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[Cespar]

You mean to say the inquisitor is not up for it..? 

 

I agree with you, all the ending scenes work the same way and I guess the writers wanted to stress that aspect of peace (which supposedly had not been there the previous months). 

And maybe they also meant to give credit to those who made Cass Divine? Might feel weird for some audience to have a sex scene knowing she will leave him shortly.

However, we only see the beginning of the night anyway.

 

(Dude, I didn't recognize you with that new avatar! Your dwarf has grown horns, did you notice?)

Both of them! 

The audience probably would had welcome the sex, since that would be the last time Cassandra would had done it. But I'm glad that they went  the emotional leading against the inquisitor while watching the sunset way. 

That scene was all kinds of confusing, because it was night when they arrived back at Skyhold from Haven, which is near Skyhold according to the map, but Inquisitor/Cassandra was watching the sunset? Sunrise?

 

(I know it was so hard and emotional to change the profile pic, but I fell for my own Mage Adaar.  )

[Siha]

Both of them! 

The audience probably would had welcome the sex, since that would be the last time Cassandra would had done it. But I'm glad that they went  the emotional leading against the inquisitor while watching the sunset way. 

That scene was all kinds of confusing, because it was night when they arrived back at Skyhold from Haven, which is near Skyhold according to the map, but Inquisitor/Cassandra was watching the sunset? Sunrise?

 

(I know it was so hard and emotional to change the profile pic, but I fell for my own Mage Adaar.  )

 

Yes, some audience. But I know from the Solas thread how different people can see such issues; and I bet my left arm that quite some people would cry out in agony over a sex scene with the new Divine.

About the second aspect, you think too much! It was probably just... a really... long... party.

 

(Just looks really funny to see that giant to a sig praising Team Dwarves.)

[Cespar]

Yes, some audience. But I know from the Solas thread how different people can see such issues; and I bet my left arm that quite some people would cry out in agony over a sex scene with the new Divine.

About the second aspect, you think too much! It was probably just... a really... long... party.

 

(Just looks really funny to see that giant to a sig praising Team Dwarves.)

I always wonder about the Solas' thread, I should check it out sometimes. People will cry out in agony in anything they don't like.

Yea yea, this is where people find out that I'm really a loser, because I haven't been to a party that started one night and ended the next night.

 

(Oh I'll forever and always be team dwarf. Only Dragon Age has Qunari in them, beside Adaar's backstory ties into my Cadash's life.)  

[Siha]

I always wonder about the Solas' thread, I should check it out sometimes. People will cry out in agony in anything they don't like.

Yea yea, this is where people find out that I'm really a loser, because I haven't been to a party that started one night and ended the next night.

 

(Oh I'll forever and always be team dwarf. Only Dragon Age has Qunari in them, beside Adaar's backstory ties into my Cadash's life.)  

 

Do so, you are welcome. You will get a whole bunch of people with completely different thoughts and takes on Solas though. Not all of them positive. Better not expect a coherent or even vaguely consistent setup there... Anyway, I know that there's at least two fractions to any issue. Put together two people and you end up with at least 4 opinions. I am very sure it's not too different about Cass.

At least you see that for yourself. Blame it on the hard battle training though, usually works.

 

(I totally picture your Adaar in a group of Carta dwarves, spinning daggers and smoke all around. He'd hardly stick out.)

[Cespar]

Do so, you are welcome. You will get a whole bunch of people with completely different thoughts and takes on Solas though. Not all of them positive. Better not expect a coherent or even vaguely consistent setup there... Anyway, I know that there's at least two fractions to any issue. Put together two people and you end up with at least 4 opinions. I am very sure it's not too different about Cass.

At least you see that for yourself. Blame it on the hard battle training though, usually works.

 

(I totally picture your Adaar in a group of Carta dwarves, spinning daggers and smoke all around. He'd hardly stick out.)

There's two side to a coin, so I would except people to feel strongly about Solas, since he comes off as this person that knows more about everything, and makes sure to let you know that. I've felt that he was a mentor to my character, and even more since I'm playing a mage.

