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[Supreme Leech]

Indeed. Kook entered the thread. Prepare for BS.

 

Why do you hate me so much? Am I not entitled to a point of view?

[GruntKitterhand]

In-game performance = skill.

 

As a strict adherent to 'maybe logic' I recognise that a high N7 rank almost invariably must mean a lot of experience playing the game, which logically should lead to better skills, most of the time.  The problems kick in when I witness either inappropriate loadouts (not just stupid loadouts but ones that don't work) or missiles fired at the enemies behind during escort waves (or at the last enemy on early waves) or bleeding out at really bad times or deliberately prioritising sabotaged pyros or repeatedly sync-killed vanguards etc from players with N7 ranks in the thousands.  But in all honesty those don't happen too much, and it's the overwhelming sense of frustration at a 'High N7' player doing such things that skews perceptions and leads to generalisations about scrubbiness. Maybe.

 

I'd say I'm more likely to judge a player's skill based on witnessing a wave 1 over-cover-grab (map knowledge), team-oriented healing turret or bubble, whether they're covering me from a safe distance while I'm hacking, missiling targets, with me on the escort or IN THE CIRCLE, and, perhaps most importantly, chilling with me on the opposite side of the map for the majority of wave 11.

 

I would add that I've never played a game with someone I would consider to be an 'unskilled' BSNer, irrespective of either rank, the OP most definitely included.

[Creator Limbs]

You're giving yourself too much credit.

[FireRider100]

OP says 3k makes you good, so yes. You suck. Happy to help!

 

 

Oh crap!!!

 

My N7 is under 3000 .. guess I suck

 

I'm afraid you guys do suck at promoting , there's a skill in improving it.

[jamdjedi]

E-P33n thr34d!

[RavenousBear]

I know dat feel.

I went to 9000 because I wanted a clean number and I'd missed 6000 a long time ago. Also because I wanted to mess with the only other person to have N7 9000 on PS3. It was kind of worth it for that, but I didn't learn anything from the process or whatever.
 

Ouch, I cannot imagine the pain of doing that all over again. I just hate the constant grinding that it requires.

[BurningLiquor]

Why do you hate me so much? Am I not entitled to a point of view?

 

I do not hate you. And of course you're entitled to your point of view and your opinion.

 

That doesn't make you right, however.

[MaxCrushmore]

I'm afraid you guys do suck at promoting , there's a skill in improving it.

I actually stopped at 2400 for almost a year .. then in a moment of drunken stupidity I rolled a class over.

 

I am now in the process of going for 3000 .. will probably sit on that # for awhile as apparently that is the established bar for skill on BSN

[Argent Xero]

I'm afraid you guys do suck at promoting , there's a skill in improving it.

I'm N7 120, and I can tell you that I won't gain any knowledge or any additional skill by promoting.

it's a wasted effort.

[Creator Limbs]

Yeah, I don't really think that Argent would gain any head knowledge from promoting.

[10K]

Let's not for get about those missile glichers in platinum. I haven't played a platinum in so long because of those fricken missile glitchers. 

[mechanical_lunatic]

A successful U/U/G game will give you enough XP to get a lvl 1 character up to lvl 10/11.

Another one takes you to lvl 14/15. From here it is almost like playing a lvl 20 character.

This "strategy" will increase your N7 rank quite fast and requires at least some skill, if you don't want to leech.

You might even learn something new about the character you are playing.

 

 

Playing lvl 1 characters in U/U/G lobbies with 3 randoms is fun.

Discuss!

Modifié par mechanical_lunatic, 24 mars 2014 - 07:22 .

[Argent Xero]

A successful U/U/G game will give you enough XP to get a lvl 1 character up to lvl 10/11.
Another one takes you to lvl 14/15. From here it is almost like playing a lvl 20 character.
This "strategy" will increase your N7 rank quite fast and requires at least some skill, if you don't want to leech.
You might even learn something new about the character you are playing.
 
 
Playing lvl 1 characters in U/U/G lobbies with 3 randoms is fun.
Discuss!

I can get the same results by skipping fitness.

