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[teh DRUMPf!!]

 On the topic of Thessia, I tend to imagine my Shepard is more upset over failure -- on principle -- rather than losing Thessia as such.

 

 

But it's not him being upset that bothers me so much as how he expresses it: by being broody. 

[Shuidizi]

There are many small things, but the only thing I really cannot tolerate no matter what is this one:

 

Dreaming about with that horrendous kid. 

[Coming0fShadows]

I could do without Shepard looking like he/she is going to cry in almost every cutscene in ME3 (seems like every time anyway). Such as watching the kid get blown up in his shuttle, in his/her dreams, after Thessia, with the VS being injured... Not to mention stopping to try and help the kid out of a vent, or how about even stopping and going back to look, after hearing a sound in an area you just fought through. Oh and Shepard caring only about earth, when i believe the majority of the people playing had zero emotional attachment to earth, since we visited it oh so often in the previous games. I mean its a Sci Fi Space game of course all I should care about is going back to earth and being there, what was I thinking.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Right so let me know if I leave any convo unaccounted for. I'm working off memory and what vids I can find as I'm not on a computer that has the game installed right now.

 

Thanks!  This list is very helpful. 

 

My next playthrough when I get around to it will be with a MaleShep, so I'll have to deal with him acting angrier than he should be, but I guess I could just work this into his paranoid personality. He's the one expected to save the galaxy after everyone else ignored his warnings, and when something goes wrong, he's the one that they blame when they're the ones who did nothing. It'll make him think everyone's out to get him. And then he snaps at Joker for bringing it up again. He'll follow up with the Paragon response though. 

 

The lines of dialogue you listed seem like they could work all right for this Shepard. Minor wording issues ("losing Thessia" vs "losing on Thessia", or mentioning Thessia before the Catalyst data) can probably be justified because I imagine my Shepard's not speaking in his first language anyway. Maybe all of his worst dialogue blunders can be explained this way. Translation error. 

 

Now I just have to figure out what else he could mean by "sorry" if not apologizing to the asari councilor. 

[Barquiel]

I didn't really have many problems with Shepard in ME1 and ME3. Ok, Shepard's Earth-centric bias in ME3 was a bit annyoing. I mean, the turians are not exactly my favorite race in the ME universe...but "See this devastation Primarch? Double that for Earth!" Really? To me it looks the other way around.

 

ME2 Shep irritated me more. Cerberus railroading, Shepard being an idiot on Horizon (I still can't decide who's the bigger idiot here...Shep or the VS), Shepard having all the emotion of a brick wall on Illium (Liara), some of the "canon" friendships (Garrus, Joker) and a few other stupid lines like "I'll do it without sacrificing the soul of our species"

[voteDC]

Oh and Shepard caring only about earth, when i believe the majority of the people playing had zero emotional attachment to earth, since we visited it oh so often in the previous games. I mean its a Sci Fi Space game of course all I should care about is going back to earth and being there, what was I thinking.

This annoyed me greatly. My Shepard was from Mindoir but the only line I recall about that was in an optional DLC. Why isn't Shepard more concerned about her home world instead of Earth.

[Sir DeLoria]

Shepard having all the emotion of a brick wall on Illium (Liara)

What do you mean? I thought Shep was way too emotional for meeting someone he never gave a damn about.

[jtav]

But if you're romancing her, it's like the romance doesn't exist. Certainly not the emotional reunion you'd expect.

[Barquiel]

I posted things my Shepard has done in canon that I found irritating. Keywords: *My Shepard*

Liara was all emotional, she just told me that she saved Shepard's body from the collectors
And all Shepard can say to console her girlfriend is... "You did the right thing Liara. My mission is important."
 
What? Does Shepard even give a crap about being alive?

[DeinonSlayer]

"It's not so bad once you get used to the hot meals and soft beds."

Really, Shepard? I'd call the ME2/3 cabin overindulgent, if anything. The crew sleeps in pods.

[CrutchCricket]

 On the topic of Thessia, I tend to imagine my Shepard is more upset over failure -- on principle -- rather than losing Thessia as such.

 

 

But it's not him being upset that bothers me so much as how he expresses it: by being broody. 

 

Which would be fine if we could clearly express our anger along those terms without being wangsty over losing a planet in a war where planets are lost daily.

 

I, the player was pretty annoyed at being forced to lose so that's definitely an emotion I could've shared with my character.

 

I didn't really have many problems with Shepard in ME1 and ME3. Ok, Shepard's Earth-centric bias in ME3 was a bit annyoing. I mean, the turians are not exactly my favorite race in the ME universe...but "See this devastation Primarch? Double that for Earth!" Really? To me it looks the other way around.

 

ME2 Shep irritated me more. Cerberus railroading, Shepard being an idiot on Horizon (I still can't decide who's the bigger idiot here...Shep or the VS), Shepard having all the emotion of a brick wall on Illium (Liara), some of the "canon" friendships (Garrus, Joker) and a few other stupid lines like "I'll do it without sacrificing the soul of our species"

 

I didn't really have many problems with Shepard in ME1 and ME2. Ok the Thessia bias in ME3 was a bit quite annoying. I mean, the asari are not exactly my most hated race in the ME universe... but "losing the asari homeworld wasn't in the playbook!" Really? You lose planets by the shipful, but losing this one is the dealbreaker?

 

ME3 Shep irritated me the most. Alliance railoading, Shepard being an idiot on multiple locations (I still can't decide which is worse... "this isn't about tactics or survival" or "Citadel? The fight's here"), Shepard having forced emotions up the ass about some kid, the canon friendship (Liara) and a few other stupid lines like "In case you haven't noticed we just lost a few million people."

 

See what I did there?

