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[Retconnaissance]

Again, this goes back to Cassandra having no idea who Justinia really was. Justinia didn't know those things and clearly worked in opposition to this, even in Asunder. The fact is, if you asked me if Justinia is more like Cassandra, who had a very loose business relationship with her, one that Cassandra by your own words admits gave no insight into Justinia's character, or Leliana who might as well have been her daughter, I'm going with Leliana. This is like saying there is no way to know if Abraham Lincoln really wanted to ease the South back into the US instead of setting up the military districts that came later. He clearly did. 

 

 

 

The Divine cannot legally have lovers or marry, I'm not sure what's so confusing about this. So no, Cassandra is probably not going to take the Inquisitor on as a lover when Chantry law forbids it. As opposed to Leliana who says **** it, and tells everyone she's banging the Warden, and then later saying, "And now it's okay too." 

 

Whle Cassandra may not have known Justinia well as a person, I find it hard to believe that she didn't relay her plans of changes to her closest servants, or that Cassandra is incapable of discerning those from the orders she was given, because they would've clearly indicated her approach to many things. Unless Justinia was not being straight with Cassandra and only gave her orders that she would not question, while withholding her entire plan. Which, I suppose, is possible, given her background. I'm not sure I'm willing to trust Leliana more, despite her longer history and closer relationship with Justinia. Because once again she claims that their relationship was "special', that it somehow transcended the limits of actual human relationships. So Leliana's usual clouded judgement and her need to be "the chosen one", be that in the eyes of the Maker or Justinia, may be in play here. She may claim to have special insight and it would of course make sense to belive her, she knew the Divine for a long time after all. But it wouldn't be the first time she claimed to have those insights, signs and what have you. Does she actually have them? I'm not so sure.

 

The confusing part was you saying that Cassandra IS going to bend the rules, which was somehow evident from conversation with Josephine. Merely clarifying the source of misunderstanding here.

[Br3admax]

Whle Cassandra may not have known Justinia well as a person, I find it hard to believe that she didn't relay her plans of changes to her closest servants, or that Cassandra is incapable of discerning those from the orders she was given, because they would've clearly indicated her approach to many things. Unless Justinia was not being straight with Cassandra and only gave her orders that she would not question, while withholding her entire plan. Which, I suppose, is possible, given her background. I'm not sure I'm willing to trust Leliana more, despite her longer history and closer relationship with Justinia. Because once again she claims that their relationship was "special', that it somehow transcended the limits of actual human relationships. So Leliana's usual clouded judgement and her need to be "the chosen one", be that in the eyes of the Maker or Justinia, may be in play here. She may claim to have special insight and it would of course make sense to belive her, she knew the Divine for a long time after all. But it wouldn't be the first time she claimed to have those insights, signs and what have you. Does she actually have them? I'm not so sure.

Cassandra clearly says she follow "blindly" before. As did Leliana. She had no close relationship with Justinia, or anyone for that matter, to speak of to know anything about her personal beliefs or wants for the world. The fact that Lelaina is insane aside, there's really no debating that, she still actually knew Justinia. Cassandra did not. Cassandra has literally no claim to know a single thing more about Justinia than anyone. Leliana has known Justinia for decades. It's an easy decision for me to say Leliana knew her better and what she wanted better. Her actions in Asunder only  cement that idea for me. Cassandra has what going for her? Being told to go get random guy x every few years? Nah, brah.

 

The confusing part was you saying that Cassandra IS going to bend the rules, which was somehow evident from conversation with Josephine. Merely clarifying the source of misunderstanding here.

 

Never said that. I said she wouldn't and that it wasn't going to happen. 

[Colonelkillabee]

Gif made a better version of the walking gif:

 

 

[Retconnaissance]

Cassandra clearly says she follow "blindly" before. As did Leliana. She had no close relationship with Justinia, or anyone for that matter, to speak of to know anything about her personal beliefs or wants for the world. The fact that Lelaina is insane aside, there's really no debating that, she still actually knew Justinia. Cassandra did not. Cassandra has literally no claim to know a single thing more about Justinia than anyone. Leliana has known Justinia for decades. It's an easy decision for me to say Leliana knew her better and what she wanted better. Her actions in Asunder only  cement that idea for me. Cassandra has what going for her? Being told to go get random guy x every few years? Nah, brah.

 

 

Never said that. I said she wouldn't and that it wasn't going to happen. 

An interesting discussion to be sure. I suppose I could argue some more but since changing your opinion, or somehow trying to win this is not my aim at all, let's just agree to disagree, shall we? And it's rather tedious for me to type all this.