[DcIhNaGv3z]

A successful U/U/G game will give you enough XP to get a lvl 1 character up to lvl 10/11.

Another one takes you to lvl 14/15. From here it is almost like playing a lvl 20 character.

This "strategy" will increase your N7 rank quite fast and requires at least some skill, if you don't want to leech.

You might even learn something new about the character you are playing.

 

 

Playing lvl 1 characters in U/U/G lobbies with 3 randoms is fun.

Discuss!

 

Very fun, and an engaging challenge.  This game persistently feels fresh and new, and still continues to challenge and engage me.  

[RGB]

A successful U/U/G game will give you enough XP to get a lvl 1 character up to lvl 10/11.
Another one takes you to lvl 14/15. From here it is almost like playing a lvl 20 character.
This "strategy" will increase your N7 rank quite fast and requires at least some skill, if you don't want to leech.


Playing lvl 1 characters in U/U/G lobbies with 3 randoms is fun.
Discuss!

The only problem with this logic is that you don't actually have to contribute in-game to get full XP after the game. I've hauled plenty of level 1 characters through Gold while they spent a lot of waves 3-11 in spectator mode. This goes back to my "one-and-done" post. If you take one game in ten different Gold lobbies and each one leads to extraction, you've got around 800k credits and a level 20 character. All you really need to do to avoid getting kicked is throw on some consumables and use an "OP" class that people are used to and/or receptive toward. Ex. Trooper, TGI, etc.

That doesn't take any skill and it happens often enough for me to say it's at least as common as level 1 characters played well in the average PUG.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

OP is a good guy and a good player too though.

 

Good guy or not, it's a silly argument to make.

[Tokenusername]

3000 is a good number. Now that I have it I never intend to promote again and ruin it. Subsequently that means I'll never finish the N7 challenge, but whatever. Who wants to be a BotB scrub anyway.

...alt N7 banner's kind of neat though.

[Jaded4Chaos]

Challenge Points > N7 Rating.  Neither demonstrate skill though

[jamdjedi]

A successful U/U/G game will give you enough XP to get a lvl 1 character up to lvl 10/11.

Another one takes you to lvl 14/15. From here it is almost like playing a lvl 20 character.

This "strategy" will increase your N7 rank quite fast and requires at least some skill, if you don't want to leech.

You might even learn something new about the character you are playing.

 

 

Playing lvl 1 characters in U/U/G lobbies with 3 randoms is fun.

Discuss!

 

I usually play silvers with level one, I feel like I'm leeching rolling into a Gold lobby with a lvl 1 kit.. if I can get at least to lvl 4  in a gold where I can at least have each basic power from my kit and again have the illusion of helping my team. Generally I'm feel like I'm not leaching at lvl 4-6, everything else is gravy

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

No. The game has been out for just over two years, and anyone can go into the class selection screen and hit Promote a gazillion times.

N7 = Time played. Time played =/= skill.

[FireRider100]

So you're expanding your explanation to include things that have no bearing on the game at all. Being able to spend money, being able to grind, and being good at resource management aren't actually "skill" and anyone can do that with enough patience.
 

 

Erm...isn't good resource management the corner stone of many games including this one.

[SpaceV3gan]

N7 Rank is, if anything, a mere sign of experience and dedication. Most high N7 players I've seen perform well enough, and generally they know what they are doing, even when they bring low level characters. Are they the most skilled players out there? Nope. We all know promoting adds nothing to skills.
That was my unbiased view.
In my personal view, promoting is very fun, satisfying and entertaining. I see no reason to stop promoting.

 

[LuckyStarr]

My [uneducated] impression thus far is that N7 rating doesn't reflect skill, but it does reflect experience. Which, in turn, generally correlates with skill.

[Cyonan]

Erm...isn't good resource management the corner stone of many games including this one.

 

Resource management is the corner stone of survival games like Banished, Don't Starve, etc.

 

It's more of a very minor thing in a game like Mass Effect, especially considering it is by no means needed in order to be good at the game.

[Creator Limbs]

I've run into people that've been playing the game for about as long as I have but are still terrible. Time does not equal skill.