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AresKeith

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Again, if the player f**ks it up somehow or ends it themselves.

 

It isn't as if Gaider sits in his office and thinks up new ways to end romances. It's also something not exactly exclusive to Gaider (so why he's the scapegoat is beyond me) when you consider the sheer amount of writers on the staff and every single romance that can end. 

 

Because he's the lead writer and everything seems to get pointed at him for some reason



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Gaider's romances haven't ended with any sort of pattern or track record to speak of, because they haven't "ended" unless the players either f**ks it up or ends it themselves.

 

This weird stereotype of Gaider somehow writing ominous romances completely puzzles me, because it has no basis in reality and is entirely contradicted by what is possible in the games.

 

Morrigan's romance is written by Gaider and yet it can end really well. As it is, the romance if you make Cassandra Divine is not fully resolved, though not on the same level as Solas' romance. 



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Morrigan's romance is written by Gaider and yet it can end really well. As it is, the romance if you make Cassandra Divine is not fully resolved, though not on the same level as Solas' romance.


Well... Divine romance might not fully resolve but I'm pretty sure they can't be together. I think the best one can expect is a moment for goodbye or stay on friendly term.

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Cassandra is beautiful. That is all.


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Because he's the lead writer and everything seems to get pointed at him for some reason

Like how everybody blames Mac Walters for every bad thing in ME3.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Mac Walters is largely free of talent and merit (why Bioware promoted him for MENext is beyond me), but he isn't to blame for everything.



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Because he's the lead writer and everything seems to get pointed at him for some reason


That's because final descisions rest with him.

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Like how everybody blames Mac Walters for every bad thing in ME3.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Mac Walters is largely free of talent and merit (why Bioware promoted him for MENext is beyond me), but he isn't to blame for everything.

 

Walters is a decent character writer. He's the author behind Garrus, after all. He just can't plot stories. 


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Morrigan's romance is written by Gaider and yet it can end really well. As it is, the romance if you make Cassandra Divine is not fully resolved, though not on the same level as Solas' romance. 

 

Morrigan's romance only ends well via DLC. The ending in DA:O is very bittersweet. 


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Walters is a decent character writer. He's the author behind Garrus, after all. He just can't plot stories. 

Hence "largely". Garrus was okay, and he wrote crit-path Miranda in ME2.

 

On the other hand, he also made the Crucible, the circle-jerk non-logic for the Catalyst, and removed my ability to take the Reapers seriously as antagonists.


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Morrigan's romance only ends well via DLC. The ending in DA:O is very bittersweet.


What happens in inquisition, if a warden who romanced her didn't do witchhunt?

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What happens in inquisition, if a warden who romanced her didn't do witchhunt?


The game assume that you play all DLC. So, it can be only go through with her, let her go or stab her

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Hence "largely". Garrus was okay, and he wrote crit-path Miranda in ME2.

 

On the other hand, he also made the Crucible, the circle-jerk non-logic for the Catalyst, and removed my ability to take the Reapers seriously as antagonists.

 

But again, writing plot is very different from writing characters. I do think the distinction matters a lot. 



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What happens in inquisition, if a warden who romanced her didn't do witchhunt?

My canon Warden romanced her but didn't go through the Eluvian. If this occurs, in Inquisition, she claims that she was close to the Warden and leaving him was difficult for her, and if she talks to Alistair, she says that she tried to find the Warden so he could meet Kieran but the Warden already went missing by then. Apart from that, the game acts the same as if she wasn't romanced.I like to headcanon she left the Inquisition to still try and find the Warden. Still, being with Morrigan meant abandoning the world and your duties including your doggie. As much as my character loves Morrigan, he can't deal with abandoning his loyal doggie.



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But again, writing plot is very different from writing characters. I do think the distinction matters a lot. 

It does. Characters are my own strong suit. I'm not that great at plots myself, but at least I don't completely ruin the story I'm trying to tell by totally changing the genre at the last minute, unlike Walters.



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Nah, the inquisitor is not Justina..They spent years with Justian, and neither show the level of devotion to the inquisitor, that they did to Justina.

Sorry, I was just picturing this:  

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While typing...that. :P

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AresKeith

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What happens in inquisition, if a warden who romanced her didn't do witchhunt?

