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#26201
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Why even ask such an broad question? The Dalish hardly have uniform beliefs, and I doubt the elves in the Inquisition need the Inquisitor to educate them. As with all situations concerning them, it would depend on what you mean by "their beliefs." 



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I've been wondering. What would Cassandra think, do you think, about a Lavellan Inquisitor acting as a sort of Keeper to the Inquisition's elves? Telling them about the Dalish and their beliefs, and giving those who were interested a chance to convert and be ministered to?


If you romance her with a Dalish elf who believers in the creators, she will mention it and she will says she respect his creed, so it lead me to believe that Cassandra would respect your intentions, as long your Inquisitor respect her views and dont say things like "the Chantry should end".
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If you romance her with a Dalish elf who believers in the creators, she will mention it and she will says she respect his creed, so it lead me to believe that Cassandra would respect your intentions, as long your Inquisitor respect her views and dont say things like "the Chantry should end".

That sounds like her...I mean heck even if you say, as an Elf, you believe in the Creators she counters 'and is there not room in your pantheon for one more god.' she sounds...open to the idea of their being a lot of powerful beings as well as the Maker.  



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That's one of the reasons why I like Cassandra and I was genuinely surprised by her character. When they first previewed her character for Inquisition, I thought to myself, "Oh great, another religious zealot." I was basing this off of my brief impressions in DA 2, of course.

 

Once you get to know her, though, you begin to realize that she is incredibly level headed, rational, and probably one of the most tolerant voices in the Chantry. Hell, even when you side with the Mages, which she "greatly disapproves of," she ends up being the voice of pragmatism and commending you for making a tough decision. She really would make the best Divine, but I just can't bring myself to part with her *sob *sob


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Best I've got is a demon of Doubt.

Doubt is a subclass (subrace? Subspecies?) of sloth demons.



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If I remember right, a corrupted faith spirit becomes a pride demon, like a spirit of wisdom.

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If I remember right, a corrupted faith spirit becomes a pride demon, like a spirit of wisdom.

 

I swear that is the most confusing aspect of the whole spirit demon thing in DA lol



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They're selling the Temperance Art thru Cook and Becker. Rather pricey, but I bought one. Haha. It's one of my favorite tarot art in the game.

:( Totally out of the budget of a college student!!!!!!!!! I think Cassandra(Romance), Vivienne(Both tarot card), and Varric(Final tarot) is the best one, imo. 



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On the subject of the Faith spirit, I've been wondering recently what is its demon equivilent? Wisdom is Pride, Justice is Vengence and Hope is Dispair, if Faith was twisted into a demon what would that make it? I know their very rare so the chances of it happening is slim but I was curious if anyone had an idea of not.

Zealotry? Fanatism? 



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If I remember right, a corrupted faith spirit becomes a pride demon, like a spirit of wisdom.

Or a jihad demon.


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That's one of the reasons why I like Cassandra and I was genuinely surprised by her character. When they first previewed her character for Inquisition, I thought to myself, "Oh great, another religious zealot." I was basing this off of my brief impressions in DA 2, of course.

 

Once you get to know her, though, you begin to realize that she is incredibly level headed, rational, and probably one of the most tolerant voices in the Chantry. Hell, even when you side with the Mages, which she "greatly disapproves of," she ends up being the voice of pragmatism and commending you for making a tough decision. She really would make the best Divine, but I just can't bring myself to part with her *sob *sob

Indeed.  She seems to be a person who deals with...or tries to deal with...the situation as it is.  So for the mage situation she might not like it but the Herald has made his decision so she will find a way to make it work and cut out all the bull crap.  She is not an idealist...well not when it comes to these matters, or can still see past the ideal and deal with the situation unlike a lot of other people who will just start complaining because the Herald violated their political or religious sensibilities.  

She also challenges her faith without giving it up, and has the ability to make arguments to challenge yours as well...without coming off sounding like a bigot or too much of a snob.  


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Indeed.  She seems to be a person who deals with...or tries to deal with...the situation as it is.  So for the mage situation she might not like it but the Herald has made his decision so she will find a way to make it work and cut out all the bull crap.  She is not an idealist...well not when it comes to these matters, or can still see past the ideal and deal with the situation unlike a lot of other people who will just start complaining because the Herald violated their political or religious sensibilities.  

