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[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

^^^ peeing fire.

[N7BlackDahlia]

Not really.

[bondiboy]

This again?. There is a big difference between saying N7 = Skill   and  saying that there is "some" skill required to reach a

high N7 rating . The first assumption is without basis and you only need one  good N7 120 player ( and there are plenty of great players with this N7) to dismiss that argument .

 

There may be something in the second argument for the reasons that the OP has pointed out

[Argent Xero]

Very much so. My argument is that the N7 rating can be guide to indicate if they will be a good player or not. It's flawed in that people can keep it artificially low (by not promoting) or heighten it by paying for it or playing lower level difficulties for a long time. But from my own personal experience if I'm in a lobby full of high N7 ratings the match is almost certain to go well. Very rare not to be the case.
 
Also, is there something odd happening here where people are giving examples of where they played with a high N7 and they basically sucked. Why are you remembering that specifically? Do you remember the times where you played with a high N7 and they didn't suck?

N7 alone is meaningless. The only N7 I'll consider taking notice of would be 3,000+, but even then that is only "partial" of what I would take into account. Weapon loadout, mod selection, Gear selection all have more significance than N7 and even then it isn't a good indicator that the match will be good or not.

N7 is just a thing you can do for fun, it doesn't mean anything, and it certainly doesn't grant you any additional skill by promoting.

[robarcool]

BSN hasn't yet forgotten how to drag pointless threads like these.

[Tokenusername]

N7 is just a thing you can do for fun

Then what does that make everything else?

[Argent Xero]

Then what does that make everything else?

I don't understand the purpose of the question.

Everything that involves challenge in the game is fun, promoting and leveling your character over and over again is fun? go for it.

N7 is just a number, and promoting is a "challenge", just like everything else.

[Tokenusername]

I don't understand the purpose of the question.

Meaning is there some expectation that you do things in this game for reasons other than to have "fun"?

[Argent Xero]

Meaning is there some expectation that you do things in this game for reasons other than to have "fun"?

epeen babby.

1v1 me Thunderdome/Silver.

[Faerlyte]

The N7 ranking is not a reliable benchmark for whether or not someone is a skilled player. It's not even a true indicator of how much time a person has spent playing the game because it's entirely dependent on promoting your characters. Not everyone promotes their characters. 

 

It could be said that an extraordinarily high N7 rank is probably indicative of a skilled player, but even then there are a lot of variables. You really only need a couple of really good friends to play with and they can carry you through matches. 

 

But more importantly, who cares? 

[BIGGLESBY]

For N7 to equal skill, a high N7 must be very skillful, and a low N7 must not be skillful at all.

 

Because this is false, N7=/= Skill. Every time. It is indicative for nothing besides promotions and time spent.

[nOeXTRACTION]

No. No and just No.

 

I really cant understand why that stupid question always comes up. The N7 Points and even the Challenge Points are saying absolutly nothin about skill. Beside the fact that u can just cheat ur N7 Points via Credit Hack. Even when they are legit, u can just get them by stupidly being carried by other players on Gold/Plat.

 

The only thing that maybe can be an Indicator for skill in my opinion is the wave/point ratio in the Spectre Mastery and the Solo Mastery in the Manifest.Everythin else just means nothin...

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

Surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet.

[mechanical_lunatic]

Surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet.

 

But this "discussion" is soooo productive . . .

 

213 replies already.

11 pages full of nice and useful things said.

 

We should have had a moderator responsible for leading the discussion however. So how about a conclusion, e.g. "END OF LINE".

[FireRider100]

N7 alone is meaningless. The only N7 I'll consider taking notice of would be 3,000+, but even then that is only "partial" of what I would take into account. Weapon loadout, mod selection, Gear selection all have more significance than N7 and even then it isn't a good indicator that the match will be good or not.

N7 is just a thing you can do for fun, it doesn't mean anything, and it certainly doesn't grant you any additional skill by promoting.

