, which may mean you good at the game, good at spending money on the game, good at grinding away, good at resource management or a mixture of these.



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So you're expanding your explanation to include things that have no bearing on the game at all. Being able to spend money, being able to grind, and being good at resource management aren't actually "skill" and anyone can do that with enough patience.

Being good at this game takes knowledge, and no amount of patience makes up for that.
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That's not true. It also implies that you aren't dependent upon the opium known as respec cards. :P

I would say bite me, but as you are a ravenous bear, no thanks ;)

Nah, I always am able to get respec cards quickly from spectre packs. I am guess I am lucky.

 

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this crap again?

 

my n7 is 1080. does that mean i suck?  :huh:

please somebody, tell me now before i get angry.



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...and you may care about unlocking all the challenges (doesn't one require something like 60+ promotions?), and that you may be very fickle as to what builds you like, or you're trying to trivialize single-player by having a ridiculous amount of war assets for some reason.

 

Been there, done that. I got up to N7 3000 just so I wanted a "clean" number, and in my opinion it was not worth it. None of it improved my skills in this game.


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Oh crap!!!

 

My N7 is under 3000 .. guess I suck



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Yes and no.

 

All the high N7 players are good. I've played with most of the players in the top 10, they're all good.

 

Most low N7 players are bad. I die a little inside each time I see an N7 below 1000.

 

You don't need a high N7 to be able to play the game, but having an ultra high N7 ain't bad. In my case, I can say that I'm the best player in the world, simply because I have the highest N7 rank.

 

Credits come from playing thousands upon thousands of platinum speed runs. We used to be able to complete platinum games in 9 to 12 minutes. A a result, we were able to accumulate hundreds of millions of credits and spent a sizeable chunk of that on recruit packs. Aside from speedruns, it's easy enough to build up a decent amount of credits just by playing the game normally.

 

Your last paragraph touches on what is arguably one of the most important aspects of this game - rationing. When you're spending such huge quantities of credits on buying recruit packs (in my case, I've spent hundreds of millions of credits on recruits alone), it's definitely going to have a big impact on how you use your resources. You have to be wise with your limited resources. I've played thousands of games without using valuable items like cyclonic 4s. You have to learn to play with level 3 ammo bonuses while being content with a level 1 cyclonic and a level 1 weapon amp, that's pretty much a standard loadout for me. In my most desperate and tight times, I had to play some gold games with level 1 resources across the board...that was not fun. In any case, you're never going to be able to use max level consumables for every game as long as you continue to buy recruit packs to boost N7.

 

Cheers.



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Ah, the OP has a high N7 ranking. It all makes sense now.

 

Nothing to see here.

 

OP is a good guy and a good player too though.

 

Writing N7=Skill is like stating time played=Skill. Which is only true up to a point and has a few caveats - Mr High N7 could be a glitcher, hacker, carried by better friends, a casual Silver/Bronze player who just likes promoting or just a decent player who's spent the last two years slowly accumulating a high N7.

 

In general though I'd certainly be more inclined to think an N7-10000 player is at least more knowledgeable and competent than an N7-53 player.



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this crap again?
 
my n7 is 1080. does that mean i suck?  :huh:
please somebody, tell me now before i get angry.


OP says 3k makes you good, so yes. You suck. Happy to help!
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Been there, done that. I got up to N7 3000 just so I wanted a "clean" number, and in my opinion it was not worth it. None of it improved my skills in this game.


I know dat feel.

I went to 9000 because I wanted a clean number and I'd missed 6000 a long time ago. Also because I wanted to mess with the only other person to have N7 9000 on PS3. It was kind of worth it for that, but I didn't learn anything from the process or whatever.

Oh crap!!!
 
My N7 is under 3000 .. guess I suck


I didn't want to say anything Max, but...
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I know dat feel.

I went to 9000 because I wanted a clean number and I'd missed 6000 a long time ago. Also because I wanted to mess with the only other person to have N7 9000 on PS3. It was kind of worth it for that, but I didn't learn anything from the process or whatever.


I didn't want to say anything Max, but...

 

That's it! I'm going to get my N7 to 3000 so I can be good ..



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Played with a guy yesterday who said he was constantly promoting to get a higher N7 level so that he can unlock better weapons.

 

I would therefore suggest that your theory is flawed.


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It's not even funny anymore


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Yes and no.

 

All the high N7 players are good. I've played with most of the players in the top 10, they're all good.

 

Most low N7 players are bad. I die a little inside each time I see an N7 below 1000.

 

You don't need a high N7 to be able to play the game, but having an ultra high N7 ain't bad. In my case, I can say that I'm the best player in the world, simply because I have the highest N7 rank.

 

Credits come from playing thousands upon thousands of platinum speed runs. We used to be able to complete platinum games in 9 to 12 minutes. A a result, we were able to accumulate hundreds of millions of credits and spent a sizeable chunk of that on recruit packs. Aside from speedruns, it's easy enough to build up a decent amount of credits just by playing the game normally.

 

Your last paragraph touches on what is arguably one of the most important aspects of this game - rationing. When you're spending such huge quantities of credits on buying recruit packs (in my case, I've spent hundreds of millions of credits on recruits alone), it's definitely going to have a big impact on how you use your resources. You have to be wise with your limited resources. I've played thousands of games without using valuable items like cyclonic 4s. You have to learn to play with level 3 ammo bonuses while being content with a level 1 cyclonic and a level 1 weapon amp, that's pretty much a standard loadout for me. In my most desperate and tight times, I had to play some gold games with level 1 resources across the board...that was not fun. In any case, you're never going to be able to use max level consumables for every game as long as you continue to buy recruit packs to boost N7.

 

Cheers.

 

Oh my god. He/she/it is back.

 

We are doomed.


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ok I figured it out. OP is confusing N7 with "hours played".

high N7 = time. time = skill, and even that isn't true.

N7 is still an indicator of nothing, hours played doesn't make you a good player.

/thread.
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Punning as intended



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ok I figured it out. OP is confusing N7 with "hours played".
high N7 = time. time = skill, and even that isn't true.
N7 is still an indicator of nothing, hours played doesn't make you a good player.
/thread.


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You talk sense, but this thread is far from over. Try to enjoy it!

 

Indeed. Kook entered the thread. Prepare for BS.