She also challenges her faith without giving it up, and has the ability to make arguments to challenge yours as well...without coming off sounding like a bigot or too much of a snob.  

In short, she's the most rational and reasonable character in the series.


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In short, she's the most rational and reasonable character in the series.

She is...in short...a Seeker of Truth.  That is the perfect description of her character.  


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She is...in short...a Seeker of Truth.  That is the perfect description of her character.  

 

True, although that title has been tainted so much by people like Lucius that I am reticent to ever apply it to Cassandra.



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Indeed. She seems to be a person who deals with...or tries to deal with...the situation as it is. So for the mage situation she might not like it but the Herald has made his decision so she will find a way to make it work and cut out all the bull crap. She is not an idealist...well not when it comes to these matters, or can still see past the ideal and deal with the situation unlike a lot of other people who will just start complaining because the Herald violated their political or religious sensibilities.
She also challenges her faith without giving it up, and has the ability to make arguments to challenge yours as well...without coming off sounding like a bigot or too much of a snob.

Nailed it! These are reasons why I respect Cassandra. She isn't trying to force her problems down the protagonist's throat. And when she does ask for help, she tells you how it would benefit the inquisition, even when she truly wants to know what's happening to her order.
Cassandra really doesn't want to depend on someone else, but read between the lines and how she is with the inquisitor, she is truly happy to have the inquisitor be her "knight."
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True, although that title has been tainted so much by people like Lucius that I am reticent to ever apply it to Cassandra.


Why not? One bad Grey Warden doesn't make all the wardens bad. So I can see the same thing applying to the Seekers , especially when Cassandra recreates the Seekers.
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True, although that title has been tainted so much by people like Lucius that I am reticent to ever apply it to Cassandra.

 

The Seekers of Truth are an ideal.  Many people fall short of the ideal but Cassandra is that ideal.  Though to be honest one way to look at the events of the game as far as Lucius is concerned he read the truth, and the truth didn't set him free...it drove him mad.  Cassandra though, again 'dealt with it.' She wasn't happy but she resolved to do better with it.  

 

Though it is worth pointing out that the Seekers, for centuries, were hiding the 'Truth' from their own membership, because it was too horrible.  Cassandra resolved to share the truth with the world.  

Nailed it! These are reasons why I respect Cassandra. She isn't trying to force her problems down the protagonist's throat. And when she does ask for help, she tells you how it would benefit the inquisition, even when she truly wants to know what's happening to her order.
Cassandra really doesn't want to depend on someone else, but read between the lines and how she is with the inquisitor, she is truly happy to have the inquisitor be her "knight."

This bought a smile to my face.  


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On a more mundane and less sophisticated note, what is the preferred armor which you all use for Cassandra?

 

I have her equipped in "Masterwork Battlemaster Armor" with the "Helm of the Inquisitor," the "Caliban" sword, and the "March of the Everlasting" shield.

 

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I was hoping to find something like the following in the game, but so far it has evaded me:

 

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Why not? One bad Grey Warden doesn't make all the wardens bad. So I can see the same thing applying to the Seekers , especially when Cassandra recreates the Seekers.

I really still feel that recreating the Seekers is redundant at that point.  The Inquisition is the new Seekers.  



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True, although that title has been tainted so much by people like Lucius that I am reticent to ever apply it to Cassandra.

 

Lucius wasn't fit to be the Lord Seeker 



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I really still feel that recreating the Seekers is redundant at that point.  The Inquisition is the new Seekers.  

 

But that brings up the question though, will the Inquisition still be a force after everything is done or will they disband



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But that brings up the question though, will the Inquisition still be a force after everything is done or will they disband

Why would the Inquisition disband? They're an international power allied with several kingdoms and employ hundreds, if not thousands of people.



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The Inquisition aren't Seekers anyway. They aren't even comparable. 



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But that brings up the question though, will the Inquisition still be a force after everything is done or will they disband

I think they will be a force, at least in the short term.  I really do not think that the Inquisitors even with their best intentions will have much of a choice.