 

His banter with almost everywhere seems similar to Cole, but without the mind reading. He digs deep into people's lives, and questioned what they're about. Like Solas telling Varric that he should be  more concerned about the dwarves, letting Iron Bull know how bad the Qun is, noticing Cassandra's strength  when it comes to her faith, and even trying to get Sera to recognize her real people, instead of "people people."

 

How do you feel about Solas?

 

I should. But I should blame it on my brother. 

 

(That's showbiz. I wonder if the Carta would pay my Adaar free Lyrium. But I've this really short planned out backstory.) 

[Siha]

His banter with almost everywhere seems similar to Cole, but without the mind reading. He digs deep into people's lives, and questioned what they're about. Like Solas telling Varric that he should be  more concerned about the dwarves, letting Iron Bull know how bad the Qun is, noticing Cassandra's strength  when it comes to her faith, and even trying to get Sera to recognize her real people, instead of "people people."
 
How do you feel about Solas?
 
I should. But I should blame it on my brother. 
 
(That's showbiz. I wonder if the Carta would pay my Adaar free Lyrium. But I've this really short planned out backstory.)

I feel a bit hesitant to speak much about Solas here because it's the Cass thread (and the Solas thread was recently visited by a moderator kindly telling us to stay on topic..).
But I feel he is most open-minded about Cass. He will recognize her motivations and even accept their differences, still respecting her as a person and potential leader. 

Regarding others, most notably Bull and Dorian, he turns out rather stubborn and fully convinced that only his opinion is right. I consider that double moral standards from somebody who has started many of the problems in the first place. He claims to have given the orb, a powerful magical artifact able to tear the veil, to a suspicious looking blighted magister only because he was too weak to unlock it himself after his slumber. And he obviously did not have much of a plan B to back this up, considering how he had to hook up with the Inquisition to even get close to Corypheus.

I assume he considers all of this "the necessary evil" and bonds with Cassandra because she also had to do things she might not have been convinced of. Maybe he sees her as somebody in a similar situation, thus respecting her more than those who chose different paths. After all, both Bull and Dorian still believe in their countries and world orders, only wishing to improve single aspects but not changing the basics. Seems like Solas does not think highly of this. He only wants to restore all the elven history, the rest of the world should be all different.

 

Your brother?

 

(If a giant like that showed up at my doorstep and the first thing I saw were only kneecaps, you can be sure I'd supply him with anything. And as a friend of mine in the Solas thread put it: "My backstory is: she's Dalish; she might have liked the woods, maybe.")

[Siha]

I'm not actually sure about his goals. Some people assume he wants to tear down the veil, but I don't think so. When you ask him in Haven if there couldn't be some middle ground, peaceful coexistence, doesn't he say something like "No but it matters that you cared to ask"? Does not sound like he believes that Fade and world could be merged. And if we assume this as a basis, somebody who can bring about a stronger separation of the two (by "reinforcing reality") is crucial to Solas' notion of what the world should be like.

Cassandra is strong and will do what she thinks is right, regardless of expectations, friendship, affiliations etc. I assume that is why he respects her; she is very much like him. And, maybe he really thinks he will need her (or the likes of her, the new Seekers and/or the Chantry should she become Divine) one day.

[AWTEW]

I always wonder about the Solas' thread, I should check it out sometimes. People will cry out in agony in anything they don't like.
Yea yea, this is where people find out that I'm really a loser, because I haven't been to a party that started one night and ended the next night.
 
(Oh I'll forever and always be team dwarf. Only Dragon Age has Qunari in them, beside Adaar's backstory ties into my Cadash's life.)

The Solas thread is, erm, well..it used to be civil..and now its..uhm yeah...beastality, anyone? It surpassed Tali levels of creepy, but not tali levels of obsessive..

[Obvious_Shining]

Everyone's avatar has google eyes. And the amount of bad gif usage is impressive.

[Siha]

The Solas thread will calm down again. It's just a phase it's going through, nothing serious. And they outsourced all the glitter stuff now. 

If you call that uncivil you shouldn't set foot in some other threads.

