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[pallascedar]

One of the few things i agree with the Dalish about is that all spirits are dangerous, but I'd expand that upon and view all of them as negative.

 

So to me? You would be a non mage abomination, or an Abomination in a normal sense if you were a mage, Even Wynne herself acknowledges what she is.

 

Anders acknowledges what he is, There isn't anything positive or decent in the denizens of the Fade.

 

But you can tell Wynne that it isn't just being possessed that makes you an abomination, but the fact that the demon destroys what you were before the possession. Bad spirits take over and change a person, if you're still who you were before the possession, I'd argue that you're not an abomination. It's all semantics though, if you want to define any sort of possession as being an abomination I won't argue. But like Wynne, I think that people (and abominations) are defined by their actions, not just by what they are.

 

Anders was an abomination; Wynne wasn't.

[J-Reyno]

Do we know how exactly the inquisitor is able to close the veils?  Is it just some special power somehow gifted to them that they now innately possess?  Or is it like an item, a jewel or a necklace that the inquisitor obtains that gives them this ability?

[Scott Sion]

Don't be stupid OP. Everyone knows Sandal IS the Maker.

[DontWakeTheBear]

Don't be stupid OP. Everyone knows Sandal IS the Maker.

Actually, I'm pretty sure Sandal's going to be the big bad at the end 

The Maker is actually Ser Pounce Alot.

[themageguy]

If not directly possessed, perhaps a sort of "Chosen" of the maker? Intervenes when is necessary, grants unique abilities, without the whole D&D cleric jumbo.

A nice theory.

[themageguy]

Don't be stupid OP. Everyone knows Sandal IS the Maker.

Perhaps the maker tried to possess Sandal and that's what addled him.
And might explain how the hell he froze a Pride Demon in ice - not enchantment!!!

[Scott Sion]

Actually, I'm pretty sure Sandal's going to be the big bad at the end 

The Maker is actually Ser Pounce Alot.

 

That's what they want you to think. It makes sense that a kitten would represent a god like entity and a slow dwarf would be his arch enemy, but that's what they're banking on you believeing. Think about it...

[Master Warder Z_]

Anders was an abomination; Wynne wasn't.

 

The Spirit can potentially drive her to suicide via the Warden.

 

I'd say it warped her pretty much as badly as it did Anders, it was just more subtle, her shifting stances on issues, her constant change of character and lack of consistence personality led me to believe that, she was a pre Anders, Anders, long before DA 2 came around.

[pallascedar]

The Spirit can potentially drive her to suicide via the Warden.

I'd say it warped her pretty much as badly as it did Anders, it was just more subtle, her shifting stances on issues, her constant change of character and lack of consistence personality led me to believe that, she was a pre Anders, Anders, long before DA 2 came around.

Maybe. We never meet her pre spirit so it's hard to say. I imagine that Wynne would have always defended the children with her life. Perhaps it gag some thing to do with her attacking the Warden who corrupts the ashes, but again, we didn't know Wynne pre-spirit.

Faith spirits are also much more powerful than Justice. As a more powerful spirit I imagine it's be more capable of maintaining the separation of psyches I'd it wished to do so.

[MWImexico]

Do we know how exactly the inquisitor is able to close the veils?  Is it just some special power somehow gifted to them that they now innately possess?  Or is it like an item, a jewel or a necklace that the inquisitor obtains that gives them this ability?

 

I don't think it will be an item because otherwise it would be easy for everyone to contest/challenge the legitimity of the Inquisitor. If this special power realy exist (which is not confirmed yet) then it could explain why the different factions cannot simply reject an Inquisitor who doesn't belong to their own faction.
Also, in the leaked concept art, I think there is a representation of the fem and male Inquisitor who both have a green glowing hand?  (The tears in the veil are also green)

[Laughing_Man]

If you assume that the maker is a god, and even more so if he is THE GOD, why would he need to possess a lowly meatbag?

Can't he, I don't know, create himself some kind of an avatar on thedas?

Or better yet, why would he even need to be on the same level as the mortals in order to do what he wants?

[Laughing_Man]

The Spirit can potentially drive her to suicide via the Warden.

 

I'd say it warped her pretty much as badly as it did Anders, it was just more subtle, her shifting stances on issues, her constant change of character and lack of consistence personality led me to believe that, she was a pre Anders, Anders, long before DA 2 came around.

 

Nothing about what Wynne did requires this explanation.

 

Her so called "shifting stances", and "constant change of character", are nothing more than a result of what she sees around her.

And then you also add the fact that you have special Goddamn Protagonist powers of presuasion and influence,

and so the fact that everyone (mostly) are changing their mind or going to the extreme because of you is even less of a surprise.

 

There is nothing "abominable" about her, and there is even less to suggest that her spirit became corrupted.

[Gervaise]

It's a while since I played DAA but in the Black Marsh, didn't we mend tears in the veil?   Okay they weren't very big ones but they were there.   So you don't have to be a deity to close them, just know what to do.  May be the Inquisitor is just tuned in some how to the spirit world.   The screen shots often show him with a bird (a raven).   May be that is some sort of familiar spirit in the form of a bird that only communicates with the Inquisitor and gives him useful information concerning the Fade, Fade creatures and Fade tears.

[Former_Fiend]

You know, were I playing as God, I'd want special powers beyond the realm of what amounts to opening and closing doors.

[Johun]

I don't know about a spirit, the green fire looks rather sinister. Must be a Fade-related power that gives the PC the excuse to be the Inquisitor.

According to the World of Thedas, Hope is the most powerful type of spirit, one we haven't encountered yet. They're rare because "there is little in the mortal realm to attract them." Ouch. Sick burn.

[Cainhurst Crow]

You're possessed by the spirit of dance, and you just gotta shake it for the world.

[CybAnt1]

If you assume that the maker is a god, and even more so if he is THE GOD, why would he need to possess a lowly meatbag?

 

 

... same problem I had with the movie Dogma, but of course, I didn't expect a movie mocking dogmatism to do real well at representing official theology. 

 

... the Church certainly claims the Deity can speak to people, as do angels, but unlike as in (say) Haitian Voudoun, they don't possess people. (Although that is sorta supposed to be what is going on when people are "filled with the Holy Spirit" in Pentecostalism .... sorta.) 

 

... Demonic possession is certainly regarded as a thing, the Vatican still utilizes exorcists.