The things Shepard has done in canon that ****** you off...
#151
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 05:53
#152
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 05:53
#153
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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:00
Guest_Jesus Christ_*
Kill the Dalatrass....when? The only time you talk to her in-person is during the summit with Victus and Wrex/Wreav.
Yeah, during a diplomatic summit, the last thing we need is Shepard blowing off heads when you're trying to build alliances.
*insert picard facepalm meme*
EDIT: I see you were just quoting KaiserShep. Never mind.
#154
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:23
as for that "prison ship", it wouldn't surprise me if half of the captives that moved through there were either, innocent victims (from the blue sun's acts of piracy), or simply people they wanted out of the way. (ie: not criminals at all.)
That really makes very little sense. There's no point in keeping innocent people on an expensive prison ship.
#155
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:32
"Look at that! He's drifting lazily to the left!"
Whoa, this guy knows some maneuvers!
#156
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:33
The Crucible is the last hope,without it we are finished anyway so anything that might win the war deserves a try.
Right. If anyone had a better plan they'd be using it.
#157
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:38
That really makes very little sense. There's no point in keeping innocent people on an expensive prison ship.
You're talking about a gang who were going to capture Shepard for no real reason other than profit. They also were willing to kill a Turian general for looking into their activities. When you're talking about gangs there is very little that ever makes sense.
#158
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:41
You're talking about a gang who were going to capture Shepard for no real reason other than profit. They also were willing to kill a Turian general for looking into their activities. When you're talking about gangs there is very little that ever makes sense.
Profit is a pretty decent reason for criminals to do things. Really, most things criminals do are motivated by profit.
Keeping innocent and nonthreatening captives on an expensive prison ship is not going to make anyone profit.
#159
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:41
Considering Jack's background, I always assumed that Jack was added to the list of dossiers specifically because she was a Cerberus asset, and it was likely he wanted to have her back. As for releasing the prisoners, to be fair, none of that would have been necessary at all if the warden kept up his end of the bargain and simply let Shepard take Jack and leave.
Interesting, but I don't see that as a reason for Shepard to recruit her. If Jack isn't being recruited directly as a way to aid the mission (and given her personal instability and noted anti-Cerberus bent, there's no reason for any character to believe at the time she's recruited that she will be a great asset to the mission), then Shepard is essentially acting as a glorified errand boy for Cerberus.
I also don't think the warden's doing a bad thing justifies Shepard in doing another seemingly unrelated bad thing. Once you find out that freeing Jack requires freeing all the prisoners, it'd be nice to have the option to just cut your losses and get the heck out of dodge right then and there.
#160
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:42
Who says they stay there long? It's basically a slave-trading operation.Profit is a pretty decent reason for criminals to do things. Really, most things criminals do are motivated by profit.
Keeping innocent and nonthreatening captives on an expensive prison ship is not going to make anyone profit.
#161
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:45
When you're talking about gangs there is very little that ever makes sense.
Incorrect.
#162
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Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:47
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Profit is a pretty decent reason for criminals to do things. Really, most things criminals do are motivated by profit.
Keeping innocent and nonthreatening captives on an expensive prison ship is not going to make anyone profit.
There are rumors that the Blue Suns sell many of the captives to Batarian slavers. If these rumors are true(which is highly believable, being the Blue Suns), then it makes sense to have able-bodied, non-violent captives on board the ship. They would make a great profit off of the trade, and the prisoners would pose little, to no threat to the Batarians. The Blue Suns are a scummy bunch at best, and it's unlikely that they legitimately care about keeping crazed killers from society.
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#163
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:49
Profit is a pretty decent reason for criminals to do things. Really, most things criminals do are motivated by profit.
Keeping innocent and nonthreatening captives on an expensive prison ship is not going to make anyone profit.
Slavery seems like a very lucrative buisness in the Mass Effect universe. The whole concept of slavery is taking innocent people and forcing them into labor. If I recall Shepard even calls Kuril a two-bit slaver at one point. Judging from how willing they were to sell Jack, a sociopathic killer it's easy to assume they aren't there to keep the galaxy safer.
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#164
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 06:50
Incorrect.
Care to elaborate on that point.
#165
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 07:14
The fact that people do in fact buy inmates to do as they please with them does provide Kuril with incentive to wrongfully detain people. It's an extortion ring in space. I would fully expect that and more.That really makes very little sense. There's no point in keeping innocent people on an expensive prison ship.
The fact that Kuril tried to do exactly that to Shepard is proof.
#166
Posté 30 mars 2014 - 08:43
actually read my post, I never said they'd keep the slaves there forever, I said half the captives that move through there. what is it about the phrase "move through there" that tells you they'd keep the captives there for extended periods of time?
