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[AWTEW]

lol.. I'm almost curious to see what you're talking about.

 

 

Almost. 

 

Serious talk of crowd funding for a realistic Solas sex-doll, how much it would cost. Solas banging the inquisitor as a wolf(hence beastality).

[Siha]

Well, now you did. I used to believe my religion was real when I was younger. Now I only see it as no more then an bunch of mumbo jumbo.

 

I wouldn't lose my respect for Cassandra if she stoped believing. She was given many evidences that there was no intervention from the Maker. The Inquisitor got their powers with magic, even her own Seeker initiation was no more then magic. She has no reason to continue believing. The only thing that holds her back is her fear of the unknown. From my perspective, people see, then they learn and adapt. But Cassandra never quites adapts.

 

My point is: did this change come about within an hour or so after reading a book? People do change, but not so quickly. Give her time, she has changed already compared to DA2. If you personally would prefer her to stop believing that's fine. But not all people give up their religion, even if they turn away from the institution that represents it. I don't think we can possibly assume what will happen to Cass just yet; especially not if she does not become Divine.

 

Serious talk of crowd funding for a realistic Solas sex-doll, how much it would cost. Solas banging the inquisitor as a wolf(hence beastality).

 

I seem to skip too many posts, that has completely passed me by. The first I thought a joke, the second I missed altogether. Most wolf art I saw was just cuddly furry cuteness stuff.

[Boost32]

Because without faith or the Chantry, the Inquisition has nothing left but me. It just becomes about me. And I don't give a **** about the Inquisitor. Or your Inquisitor. lol. They all suck. I'll just use this as an opportunity to strengthen the Chantry. Its bigger than me.

My Inquisitor is cool.

[Xilizhra]

I don't even know where to start with this. 

 

They don't have to screw 24/7 to show their affection for each other. Spending their time together watching the sunset was powerful, since it has been a while because of the giant hole in the sky. Also, they'd just finished fighting Corypheus. 

It would have been powerful, had either of the Inquisitor's balconies faced the direction of the Breach to begin with. But in the end, the view from them wasn't any different than the view had been before, so it just seems awkward.

 

 

Serious talk of crowd funding for a realistic Solas sex-doll, how much it would cost. Solas banging the inquisitor as a wolf(hence beastality).

It's not bestiality. The only moral issue that could arise from that is the one of consent, and that wouldn't exist with Solas.

[Boost32]

They all suck. But I'm not criticizing you. Or myself. 
 
It's just my way of saying the game premise sucks. 
 
I still love the lore, companions, and all of that. I'm not a total hater. But I think they stooped to TES levels with this protagonist. I expect better. Because I've seen better from them time and time again. 
 
In a way, I think it's some weird experiment. They make such a crappy, unbelievable protagonist.. and then see if we, as players, can find them believable. In the same way the NPCs find us believable. Personally, I lack faith. You seem to have faith.

But I liked the Inquisitor, my favorite PC in Bioware games, I dont know what they have in common with TES (never played any of them), but I respect your opinion.
And he is definitely cool.

[Siha]

I'm not a big fan of the inquisitor. Mostly because s/he has no personality whatsoever. But then again my opinion might be completely irrelevant because I really liked (sarcastic) Hawke, maybe even because of all the flaws. Felt more real, more like an actual person and not just an empty shell bouncing through vast regions without any evident connection to the task at hand.

[Obvious_Shining]

Nothing beats the sarcastic Hawke.

[Boost32]

TES protagonists tend to be blank slates. Always a prisoner.. found on a cart or boat.. who instantly get fellated as the Chosen One of Tamriel. When they made no steps to get there or said anything or earned it in any believable way. It just is. No narrative. Just a power grab.
 
 
Here, you can replace Tamriel with Thedas.

The protagonist is not a black state in Inquisition, they left the background open for you to fill the blanks. And the Inquisitor has to earn his place to leadership, its not simply handed to him. But I think the Inquisitor only works with a non-mage human protagonist, because in no way a mage, Dwarf, Elf or Qunari would be allowed to be near the Divine or know how to act/dance at the ball in Halamshiral.
I know it will not change your opinion, bu tthats what I think about the Inquisitor.

[Xilizhra]

The protagonist is not a black state in Inquisition, they left the background open for you to fill the blanks. And the Inquisitor has to earn his place to leadership, its not simply handed to him. But I think the Inquisitor only works with a non-mage human protagonist, because in no way a mage, Dwarf, Elf or Qunari would be allowed to be near the Divine or know how to act/dance at the ball in Halamshiral.
I know it will not change your opinion, bu tthats what I think about the Inquisitor.

The mage is a negotiator, the elf and dwarf are spies, and the qunari is a guard. They all have reasons to be near or aren't worrying about the rules in the first place. As for the Halamshiral ball, there's plenty of time for etiquette lessons from Josephine.

[Boost32]

Nothing beats the sarcastic Hawke.

Agressive Hawkes beats sarcastic Hawke, figuratively and literally.

[Siha]

Agressive Hawkes beats sarcastic Hawke, figuratively and literally.

 

I played both and liked both. Still, I think sarcastic Hawke has a bit more punch overall. But I guess that's just a matter of personality type and personal preference. But however, Hawke just beats both, Warden and Inquisitor, because Hawke was somebody.

[Boost32]

The new level of "fill in the blanks" is also TES like. 
 
That's not what I'm here for. I'm a bigger Bioware fan than Bethesda. I always thought they wrote stories better than most. The last thing I want to do is write everything myself now. I'm here to be entertained as much as inject my own creativity. But the balance is off now.
 
