Was the increase in swearing due to the different writers?
#76
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 01:43
#77
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 01:46
#78
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 01:47
HYpertropHY wrote...
I will surely cry myself to sleep tonight ahglock
Loud manly weaping will be heard the world over I am sure.
I do somewhat agree on the "mature" part of things. I always thought it was a poor term for this type of thing, it really is "not for kids". There is very little mature about the movies I watvh or the games i play, but i owuld not show them to a kid, intentionally at least.
Modifié par Ahglock, 22 janvier 2010 - 01:47 .
#79
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 01:58
The game is rated mature so i'd expect some sort of bad language as part of the whole badass renegades fighting for the lost image the game is presenting, maybe they could add a patch so those who dont like it cant filter it out for a more pg rated experience at a later date though.
#80
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 02:02
#81
Guest_SwobyJ_*
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 02:13
Guest_SwobyJ_*
Terror_K wrote...
ME1 feels like it was made by veterans and fans of old classic sci-fi appealing to fans of the genre. ME2 feels like it was made by modern Hollywood youngsters going for the mainstream and trying to just make dollars.
Been following your posts for a while, and it seems that you just don't like anything about this game. It confuses me why you spend so much time discussing it.
#82
Guest_SwobyJ_*
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 02:13
Guest_SwobyJ_*
#83
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 02:36
JudgeQwerty wrote...
I wonder if this explains why Cerberus has gone from murdering and experimenting on humans by the bushel to being some sort of heroic bastion of human safety...
If only that were the worst thing happening in ME2. /sigh
#84
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 02:38
Is Drew coming back after TOR to work on ME3? I assume Chris isn't if he went to another studio.jaethos wrote...
Wrex.the.next.spectre wrote...
When did ME1's writers leave? Or did I misunderstand the OP.
I thought Drew Karpyshyn was part of ME2 and writing a 3rd book in the ME universe.
Drew did work on ME2, but he left a while back to go to the Austin studio and work on TOR. He's no longer the head writer, though I suspect he had a very large part in the overall arc of the trilogy. Chris L'Etoile left for another studio, though I think he did some writing for ME2 before he left. Mac Walters, the head writer on ME2, was one of the writers on ME1, and I'm pretty sure Patrick Weekes said he came in to Bioware after ME1. As such there has been a shift in the writers between the games, though it not a complete change by any means.
#85
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 02:48
Arcite550 wrote...
I think its more about the day in age we live in, its getting more acceptable to curse and all that so your going to see it more and more in videogames, movies, cartoons (Family Guy etc) TV.. all of that, so it may be due to that... thats my two cents anyway
I agree with this mostly!
Not the family guy stuff but just modern culture.
I mean most these kids cant be bothered to type YOU rather then U, how you expect them to actually have language skills? Swearing is what they relate to now a days!
And yes, most parents once again wont do their jobs and under 18 kids will make up a large portion of this games audience, regardless of rating, so appealing to them is important from a marketing standpoint.
#86
Guest_Crawling_Chaos_*
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 02:52
Guest_Crawling_Chaos_*
-Zorph- wrote...
Stanley Woo wrote...
I think the rougher language works well with the darker tone and story of ME2.
Nice save.
And again, we here the word 'darker' mentioned by a dev.
Haha.
*EDIT* I have nothing against the language and agree with it's usage.
Uh, Woo isn't a dev FYI.
#87
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:40
Military personnel are notoriously foul-mouthed, and have been throughout history. Also, Shepard has mecenaries and at least one criminal in his party this time around. Both should also be fairly foul mouthed.
#88
Guest_Bennyjammin79_*
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 04:57
Guest_Bennyjammin79_*
ME2 = downtown
#89
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 05:26
When did Drew karpyshyn leave. was he fired or did he not work on Mass Effect 2. Isn't he writing Mass Effect Redemtion? i loved the other books he wrote. why not have him as a writer?jaethos wrote...
First off, I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with it, nor do I want to get in to any sort of discussion on whether anyone likes it or not.
I'm just wondering why Bioware went from ME1, which had virtually no swearing, to ME2, which if the gameplay videos I've seen (including the xfire one today) seems to be just below the level of Saints Row 2 in terms of frequency.
I know that Drew Karpyshin and Chris L'Etoile left the Mass Effect team sometime during development (they were the lead writers on the first) and wonder if it is in part due to the increased roles Mac Walters and Patrick Weekes have.
I know it's supposed to be the dark second act and that we go to seedier parts of the galaxy, but other than the Citadel we weren't exactly in happy sparkly places in the first game. It's just kind of jarring to see, or rather hear, just how different much of the dialogue sounds.
#90
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 05:30
#91
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 07:17
This game is rated for Mature so I think it's natural people curse. This is not Star Wars where even the bad guys would be shocked if you'd say "fu*k you" to them.
