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#25201
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Justinia also killed a bunch of people to secure her place as Divine, and everyone suspects this.Guess it's okay then.

 

The fact know about something or suspect it does not make it right. 

I never said it was. Just some speculation about possible scenarios.



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Justinia also killed a bunch of people to secure her place as Divine, and everyone suspects this.Guess it's okay then.

The fact know about something or suspect it does not make it right.

If that is true, or even commonly believed to be true, how do you reconcile that with Cassandra agreeing to serve as Justinia's right hand? Seems incongruous to me. I don't imagine she'd want to serve a Divine who murdered her way to the top.

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It definitely happened. The MoS is told as much before Justinia arrives and she can be blackmailed with the information. The sad fact is, whenever discussing who is more right about Justinia, Leliana or Cassandra, Leliana will always be more accurate. Everybody knows this except Cassandra herself. Even Sera gets that, "There's family loss there." 



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Everybody knows this except Cassandra herself. 

Cassandra later admits that she didn't know Justinia at all in another banter with Sera.



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I meant about being Divine. She uses it as a reason she should be Divine, fulfilling Jusitinia's wish. 



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Eh, Cassandra would be better off staying with the Inquisition.

 

Hell, she is more suited for the position of Lady Inquisitor than the PC IMO.



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I meant about being Divine. She uses it as a reason she should be Divine, fulfilling Jusitinia's wish. 

Uhh I'm a bit lost here, care to elaborate? I only recall Cassandra saying that she and Leliana remember different person in Justinia.



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Uhh I'm a bit lost here, care to elaborate? I only recall Cassandra saying that she and Leliana remember different person in Justinia.

It's not like the conversation stops there. She says that they both want to honor Justinia's memory. Then you ask her how she would be Divine, she says she wants the reform Jusinia wanted. Ask Leliana, she says she'll wipe the slate clean. Both are radically different. Which one would Jusitinia favor? Probably Leliana's version of the Chantry.  

 

I never said it was. Just some speculation about possible scenarios.

It's not going to happen because Chantry law officially forbids it. That's the point. Cassandra is going to bend the rules, and Josephine makes that official when speaking of corrupt Templars in Ostwick. 



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#25210
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It's not like the conversation stops there. She says that they both want to honor Justinia's memory. Then you ask her how she would be Divine, she says she wants the reform Jusinia wanted. Ask Leliana, she says she'll wipe the slate clean. Both are radically different. Which one would Jusitinia favor? Probably Leliana's version of the Chantry.  

 
 

It's not going to happen because Chantry law officially forbids it. That's the point. Cassandra is going to bend the rules, and Josephine makes that official when speaking of corrupt Templars in Ostwick. 

Not sure I agree with this statement. Cassandra said that the world could only take so much change and that Justinia knew this, unlike Leliana. So there's that. Then again it probably boils down to their different perception of Justinia. Both would probably like to think that their views aligned with hers more, but there is no way to know who is right, without actually asking Justinia. But I only read the books until Asunder, so maybe other ones provide more insight on that, idk. As for Leliana conversation, I have to admit I didn't pay any attention after "Waaa I'm glad you're not the one who chooses the Divine" part.

 

It happens when you say that the templars were bribed, so you can visit your home? I only recall Josephine saying something like "They're lucky Cassandra didn't know". What does this have to do with her bending the rules? But I only saw this convo once, so maybe I'm missing some detail here.



#25211
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*snip*

Biting the lip, huh? :wub:



#25212
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Biting the lip, huh? :wub:


Hot

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Biting the lip, huh? :wub:

 

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#25214
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Oh ****, those cass pics are ****** sexy...



#25215
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Open them up in separate windows and click back and forth between them. Your welcome.


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I wonder if Cass is a cuddler...

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#25218
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Those two and that one you made Gif should be pinned to the OP, if the OP was still around, lol. I can't stop looking at these...



#25219
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Those two and that one you made Gif should be pinned to the OP, if the OP was still around, lol. I can't stop looking at these...

Mesmerising, innit? ;)



#25220
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Hell yes...



#25221
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for the lazy lol

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#25222
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I wonder if Cass is a cuddler...

 

Her romance scene should tell you :P



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Not sure I agree with this statement. Cassandra said that the world could only take so much change and that Justinia knew this, unlike Leliana. So there's that. Then again it probably boils down to their different perception of Justinia. Both would probably like to think that their views aligned with hers more, but there is no way to know who is right, without actually asking Justinia. But I only read the books until Asunder, so maybe other ones provide more insight on that, idk. As for Leliana conversation, I have to admit I didn't pay any attention after "Waaa I'm glad you're not the one who chooses the Divine" part.

Again, this goes back to Cassandra having no idea who Justinia really was. Justinia didn't know those things and clearly worked in opposition to this, even in Asunder. The fact is, if you asked me if Justinia is more like Cassandra, who had a very loose business relationship with her, one that Cassandra by your own words admits gave no insight into Justinia's character, or Leliana who might as well have been her daughter, I'm going with Leliana. This is like saying there is no way to know if Abraham Lincoln really wanted to ease the South back into the US instead of setting up the military districts that came later. He clearly did. 

 

 

It happens when you say that the templars were bribed, so you can visit your home? I only recall Josephine saying something like "They're lucky Cassandra didn't know". What does this have to do with her bending the rules? But I only saw this convo once, so maybe I'm missing some detail here.

The Divine cannot legally have lovers or marry, I'm not sure what's so confusing about this. So no, Cassandra is probably not going to take the Inquisitor on as a lover when Chantry law forbids it. As opposed to Leliana who says **** it, and tells everyone she's banging the Warden, and then later saying, "And now it's okay too." 



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Her romance scene should tell you :P


I meant besides after sex.

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Not sure I agree with this statement. Cassandra said that the world could only take so much change and that Justinia knew this, unlike Leliana. So there's that. Then again it probably boils down to their different perception of Justinia. Both would probably like to think that their views aligned with hers more, but there is no way to know who is right, without actually asking Justinia. But I only read the books until Asunder, so maybe other ones provide more insight on that, idk. As for Leliana conversation, I have to admit I didn't pay any attention after "Waaa I'm glad you're not the one who chooses the Divine" part.
 
It happens when you say that the templars were bribed, so you can visit your home? I only recall Josephine saying something like "They're lucky Cassandra didn't know". What does this have to do with her bending the rules? But I only saw this convo once, so maybe I'm missing some detail here.


Technically, the Seekers were Templar-Circle internal affairs. If Templars were being bribed by the Trevelyans so they could see their child she'd be obligated to act.

Cassandra's Neutral Good in my book. To quote the TvTropes:

Actively Good — for them, Goodness is an Ideal as well as (or less likely, instead of) an obligation. They devote themselves to a life of Goodness and doing Good is the most important thing in their lives, or one of at least. They believe in doing what is Right and may sacrifice personal happiness, perhaps even in advance, in pursuit of that. If they are not an Ideal Hero, they admire and seek to imitate them. This type wants to do good, to go out and have adventures and to right wrongs and fight evil, but might be unprepared for the harsh realities they have to face, though they will probably have strong enough principles and beliefs that this will not stun them for long. Alternatively, Comes Great Responsibility is in play and they feel that doing good is their duty — this does not make them Lawful Good, but means that they will do good regardless of whether Lawfulness is in play.