 
It isn't that I can't invent a good story. I just resent the ball being tossed my way.

I would like a more definem protagonist, like Hawke and the Wardem, where you could talk to your family members, but what I liked about the Inquisitor is what he could do.
I always thought that Hawke would gain control of the Kirkwall's templars in the expansion and he could act like the leader of the city. I was bummed when the expansion was cancelled, but Inquisition made me gain control of the templars, I could be the leader of a powerful organization, played The Game and made everyone bow to me and the Divine I supported brought the status quo back with the changes I always wanted. Because of this he became my favorite PC, but I understand your point of view.

[Boost32]

I played both and liked both. Still, I think sarcastic Hawke has a bit more punch overall. But I guess that's just a matter of personality type and personal preference. But however, Hawke just beats both, Warden and Inquisitor, because Hawke was somebody.

I insist that Agressive Hawke have more punch, he even punched a rock wrath =P

[Jaison1986]

My point is: did this change come about within an hour or so after reading a book? People do change, but not so quickly. Give her time, she has changed already compared to DA2. If you personally would prefer her to stop believing that's fine. But not all people give up their religion, even if they turn away from the institution that represents it. I don't think we can possibly assume what will happen to Cass just yet; especially not if she does not become Divine.

 

 

 

Oh no, I don't expect her to change overnight, no. It took two games for Miranda and Jacob to drop Cerberus. My only frustration is that Cassandra never seem to give up on the Herald idea in particular after all the evidence given against it. I only fear is that might come an day were we are given undeniable proof that the Maker is no god, but an glorified figure similar to the elven gods, and even then Cassandra will not change at all. It's just that it frustrastes me greatly when I see someone be given evidence that what they previously believed is wrong, and yet they don't change their minds even then.

[Retconnaissance]

But however, Hawke just beats both, Warden and Inquisitor, because Hawke was somebody.

I personally didn't like Hawke for that very reason. I think having a character with a strong personality is good for an action game, but not for an rpg. As a player I felt I have no agenda in DAII, apart from picking your chosen personality line every now and again and the mage/templar stuff. Most part of the time I didn't even have an idea what exactly Hawke would say, since paraphrases were so very vague. And mixing lines was pretty much out of question, because then Hawke sounded like a person with severe personality disorder. It pretty much set my character on the rails personality-wise most part of the time, and the game felt like a movie or something, where I as a player just sit back and watch Hawke act. In my opinion DA:O had the best balance of this stuff, because you got to witness your character backstory, even shape it somewhat right from the beginning and and the same time had enough leeway in shaping the character yourself throughout the game. The Inquisitor is stuck somewhere in-between, just like this game as a whole on many occasions.

[Siha]

Oh no, I don't expect her to change overnight, no. It took two games for Miranda and Jacob to drop Cerberus. My only frustration is that Cassandra never seem to give up on the Herald idea in particular after all the evidence given against it. I only fear is that might come an day were we are given undeniable proof that the Maker is no god, but an glorified figure similar to the elven gods, and even then Cassandra will not change at all. It's just that it frustrastes me greatly when I see someone be given evidence that what they previously believed is wrong, and yet they don't change their minds even then.

 

I'm not a religious person myself, so I'd not have a problem with getting proof there's no Maker/gods. But so far I don't see such proof. What do we have at all?

Solas claims the elven gods were no gods, but that's about it. Besides that we know nothing.

The Chantry teaches that the Maker has abandoned the people, but we know nothing of him. So it's pretty difficult to judge his nature.

Cassandra finds out that the Divine, who was killed at the conclave, still exists in the Fade -- either as a spirt or as herself, we don't know. But neither does Cassandra, nor why she still exists. Cass can always think the Maker might have a hand in it.

She further finds out that the anchor is just an experiment gone wrong, but how would that make her lose her overall faith? So Andraste did not save the inquisitor as assumed. But you could still argue the Maker had a hand in sending him/her in just at the right moment to interrupt the ritual, that the Maker guided the inquisitor's hand to even pick up the orb in the first place etc. etc. You know how this is done, many religions work exactly on that basis to explain events. And if you were raised with that mindset, why would it suddenly make you lose your faith when you are used to believing such explanations anyway?

And she finds out that the rite of tranquility could be reversed, which is in no way connected to her religion.

She has no crystal clear proof of anything, so why abandon ship? She's a strong personality and has dedicated her life to doing what she considers to be right, not in the eyes of the Chantry but in the eyes of the Maker. And the Maker has not been falsified.

 

In my eyes everything in DA can be explained supporting either side, there is no obvious proof for anything at all. And considering this I wouldn't see a reason for anybody to simply change his point of view. I find it impressive enough how Leliana has changed so much, it would be weird to see all characters take the same road. It doesn't happen in the real world either -- and we don't have magic as a suitable argument whenever things don't make sense.

[Jaison1986]

I guess there is no point to argue. To be honest, I don't really mind people who believe in such things. There is that endgame scene were you find Cullen praying. And you know, if he invinted me to join him I would do it, out of respect if anything else. My problem with Cassandra is that she believes too strongly about it. And there is an dialogue were you can say to Solas he is obssessed with the fade if his approval is low enough, and those are my feelings towards Cassandra regarding her and the Maker.

 

I will say one thing, if the Maker is indeed real, he or she is the most selfish uncaring bastard to have ever existed. So many atrocities done in their name, and then to do nothing about it? That's simply BS.