#92
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 07:33
Kalfear wrote...
Arcite550 wrote...
I think its more about the day in age we live in, its getting more acceptable to curse and all that so your going to see it more and more in videogames, movies, cartoons (Family Guy etc) TV.. all of that, so it may be due to that... thats my two cents anyway
I agree with this mostly!
Not the family guy stuff but just modern culture.
I mean most these kids cant be bothered to type YOU rather then U, how you expect them to actually have language skills? Swearing is what they relate to now a days!
And yes, most parents once again wont do their jobs and under 18 kids will make up a large portion of this games audience, regardless of rating, so appealing to them is important from a marketing standpoint.
Oh bugger off, and take your cynical, misguided and downright poisonous over-generalisations with you.
I'd hazard a guess that the words you pretentiously spew in EVERY SINGLE POST, are far more damaging than the odd "****" here or "U" there.
P.s. This is not unwarranted.
P.p.s. Arguing with stereotypes has never been a valid tool of debate.
Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 22 janvier 2010 - 07:38 .
#93
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 07:36
Stanley Woo wrote...
I think the rougher language works well with the darker tone and story of ME2.
agreed
#94
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 07:40
WilliamShatner wrote...
OMG U jerk U SHOT MY MOTHER fudgeing LEG OFF... to me that dosent sound right
So at what point in ME was that sentence said?
"Someone up there needs my boot up their butt"
That just sounds kinda lame.
#95
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 07:42
KainrycKarr wrote...
WilliamShatner wrote...
OMG U jerk U SHOT MY MOTHER fudgeing LEG OFF... to me that dosent sound right
So at what point in ME was that sentence said?
"Someone up there needs my boot up their butt"
That just sounds kinda lame.
I don't think I'd trust a foot up my butt, that was attached to a leg, that wasn't attached to a person.
That definitely doesn't sound right.
#96
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 07:43
Darth_Shizz wrote...
Kalfear wrote...
Arcite550 wrote...
I think its more about the day in age we live in, its getting more acceptable to curse and all that so your going to see it more and more in videogames, movies, cartoons (Family Guy etc) TV.. all of that, so it may be due to that... thats my two cents anyway
I agree with this mostly!
Not the family guy stuff but just modern culture.
I mean most these kids cant be bothered to type YOU rather then U, how you expect them to actually have language skills? Swearing is what they relate to now a days!
And yes, most parents once again wont do their jobs and under 18 kids will make up a large portion of this games audience, regardless of rating, so appealing to them is important from a marketing standpoint.
Oh bugger off, and take your cynical, misguided and downright poisonous over-generalisations with you.
I'd hazard a guess that the words you pretentiously spew in EVERY SINGLE POST, are far more damaging than the odd "****" here or "U" there.
P.s. This is not unwarranted.
P.p.s. Arguing with stereotypes has never been a valid tool of debate.
He's a troll man. Just ignore him
#97
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 07:47
SurfaceBeneath wrote...
Darth_Shizz wrote...
Kalfear wrote...
Arcite550 wrote...
I think its more about the day in age we live in, its getting more acceptable to curse and all that so your going to see it more and more in videogames, movies, cartoons (Family Guy etc) TV.. all of that, so it may be due to that... thats my two cents anyway
I agree with this mostly!
Not the family guy stuff but just modern culture.
I mean most these kids cant be bothered to type YOU rather then U, how you expect them to actually have language skills? Swearing is what they relate to now a days!
And yes, most parents once again wont do their jobs and under 18 kids will make up a large portion of this games audience, regardless of rating, so appealing to them is important from a marketing standpoint.
Oh bugger off, and take your cynical, misguided and downright poisonous over-generalisations with you.
I'd hazard a guess that the words you pretentiously spew in EVERY SINGLE POST, are far more damaging than the odd "****" here or "U" there.
P.s. This is not unwarranted.
P.p.s. Arguing with stereotypes has never been a valid tool of debate.
He's a troll man. Just ignore him
I worked that out a long time ago, and I don't often respond to trolling. Still, he's actually annoying the hell out of me now
...wait, why did I just admit that???
Uh-oh...
#98
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 08:39
"f*ck the f*cking f*ckers" - really a flexible wonder.
Cursing has also standards, and is native to...pretty much every social group. I dont see a problem with hearin curses when they're justified by situation. What is unacceptable for me is hearing children sewar coz its "cool" to use F interchangeable with a coma...
#99
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 08:49
As long as it isn't gratuitous, I really couldn't give a f***. Overusing curse words is bad.
#100
Posté 22 janvier 2010 - 01:25
Modifié par SethSteiner, 22 janvier 2010 - 01:27 .




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