 

I posted things my Shepard has done in canon that I found irritating. Keywords: *My Shepard*

Liara was all emotional, she just told me that she saved Shepard's body from the collectors
And all Shepard can say to console her girlfriend is... "You did the right thing Liara. My mission is important."

 

Cue Liara being cold and distant for the rest of her appearance even when you're alone, until the end of Shadow Broker.

 

If it were me I'd say "Alright you want to be wangsty over a random drell and tell me it's been 2 years and things have changed? Fine. Have a nice mission, have a nice life."

[Hadeedak]

"It's not so bad once you get used to the hot meals and soft beds."

Really, Shepard? I'd call the ME2/3 cabin overindulgent, if anything. The crew sleeps in pods.

 

 

Shepard's room doesn't have a fish tank that I saw, either.

 

I'm just assuming the food's REALLY good and the bed's super cush.

[Barquiel]

I didn't really have many problems with Shepard in ME1 and ME2. Ok the Thessia bias in ME3 was a bit quite annoying. I mean, the asari are not exactly my most hated race in the ME universe... but "losing the asari homeworld wasn't in the playbook!" Really? You lose planets by the shipful, but losing this one is the dealbreaker?
 
ME3 Shep irritated me the most. Alliance railoading, Shepard being an idiot on multiple locations (I still can't decide which is worse... "this isn't about tactics or survival" or "Citadel? The fight's here"), Shepard having forced emotions up the ass about some kid, the canon friendship (Liara) and a few other stupid lines like "In case you haven't noticed we just lost a few million people."
 
See what I did there?

Depending on how you want to roleplay Shepard you can find different things irritating. I already knew that.

ME2 was the worst for my Shepard (paragon/pro-council-alliance). No matter how hard I tried, I felt like she was nothing but an emotionless hollow shell with a gun throughout most of the game. Players who want a stoic Shepard or like cerberus are obviously much more happy with ME2.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

"It's not so bad once you get used to the hot meals and soft beds."

Really, Shepard? I'd call the ME2/3 cabin overindulgent, if anything. The crew sleeps in pods.

 

Leadership gets benefits. 

[DeinonSlayer]

Leadership gets benefits.

Of that I have no doubt, but still... do you find Shepard's line appropriate given his prior accomodations?

[kleindropper]

I'd have to say the worst thing is sitting there and watching Thane fight all by himself when there are three heavily armed and combat trained people (Shep and 2 squadmates) standing around with weapons trained on Kai Leng.

 

And then Shep can't manage to do a biotic charge/ stasis/ pick off Leng with his sniper rifle as he gets away?

[Hadeedak]

Let's all take a moment to realize if Shepard could biotic charge in cutscenes as a renegade interrupt, the game would be a lot shorter and a lot funnier.

 

"What about Shepard? She's a...AUGH WHAT THE HELL."

[ImaginaryMatter]

Let's all take a moment to realize if Shepard could biotic charge in cutscenes as a renegade interrupt, the game would be a lot shorter and a lot funnier.

 

"What about Shepard? She's a...AUGH WHAT THE HELL."

 

That's one reason why they need to seriously cut back on the fighting cutscenes. Those sorts of things are lame and lazy in general, but in ME3 they are especially grating.

[Display Name Owner]

Giving a flying duck about Vent Boy. Or more specifically dreaming about Vent Boy.

 

Also willingly sitting in a prison knowing the galaxy is days from being ruined and wrecked.

[DeathScepter]

Depending on how you want to roleplay Shepard you can find different things irritating. I already knew that.

ME2 was the worst for my Shepard (paragon/pro-council-alliance). No matter how hard I tried, I felt like she was nothing but an emotionless hollow shell with a gun throughout most of the game. Players who want a stoic Shepard or like cerberus are obviously much more happy with ME2.

 

People admire a certain amount of stoicism in their leadership. If their leaders have the appearance of emotional self control even if they are ready to break side, It can inspire others to put a brave face on.

 

As for Cerberus fanboys, Many people prefer having an organization that is trying to look out of Human Self Interest. Yes I am aware of what Cerberus does.

[von uber]

Cerberus is pretty much after TIM interest. He wants humanity to be powerful.. with him at the top.

[DeathScepter]

Humanity needs to become powerful with or without Aliens in the rest of the galaxy.

[congokong]

I posted things my Shepard has done in canon that I found irritating. Keywords: *My Shepard*

Liara was all emotional, she just told me that she saved Shepard's body from the collectors
And all Shepard can say to console her girlfriend is... "You did the right thing Liara. My mission is important."
 
What? Does Shepard even give a crap about being alive?

 

There are times romanced Shepard should be giving Liara hugs. This and after Thessia. Shepard says it so casually too. It has been eating away at Liara for 2 years. Time for comfort.

 

At that point technically they weren't in a relationship. Dying kind of breaks things off. I could understand some distance. ...But... then what was the welcoming kiss about?

 

I made a thread stating the Illium encounter was the most poorly written scene in the series.

 

http://social.biowar...17855733-1.html

[congokong]

People admire a certain amount of stoicism in their leadership. If their leaders have the appearance of emotional self control even if they are ready to break side, It can inspire others to put a brave face on.

 

As for Cerberus fanboys, Many people prefer having an organization that is trying to look out of Human Self Interest. Yes I am aware of what Cerberus does.

The concept of Cerberus is interesting. To me they come across as a necessary evil. Like it or not, all races look out for themselves. Weaker races can get bullied. I like Kelly Chambers' metaphor about her sister starting a dog shelter but loving cats too. Cerberus' platform isn't racism although it will inevitably occur.

[DeathScepter]

Don't forget that The STG is not so innocent with Reaper Tech and they were studying it as of Mordin's background line within ME2 as of Tunchaka