 

 

 

It's not going to happen because Chantry law officially forbids it. That's the point. Cassandra is going to bend the rules, and Josephine makes that official when speaking of corrupt Templars in Ostwick. 

 

Check your actual post if you don't belive me. But that's not the point. Thing is that as a non-native English speaker I automatically assumed I didn't get the phrase, or I'm missing some context, which led to this whole confusion.

[Cespar]

Dorian and Cassandra just had a banter about her being divine. He thinks she is mad for even considering the role, because it would place a big target on Cassandra, which is true. She told him that she didn't want to think about that, so I guess Cassandra is a bit afraid and little concern about being the divine. I mean there is nothing wrong with that, but maybe the seeker's role would had been a little better for her. 

[Cespar]

Did you not see her smile when you offer in making her Divine when you with the supportive, nobility, or flirt options? She looks so happy that the Inquisitor believes she could do the job. I can't take that away from her.

I know, I agree with you! I'm all for Cassandra for Divine 9:42 Dragon. But, she also looks happy when you pick the flirt option during the conversation about rebuilding the seekers. Only time will tell which one she's happy with. Kind of like the mage/warden Bethany. 

[thesuperdarkone2]

Did you not see her smile when you offer to make her Divine with the supportive, nobility, or flirt options? She looks so happy that the Inquisitor believes she could do the job. I can't take that away from her.

If she's chosen, she's absolutely miserable and outright begs you to rejoin you and she hasn't even been crowned yet. Softened Leliana's dialogue if she becomes Divine is touching and makes me glad I choose her. Cass gets to stay with me, can do stuff she likes like rebuilding the Seekers, and Leliana does what I prefer as Divine. That's why I don't make Cass divine.

 

P.S. That troll thread was just sad. 0/10 just pathetic.

[AresKeith]

I know, I agree with you! I'm all for Cassandra for Divine 9:42 Dragon. But, she also looks happy when you pick the flirt option during the conversation about rebuilding the seekers. Only time will tell which one she's happy with. Kind of like the mage/warden Bethany. 

 

I don't see why she can't do both

[thesuperdarkone2]

I don't see why she can't do both

If she's not Divine, she can fully dedicate herself to the Seekers and aiding them. However, if she's divine, she might have other matters like visiting this place, dealing with problems with the commoners, and other stuff. Plus, another lord seeker would be in charge who might wind up being corrupt.

[Cespar]

I don't see why she can't do both

She will need to be devoted to one or the other. I'm all for her reforming ideas, so she makes for the best divine. The circle and templars are needed, but change can make the best living outcome for both parties.  

[thesuperdarkone2]

Judging by the amount of likes and the array of different people that liked it I can only surmise that you have bad tastes.

Considering that it got closed, the mods agree that you are just trolling. Plus, it's just people who don't like me. Bet if I made a thread essentially stating "TheDarkKnightReturns sucks and everything he says  sucks" and lots of people liked it, I'd assume you'd hate it. 

 

Considering that thread was essentially just a hate thread against me, you just can't handle that I'm around. I enjoy irritating you so much. Least I don't have to be so pathetic about it lol

[thesuperdarkone2]

No I'd LOL, tbh.

Until you get banned. Go ahead and make another thread like that, I'm sure I'll enjoy your ban

[Master Warder Z_]

7 Warnings and counting. Some nobody on the other side of the net has got me all James Brown shook up.

To be honest the mods are a tad bit over eager to defend their own stances.

[Merela]

Would you kindly continue that discussion though PMs? Thanks.

 

 

http://harellanart.t...a-leather-pants

[TheJediSaint]

Because of course a sword and shield are considered bare essentials for Cassandra.

[Obvious_Shining]

Oh god...

Spoiler

inspired by mr. killabee

[Br3admax]

An interesting discussion to be sure. I suppose I could argue some more but since changing your opinion, or somehow trying to win this is not my aim at all, let's just agree to disagree, shall we? And it's rather tedious for me to type all this.

 

No.

 

 

 

Check your actual post if you don't belive me. But that's not the point. Thing is that as a non-native English speaker I automatically assumed I didn't get the phrase, or I'm missing some context, which led to this whole confusion.

I don't read my own ****, because as an artist that's be pretentious. What did I say? 

[Colonelkillabee]

7 Warnings and counting. Some nobody on the other side of the net has got me all James Brown shook up.

Ha, that makes me feel better, lol. I've only got three.

[TheJediSaint]

Ha, that makes me feel better, lol. I've only got three.

If this were golf, I'd be winning.

[Colonelkillabee]

What the hell does it take to get banned around here? LOL.