 

I think you are proving the point I'm trying to make. You said N7 alone is meaningless and yet you take notice of it when it is 3000+, so it does have some meaning. What I have been trying to say (either I'm not saying it right and/or people aren't listening) is that N7 can be used as a positive indicator on how well the player is going to play. I'm not saying that if you have a low N7 you aren't skilled in the game.

 

Also, it's not an absolute. Someone will a high N7 can still be bad at the game but from my own personal experience that generally isn't true.

 

And yes, equipment and gear are good indicators too. Usually someone equipping consumables is "serious" about trying to help get a successful mission, plus they will find it easier to kill the enemy.

 

And more importantly, this game is meant to be played for FUN.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

There is definite connection between n7+cp =experience, and experienced players are generally better than inexperienced players. But it is innaccurate to state in a tabloid newspaper fashion that all experienced players are better than inexperienced players. Too many unknown variables.

[CrimsonN7]

The only thing that requires skill is glitching, complainers pls.

[Creator Limbs]

Glitching is hard...

[Argent Xero]

I think you are proving the point I'm trying to make. You said N7 alone is meaningless and yet you take notice of it when it is 3000+, so it does have some meaning. What I have been trying to say (either I'm not saying it right and/or people aren't listening) is that N7 can be used as a positive indicator on how well the player is going to play. I'm not saying that if you have a low N7 you aren't skilled in the game.
 
Also, it's not an absolute. Someone will a high N7 can still be bad at the game but from my own personal experience that generally isn't true.
 
And yes, equipment and gear are good indicators too. Usually someone equipping consumables is "serious" about trying to help get a successful mission, plus they will find it easier to kill the enemy.


and more importantly, this game is meant to be played for FUN.

I know where you're coming from, but I'm not saying that I do take notice. I'm saying that it's what I would consider taking notice of if was a good indicator.

I usually check equipment anyway, regardless of the N7 or not so saying N7 can be a good indicator, when better and more clear methods exist is sort of redundant.

This is why I say N7 is meaningless, and that it's only just a number.

[Creator Limbs]

No Argent, you're not taking this from me. I'm better at this game because I have a higher N7 than you.

[DcIhNaGv3z]

This is kind of how I see the relationship between skill, experience and a high N7 rating.  All three are independent of each other and can exist without the other.  You can have players who are brand new to the game, with no experience and no N7, yet out-of-the box exude high amounts of innate skill.  You can also have players with lots of play time experience, yet never promote and still suck.  You can also have a High N7 rating, without any experience or skill via "Hacked Credits" or simply buying thousands of packs with money.

 

But if you were to track the quantity of High N7 ranked players over skill (assuming we have a metric to measure skill, which we dont, but just for arguments sake...).  You would find that the far majority of High N7 players are at the very least decent at the game.  With a small portion being exceptional and a small portion being terrible.

 

In my subjective experience.  When a high N7 enters your lobby, there seems to be strong statistical probability they will be both experienced and be skillful at the game.

 

[Argent Xero]

No Argent, you're not taking this from me. I'm better at this game because I have a higher N7 than you.

but that would mean Kook is correct.

[FireRider100]

No Argent, you're not taking this from me. I'm better at this game because I have a higher N7 than you.

 

Evidence on other threads (solo run times, team challenges...etc) and comments from other BSNers suggests otherwise. Also they are better at explaining why they disagree in a tactful and logical manner.

[FireRider100]

You going out on a hot date and have a choice of two dates; one smartly dressed and the other quite scruffy. Which one do you think is the more wealthy?

 

1. The smartly dressed one because those clothes cost money.

2. The scruffy one because they don't like dressing up smartly and I can tell from a glint in their eye.

3. Can't tell, the smartly dressed one may have mugged someone for the clothes.

4. Can't tell and wealth isn't important to me it's all about personality (I won't know till I talk to them).

 

What's my point?

First impressions and N7 rating is one of those.

[ClydeInTheShell]

How many times do I have to demand breakfast-related innuendo before this thread gets locked? 

 

On topic: no.