[Siha]

I didn't actually feel so bad before but I of course appreciate your concern. And I agree with you, the BSN would be a lot better if we didn't have all that nasty communication with other people.

[Jaison1986]

I'm a little confused on his respect for Cass, whether it's sincere or not.

 

On one hand, he's all about wanting more mingling of spirits and thinning the veil.

 

On the other hand, he tries flattering her about her skills, and how her Seeker/Templar powers can reinforce "reality" (which, in effect, is contrary to his deepest goals).

 

Deep down I think Solas has an low opinion on Cassandra but he still sees her potential. During his friendship cutscene, you can ask what he thinks of other members of the Inquisition, and he will say something about "Cassandra not being able to separate matters of faith with real ones, and I can't begin to tell how limited that is."

 

I get the feeling Solas respects Cassandra for her conviction, but is likely annoyed that almost all of it goes to an dedication to an religion he dislikes.

[Jaison1986]

Yeah. Both him and IB make that observation.. Not wanting the Inquisition to be about faith issues. And seeing Cassandra as limited. 

 

I'm totally in the same boat as her though. I don't really care to see it other ways myself.

 

Why not? Cassandra can be a bit contraditory. She says as an Seeker, she needs to find the truth of the world, but when you actually find it in Adamant, were you discover that your powers come from both magic and circunstance, she seems to kind of in denial about it. If you choose the dialogue saying you knew there was no divine intervention all along, Cassandra will disapprove.

[Jaison1986]

Because without faith or the Chantry, the Inquisition has nothing left but me. It just becomes about me. And I don't give a **** about the Inquisitor. Or your Inquisitor. lol. They all suck. I'll just use this as an opportunity to strengthen the Chantry. Its bigger than me.

 

I guess that's fair. I for one prefer the Inquisition becoming the new power filling in for the Chantry. So I aways deny divine intervention when asked. I'm just the kind of person that prefers the painful truth then the confortable lie. And considering I made Leliana divine, the Chantry is now only an charity service. And with both the templars and Seekers gone, the Inquisition is the one with the real military powe now.

[Siha]

She says as an Seeker, she needs to find the truth of the world, but when you actually find it in Adamant, were you discover that your powers come from both magic and circunstance, she seems to kind of in denial about it. If you choose the dialogue saying you knew there was no divine intervention all along, Cassandra will disapprove.

 

You think? I rather had the impression she was actually willing to address these issues in the future. She does say she'll look into it, even mentioned it on her own accord. Most Chantry folk would not have done that, sweeping it under the rug instead.

And I personally consider it unrealistic to have her change her whole attitude all of a sudden. You learn something about the truth, alright, but you don't become a different person just like that. You must think about it, research more and so on. Build your own opinion and not just adopt a new one. I have never met a person in real life who'd just abandon the beliefs and convictions he's had all his life. So I consider it realistic to depict Cassandra this way.

Also, I'd pretty much lose all respect for her if she simply changed her mind and be done with it only from reading a book and not looking into it more deeply. 

[Jaison1986]

You think? I rather had the impression she was actually willing to address these issues in the future. She does say she'll look into it, even mentioned it on her own accord. Most Chantry folk would not have done that, sweeping it under the rug instead.

And I personally consider it unrealistic to have her change her whole attitude all of a sudden. You learn something about the truth, alright, but you don't become a different person just like that. You must think about it, research more and so on. Build your own opinion and not just adopt a new one. I have never met a person in real life who'd just abandon the beliefs and convictions he's had all his life. So I consider it realistic to depict Cassandra this way.

Also, I'd pretty much lose all respect for her if she simply changed her mind and be done with it only from reading a book and not looking into it more deeply. 

 

Well, now you did. I used to believe my religion was real when I was younger. Now I only see it as no more then an bunch of mumbo jumbo.

 

I wouldn't lose my respect for Cassandra if she stoped believing. She was given many evidences that there was no intervention from the Maker. The Inquisitor got their powers with magic, even her own Seeker initiation was no more then magic. She has no reason to continue believing. The only thing that holds her back is her fear of the unknown. From my perspective, people see, then they learn and adapt. But Cassandra never quites adapts.