 



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The game heavily implies she breaks up with you if she becomes Divine. She won't if she remakes the Seekers. Considering how Gaider's other romances have ended, I'm not optimistic of the relationship continuing.

Morrigan's romance can end well, Aerie's romance ended well (though I've never cared for Aerie's roamnce, I've only watched a let's play).



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Andres Hendrix

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Gaider's romances haven't ended with any sort of pattern or track record to speak of, because they haven't "ended" unless the players either f**ks it up or ends it themselves.

 

This weird stereotype of Gaider somehow writing ominous romances completely puzzles me, because it has no basis in reality and is entirely contradicted by what is possible in the games.

It has a basis in reality. You can ask the question "have more of Gaider's romances ended badly, more so than they have ended well?" Then you go through each romance and answer said question. The problem here is that you don't even understand the clichés you use in your silly impulsive reactions. In this case "basis in reality". The Viconia romance did not end well (under all possible conditions), therefore one can say that there is a posiblity that Cassandra's romance might not end well.It's not like Gaider has not written bitter endings to romances. This is basic emperisim.



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Morrigan's romance can end well, Aerie's romance ended well (though I've never cared for Aerie's roamnce, I've only watched a let's play).

Yeah but you have to pretty much abandon your entire life to be with her. You have to abandon being prince-consort, warden-commander, bann of the alienage, and other things to be with her. And yes, you have to abandon your dog to be with Morrigan. As much as my character loves Morrigan, my canon warden thinks his duty is too important to be with her. Plus, I couldn't handle abandoning my loyal dog. What's going to happen to him if you go through the eluvian :(

 

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Yeah but you have to pretty much abandon your entire life to be with her. You have to abandon being prince-consort, warden-commander, bann of the alienage, and other things to be with her. And yes, you have to abandon your dog to be with Morrigan. As much as my character loves Morrigan, my canon warden thinks his duty is too important to be with her. Plus, I couldn't handle abandoning my loyal dog. What's going to happen to him if you go through the eluvian :(

 

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The Warden saved the world he deserves some peace, if he stays  he will live a life in abject conditions (whenever another weird Darkspawn plagues the world with bizarre baby spiders), and then he will die in even worse conditions in the deep roads. With Morrigan he can at least have some peace and love with his family. That is what makes him leaving with Morrigan the good ending, people have been indoctrinated with the high fantasy trope of populism. Rarely in high fantasy do we see an individual's liberty and utility portrayed as being all that important, because if  one looked from the top down (the populace, to the individual being sacrificed by the populace for the populace) one could say that the populace commits a kind of evil on the individual--as the individual is expected to sacrifice and to suffer, whether the individual wants to or not. I like that Gaider gave people the choice to break the trope with Witch Hunt. Edit: As for Dog, he was retired, and was being studded out because of all the Mabari that had been killed during the blight. I say he lived a fairly good life, and sired many pups.


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The Warden saved the world he deserves some peace, if he stays  he will live a life in abject conditions (whenever another weird Darkspawn plagues the world with bizarre baby spiders), and then he will die in even worse conditions in the deep roads. With Morrigan he can at least have some peace and love with his family. That is what makes him leaving with Morrigan the good ending, people have been indoctrinated with the high fantasy trope of populism. Rarely in high fantasy do we see an individual's liberty and utility portrayed as being all that important, because if  one looked from the top down (the populace, to the individual being sacrificed by the populace for the populace) one could say that the populace commits a kind of evil on the individual--as the individual is expected to sacrifice and to suffer, whether the individual wants to or not. I like that Gaider gave people the choice to break the trope with Witch Hunt. Edit: As for Dog, he was retired, and was being studded out because of all the Mabari that had been killed during the blight. I say he lived a fairly good life, and sired many pups.

Still, Morrigan's comments about her looking for the Warden if he didn't go through the eluvian gives me hope for a happy ending even if I didn't go with her



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Still, Morrigan's comments about her looking for the Warden if he didn't go through the eluvian gives me hope for a happy ending even if I didn't go with her

Which means you are left with mere sepculation (which is not realy a happy thing), we know if you go through the mirror with Morrigan that she and the Warden had, for a time, a happy life.



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