#167
Posté 31 mars 2014 - 07:41
The AutoHug (which we couldn't skip watching) complete with her longingly whispering Shepard's name was a very awkward moment for anyone who didn't romance her. Same for Shepard's, ah, enraptured greeting of her on Mars, though I'm pretty sure that's a bug considering that he has a similar tone greeting Tali if romanced and a casual "Glad you could make it" if not.
Confession: I've never seen the unromanced Illium greeting so I cannot comment.
I have seen videos of the unromanced Mars greeting with a male Shepard. He says rather formally "Liara" instead of the more romantic "you too Liara" in response to her "Shepard, thank the goddess you're alive" comment.
#168
Posté 31 mars 2014 - 07:43
Not taking the barrel of my Black Widow and beating the snot out of Han'Garrel with it.
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#169
Posté 31 mars 2014 - 07:49
Geez... and here I was giving Bioware the benefit of the doubt that Shepard's enraptured greeting of her on Mars was a bug. I'm still hoping that's the case. Are you sure the "you too, Liara" is really the romantic one?Confession: I've never seen the unromanced Illium greeting so I cannot comment.
I have seen videos of the unromanced Mars greeting with a male Shepard. He says rather formally "Liara" instead of the more romantic "you too Liara" in response to her "Shepard, thank the goddess you're alive" comment.
The tone Shepard uses to greet Liara when you haven't romanced her is the same tone he uses to greet Tali if you have. Otherwise you greet Tali with a more casual "glad you could make it." Sounds like "you too, Liara" was supposed to be what was said if you aren't with her, as opposed to "Liaaaaarrraaa!". They simply got switched.
#170
Posté 01 avril 2014 - 12:52
Profit is a pretty decent reason for criminals to do things. Really, most things criminals do are motivated by profit.
Keeping innocent and nonthreatening captives on an expensive prison ship is not going to make anyone profit.
The Warden's actions might have made more sense if the plan was to sell Shepard to the Shadow Broker. The SB still owed the Collectors a corpse.
#171
Posté 01 avril 2014 - 01:28
Geez... and here I was giving Bioware the benefit of the doubt that Shepard's enraptured greeting of her on Mars was a bug. I'm still hoping that's the case. Are you sure the "you too, Liara" is really the romantic one?
The tone Shepard uses to greet Liara when you haven't romanced her is the same tone he uses to greet Tali if you have. Otherwise you greet Tali with a more casual "glad you could make it." Sounds like "you too, Liara" was supposed to be what was said if you aren't with her, as opposed to "Liaaaaarrraaa!". They simply got switched.
Switching would make sense. Either that or it's part of the pattern of Liara being much more interested in a Shep she isn't sleeping with. Because the Liaramance is, well, one of the few times I wouldn't be shocked a LI was cheating.
#172
Posté 01 avril 2014 - 04:52
Because the Liaramance is, well, one of the few times I wouldn't be shocked a LI was cheating.
Why is that?
#173
Posté 01 avril 2014 - 08:02
Geez... and here I was giving Bioware the benefit of the doubt that Shepard's enraptured greeting of her on Mars was a bug. I'm still hoping that's the case. Are you sure the "you too, Liara" is really the romantic one?
The tone Shepard uses to greet Liara when you haven't romanced her is the same tone he uses to greet Tali if you have. Otherwise you greet Tali with a more casual "glad you could make it." Sounds like "you too, Liara" was supposed to be what was said if you aren't with her, as opposed to "Liaaaaarrraaa!". They simply got switched.
I'm positive the "you too, Liara" is the romance one. I'm an exclusive Liaramancer. Like I said, I've seen videos of the unromanced Mars dialogue and it is different. The "Liiiarrraaa" you speak of is with what gender? I've only seen videos of the male one and it sounded like a formal "Liara."
Never romanced Tali so I don't know what their romance dialogue is like. I may have seen a video but I don't remember it.
Err... What are we discussing here though? That Shepard speaks romantically with an unromanced Liara? On Mars from what I've seen that isn't the case. And... is this turning into another Liara hate thread?
#174
Posté 01 avril 2014 - 08:40
When Anderson says'Harbinger and some Sovereign class reapers have broken off from the main battle', Shepard stands there looking all clueless and says' Harbinger?'
#175
Posté 01 avril 2014 - 08:46
When Anderson says'Harbinger and some Sovereign class reapers have broken off from the main battle', Shepard stands there looking all clueless and says' Harbinger?'
I got the impression that Shepard was just exhausted. Hale's voice acting at least indicated that. There was a hell of battle with like a dozen banshees/brutes right before that mysteriously vanish once you launch the missile.





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